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cantdoitagain

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Hello all,

I've lurked for a long time but never posted, here goes. This is my 2nd time applying. Does look too favorable as of yet. I have research experience, pubs, and a masters degree.

My POI a XX university could not accept me into the PhD program (my only real shot) and suggested I enter the MA program and then apply to the PhD program after my first year. All credits will transfer + partial funding.

What if this is as good as it gets? For me at least. I can't image doing this all over again next year...

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
 
Hello all,

I've lurked for a long time but never posted, here goes. This is my 2nd time applying. Does look too favorable as of yet. I have research experience, pubs, and a masters degree.

My POI a XX university could not accept me into the PhD program (my only real shot) and suggested I enter the MA program and then apply to the PhD program after my first year. All credits will transfer + partial funding.

What if this is as good as it gets? For me at least. I can't image doing this all over again next year...

Any thoughts?

Thanks!

I'd say do it. You can prove to the school and your POI that you can handle grad school and do well. The experience won't only prove that you can handle the coursework and stressful life of grad school, but also give you more research experience and contacts.

If you don't get straight into a Ph.D program, I'd say that this is a great opportunity. Especially with partial funding and with the POI you want to work with.

* ETA I wrote this assuming that all master's students at Uni XXX have to reapply to the Ph.D program after they finish their master's, as they do in Canada. After reading paramour's post, I'm thinking this isn't the case. If that isn't the case, I'd definitely go with paramour's opinion and suggestions.
 
What's your master's in? I'm hoping something different from the master's program you'd be entering into as recommended by your POI. I can't tell you what to do, but I can tell you what I personally would do in a similar situation.

I, too, went through 2 application cycles and had a master's degree by that second try. I received interviews but they weren't looking so hot. I was eventually accepted off of a waitlist, but I had basically assumed the worse by that point, so I had already started making plans for the next year. I refused to look at another master's program. It would not do me any good. In your case, however, you could potentially transfer those courses into the doctoral program IF they accepted you. For me, that would be a mighty big if. What if they don't? What if your POI disappears between now and then? One might assume otherwise, but I've known a handful of profs who up & disappeared to other locations at the last minute for various reasons. Then you're likely "stuck" with another master's degree (and out of more money even if it is partially funded), with even more courses that will probably not transfer to other doctoral programs.

You indicated that you had research experience, which is great. But, how much research experience and is it relevant to the interests expressed in your personal statement? If not, then your limited and/or unrelated research experience may not mean squat to some professors. Perhaps you should focus on gaining additional research experience, especially related to that which you wish to pursue during your future doctoral program if at all possible.

What about the GRE? Did you do well on them or just sort of meh? Perhaps you need to work on improving that score in order to better your chances. Did you take the Psych GRE? If not, perhaps you should take it--not doing so limits programs you can apply to.

Or perhaps everything is just peachy and your personal statement wasn't quite impressive enough or didn't quite reflect your goodness of fit with the programs/profs you applied to. Did you ask for feedback from others before submitting it?

A master's degree isn't everything, and I found a number of schools that preferred not to look twice at me because of mine (and, yes, they did indeed advise me as such). Two master's degrees in the worst case scenario if you had to reapply to other programs for a 3rd cycle? Hrm... not sure I'd personally want to chance it.

So, what would I do? I would contact the programs/profs you applied to and ask if they could advise you of any limitations with your app and/or any improvements that they might suggest for future application cycles. I would work on my GREs (if that's needed). I would take the Psych GRE (if that's needed). I would work on improving my personal statement (if that's needed). But, most of all, I would focus on searching for additional research opportunities in my area of interest. This is what I was doing (and I had actually been nominated for a research fellowship already) when I was finally sent my waitlist acceptance.

I know the process is extremely difficult and frustrating, particularly when contemplating a third cycle, but there would be too many "what if's" in my mind and not enough justification to pay for even part of an additional master's degree. However, if you feel comfortable going this route and think that it is the best option available to you at the moment, then do what you think is best for you.

G'luck! :luck:
 
What's your master's in?

Psychology! Also one more thing to add, I am 31 (a non trad student and my husband is ready to move, if needed, so I feel like I can't wait forever)

What if your POI disappears between now and then?

She is a fully prof at XX University is had told me she is not leaving

You indicated that you had research experience, which is great. But, how much research experience and is it relevant to the interests expressed in your personal statement?

4+ years, full time (not undergrad) in well regarded research centers.

What about the GRE?

Awful, Awful, Awful. I have tried everything. I just can't do well.

Or perhaps everything is just peachy and your personal statement wasn't quite impressive enough or didn't quite reflect your goodness of fit with the programs/profs you applied to. Did you ask for feedback from others before submitting it?

Many PhD psychologists looked it over and provided feedback


Thank you!
 
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