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Hi everyone!
Does anyone in here go to UH or Texas Tech pharm schools? What do you like best and least about your schools? Do you like how the curriculum is set up and the professors? How are your classmates? Tell me everything.. I need some info so I can decide which fits me better. Thank you! 😍

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It kind of sucks because this thread would have been better answered (or answered at all) in the pharmacy forum.

As it is, in the pre-pharmacy forum, we have to hope that PharmD students with the answers bother to come here.
 
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This thread has the potential for becoming controversial. That's why there are no takers.

It's unfortunate because I would love to have feedbacks from actual PharmD students from both schools as well.
 
I'm bringing this thread back from the dead!

Would anyone like to comment on these COPs and what they believe to be the pros/cons of each?
 
I'm a P1 at Tech and this is what I have been thru since 1st semester and what I heard about UH.

Tech: Has 2 campuses (Amarillo (90 students) and Abilene (40 students), 3 after your 2nd year (you can choose where you want to go after your second year (Amarillo, Lubbock, or Dallas, if you choose Abilene, you would have to do all 4 years in Abilene). 1st semester of Tech is 23 hours 3-4 of which is over with before school semester actually starts, called Bootcamp where you learn about what to expect and stuff, its 2 weeks everyday starting 1st week of August. Its neat in that you get to know your classmates better before school starts and they feed you everyday (by they I mean sponsors and local businesses which means its good food). I'm in Abilene which makes my class of 40 students a lot more cozy and better feel, all our P1 courses are taught in 1 room, P2 have their room. Course load of 1st semester: Biochem(5hr), immunology(3hr), anatomy(3hr) (and lab), Pharmaceutical care system(3), drug delivery system(2), bootcamp(3), immunization(2), and Drug information class. Anatomy is 1/2 semester course where its self pace and you can be done with class in 2weeks, except for lab, Immunization will follow anatomy class after 1/2 semester. Lab's are in Amarillo every other saturday and bus leaves at 6am and you get back to Abilene at about 5pm, you will see corpses and get down with anatomy stuff, everyone will be assigned a station which they will teach their group about that station and will rotate every 12 min, P2's will be there to aid as well. Lots of fun in Abilene being so close together with students, and there was maybe 1-2 books that were required to be bought for classes. All note are available online thru powerpoints or word docs. Assignments are online and tests are web based except for biochem and anatomy lab. Everyone from students to faculty are there to help you, seriously, and they have something called second chance policy (if u fail a class with 66-69 and passed 1/2 ur test, then u can take a psuedo final again, if u pass, u pass the course, else u retake next yr and fall behind a yr( but u can take other courses as long as course failed is not a prereq)

Houston: Only thing I know from P1 here that applied there is that they will accept more students than they have seats for as they will try to weed out students their first year and parking in really expensive, so I heard.

Hope this helps, lemme know if I missed anything or want more info
 
Houston: Only thing I know from P1 here that applied there is that they will accept more students than they have seats for as they will try to weed out students their first year and parking in really expensive, so I heard.

Totally not true. Our classroom can sit 130 people and UH only accepts 125 per year. Of course, the P1 at Tech you talked to would not know the first thing about our classrooms and curriculum at UH seeing as he/she doesn't go there. As for the parking, it's not terribly that expensive compared to UT-Austin. It's a big campus in a big city with 35,000 students so, of course, parking will be a lot more in demand and pricier than in a small town university. Personally, I wouldn't let a two hundred dollar parking fee a year deter me from attending an excellent pharmacy program with very close ties to the Texas Medical Center.

As for being a P1 at UH, I couldn't be more happier where I am now. The adcom did not accept us in the program only "to weed us out" later on. Nothing can be farther from the truth. The faculty and staff are all very helpful and friendly. Most, if not all, professors have an open door policy with students. The office of student affairs are extremely helpful, as well. If you feel you need help with your classes, they will set you up with an upperclassmen to tutor you. If you just need to vent about anything and everything under the sun, Ms Lewis, our counselor, would be happy to listen to you. Each of us is also paired with a faculty mentor and, if we chose,a student mentor. They really care about us at UH. During and after Ike, they made sure everyone in our class was okay. They brought fruits and vegetables to help those whose produce were ruined from not having electricity. They coordinated with student volunteers to make sure other needs are met as well. That's not an attitude that you will see from faculty or staff that are looking to weed you out of the program. When we actually started, they made sure we realize that we are now all in this together and that our goal as a class should be to graduate together. Granted there are some people who failed a class or two but that's because they didn't ask and take the help that was available to them. The school would like for us to stay whole up to graduation but they will not sacrifice the quality of the program to achieve that goal. Everyone in my class is smart and fully capable of completing the program. Some just encountered road blocks along the way but the people who were weeded out of the program are the people who didn't make it to the program.

As for the curriculum and professors, I really like it. We had 14 hours last semester but it was a good course load to help students ease into the program. All courses lasted throughout the whole semester. If you ask a Tech student they'll probably explain why I made that statement. Four of our classes were letter grade classes and one was a pass-fail class. Each class is a team course class meaning, that they are taught by several professors who are experts in their fields. For example, in human anatomy and physiology class, one had more experience with muscle and cell physiology so he taught that part of the class. another professor was more well-versed in neuroanatomy and physiology so she taught that part.

What do I like about the program? I like that it has a good mix of traditional and technology-based learning. All intructions are face-to-face. I like this better than having to listen to an instructor on a screen. All of our tests are still paper and pencil tests but we do have WebCT for quizzes and homework. The college is also very social. What I mean by that is social networking events are planned throughout the semester by different organizations. Attendance is voluntary but a lot of people take advantage of it to meet and network with the alumni. It is not uncommon to see faculty and staff attend these events as well. They mingle with students in order to get to know them outside of the classroom.

As for my classmates, I think they are awesome! Our class has a good mix of introverted and extroverted people. However, when it comes to helping each other out, we are there for one another. We divide and conquer study guides that our given to us by our professors and we share the answer with the whole class. This way, none of us is stuck trying to find the answers for everything and we can all spend more time actually learning and studying. We also voluntarily take turns making flashcards for the whole class on quizzlet which an online tool that's really neat (one of our classmates knew about it and she shared with the class). Some of us also volunteer to tutor classmates with classes that they have trouble with. We also have social chairs who are in charge of planning gatherings for the class so that we can relax once in a while. They've recently started buying cakes for birthday celebrants in our class as well. So yeah, ours is a big class (125) but we make things happen and we try to get to know one another.

The only thing I don't like about going to UH is the parking situation. It is hard to find a spot especially on Tuesdays and Thurdays! One way I've rectified this is to come to school early and spend some time in the library.

I wouldn't compare my experience with Tech even though I've heard a few things from my friend who goes there. It's not my personal experience so I would just leave it for people who actually goes there to share their experiences.

I probably have a few more insights I can share with you but for now, those are the only ones I can think of.
 
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I'm a P1 at Tech and this is what I have been thru since 1st semester and what I heard about UH.

Tech: Has 2 campuses (Amarillo (90 students) and Abilene (40 students), 3 after your 2nd year (you can choose where you want to go after your second year (Amarillo, Lubbock, or Dallas, if you choose Abilene, you would have to do all 4 years in Abilene). 1st semester of Tech is 23 hours 3-4 of which is over with before school semester actually starts, called Bootcamp where you learn about what to expect and stuff, its 2 weeks everyday starting 1st week of August. Its neat in that you get to know your classmates better before school starts and they feed you everyday (by they I mean sponsors and local businesses which means its good food). I'm in Abilene which makes my class of 40 students a lot more cozy and better feel, all our P1 courses are taught in 1 room, P2 have their room. Course load of 1st semester: Biochem(5hr), immunology(3hr), anatomy(3hr) (and lab), Pharmaceutical care system(3), drug delivery system(2), bootcamp(3), immunization(2), and Drug information class. Anatomy is 1/2 semester course where its self pace and you can be done with class in 2weeks, except for lab, Immunization will follow anatomy class after 1/2 semester. Lab's are in Amarillo every other saturday and bus leaves at 6am and you get back to Abilene at about 5pm, you will see corpses and get down with anatomy stuff, everyone will be assigned a station which they will teach their group about that station and will rotate every 12 min, P2's will be there to aid as well. Lots of fun in Abilene being so close together with students, and there was maybe 1-2 books that were required to be bought for classes. All note are available online thru powerpoints or word docs. Assignments are online and tests are web based except for biochem and anatomy lab. Everyone from students to faculty are there to help you, seriously, and they have something called second chance policy (if u fail a class with 66-69 and passed 1/2 ur test, then u can take a psuedo final again, if u pass, u pass the course, else u retake next yr and fall behind a yr( but u can take other courses as long as course failed is not a prereq)

Houston: Only thing I know from P1 here that applied there is that they will accept more students than they have seats for as they will try to weed out students their first year and parking in really expensive, so I heard.

Hope this helps, lemme know if I missed anything or want more info

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Thanks for sharing your opinions and insight, guys!

Keep the posts comin'!
 
LoL. Thanks for answering my question! I am now a 3rd year pharmacy student at Texas Tech. :laugh:
 
I guess others can still benefit from having your questions answered. 🙂
 
Ethyl, that post about your first year experience at a P1 was extremely helpful. Now I have things to talk about on why I would like to attend UHCOP as my first choice.

Quick question...

Were you a PPA officer last year? Amy, or S.Ann, that you? 😀
 
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I'm glad that you found it helpful 🙂. And no, I wasn't a PPA officer but I was a member.
 
I'm glad that you found it helpful 🙂. And no, I wasn't a PPA officer but I was a member.

Ethyl Methyl,

No disrespect, like I said it was just from what I heard, and he obviously went to Tech over UH, but he only came here b/c it was 2hrs from Ft worth so he could go back home every weekend or other weekend if he wanted.

Tech is very Clincal based education and I would def like your schedule over mine, 14hr semester vs 23.. 19 hr this semster...our courses are taught similar to UH in that teams of prof teach a course based on expertise in subject matter and that webct based. Also, courses are mainly taught in Amarillo and thru video simocast teleconference in Abilene and vice versa. tuition runs about $6k a semester, but just fall and spring with summers being free, no need to do class work. Oh Tech has annual assesments to see where u are compared to where Tech thinks you should be and all students from P1 to P4 are REQUIRED to take the test. It was today from 7-5pm hahahahaha, but from 12-5 ur just scheduled a 20min time slot to test ur conseling of patients and how to perform bp check on patient
 
I would just like to add the fact that with our P1 class, UH has started a new thing of monitoring performance of the class through what is called the OSCE. Where they test your knowledge in a really life situation, this helps get you acclimated to actually using your knowledge instead of being able to choose between 4 possible answers. Medical school also use the OSCE to test their students. This I think will set our graduates slightly ahead in reality based learning.
 
Ethyl Methyl,

No disrespect, like I said it was just from what I heard, and he obviously went to Tech over UH, but he only came here b/c it was 2hrs from Ft worth so he could go back home every weekend or other weekend if he wanted.

And I obviously chose UH over Tech. Still, for you to disparage our school because of what you heard from your friend is not cool, man. Why can't you just write about all the wonderful things your school does without bringing down somebody else's school?

As for the yearly test, we have that at UH too. We have mile marker exams at the start of 2nd, 3rd and 4th year. I think every school does that. Like what CPhT said, UH also started the OSCE test this year to help us prepare for our careers as pharmacists in the real world. When we walk in to a situation, we totally don't know what's going to happen and we need to assess the situation and respond appropriately by using the all the skills that we so far learned from our classes.

For the record, I think both schools have excellent program. I would not have applied to Texas Tech if I didn't believe that the school had excellent program. I had a choice between the two schools, and I didn't think there was a right or wrong choice.

In the end, I decided to go a school that has been teaching pharmacy for more than fifty years, that has been consistently one of the top performers on NAPLEX, and that has strong ties with the Texas Medical Center. When I go for my residency later on, I don't think having a UH education over a Tech education will be a disadvantage at all. In the end, my school is going to teach me all the clinical stuff that I need to know as a graduate pharmacist. My residency will then teach me most of the clinical stuff that I need to know to be a good clinical pharmacist. I say most because I will definitely still learn a lot throughout the course of my career.

Peace.
 
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I really don't think it matters which school you go to. You will all sit for the same boards and be offered the same pay no matter where you went to school. It's your job to make the most of your education.
 
They both suck.

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tech has osce as well, it was a terrible experience 7am til 4pm for me. bahhhhh

some tech bashing:
We strive to be professional and in the first semester we have a class called DIC (drug information clerkship) where we talk about the importance of grammar and stuff like that, yet on the test u'll see all these misspelled words and drugs and wonder about the professor who puts such importance on it. very sad
 
Texas Tech's curriculum is really grueling...you get very very tired and they focus on clinical aspects a lot. I understand that UH is changing their curriculum to be more like this but that they still have more free time than we do. If you are 100% sure you want to only do retail pharmacy I would choose UH because you will probably feel you are killing yourself at Texas Tech for no reason. Texas Tech is intense, I really have no free time at all and only go home for Thanksgiving, Christmas and spring break. You cannot even imagine what pharmacy school is like until you are there, it is hard to wrap your head around.
If you are interested in clinical pharmacy I am sure TTU or UH would be fine. Tech has rotations in the 3rd year that are pretty cool because you get to look at hospital, community, in-patient (rounding with doctors), and ambulatory (anticoagulation, diabetes clinics..etc) for half a day (4 days per week) before you get thrown into rotations 8 -5 every day in your 4th year. Also we have a lot of good professors who focus on pediatric pharmacy that you can learn from. Hmm...there should also be a new classroom building completed by next Fall as well. Message me if you need more info on something specific. Good luck on interviews!
 
Im not trying to bad mouth the last post, but the work load for any pharmacy school will be rough. I have classmates that never leave the library. But if you have paid very close attention in undergrad its not as bad. Im sure there are people are Tech who still go out every weekend and sometimes during the week. I know I only study 2-3 hrs a week on average, this is not because UH is an easy program. It is because if my prior knowledge in the areas of focus.
 
I don't think you would pass your classes if you studied only 2-3 hours a week at Tech when you have at least 1 -2 tests most weeks or every other week and group hw assignments and anatomy lab every other weekend in the fall of the first year (You have to drive 4 hours to Lubbock and back). Also the P1 have to observe in a hospital pharmacy for 24 hours in one week and there are health fairs etc.
Hours per semester:
Fall P1: 22
Spring P1: 19
Fall P2: 19
Spring P2: 19
Fall P3: 20
Spring P3: 18
Your first semester might be easier if you were a biochem major in undergrad, but it would be more difficult after that.
 
Ok you win Tech's schedule sucks and there is way too much driving involved. Sounds like this thread has been answered.👍
 
Its really a matter of perspective, every one has their own personal preferences. If i am given a choice between Tech and UH i will definitely choose UH. And both schools have excellent programs...no doubt about that.
Thank you CphT and ethyl for those insights, you have no idea how much it means to us !!
 
...If you are 100% sure you want to only do retail pharmacy I would choose UH because you will probably feel you are killing yourself at Texas Tech for no reason...

So is Tech a better school for clinical pharmacy?
I would have expected UH to be strong in this area as well, especially b/c of its location and its combined degree programs.
 
I'm trying to decide which one to go to.

At Tech, they were very nice and down to earth. I am pretty much set on Tech, I like many aspects of their program.

But with an acceptance from UH, now I'm trying to see if I should change my decision. Most appealing aspect of UH is their location.

I read these posts, but I'm still undecided. Can anyone give me some other pointers about these two?
 
I dont know that much about Tech but I do know pharmacy. I have work in a variety of different hospitals in my five years as a technician. Also my current position gives me exposure to the same issues that Clinical Pharmacists deal with on a continuous basis. If anyones choice of these two schools is based on which is more clinical based, Sorry Tech, but it does not matter, which school you choose. The majority of what you will learn for clinical use will come from your third and fourth year in pharmacy school, at which both schools will take a very clinical approach to pharmacy. And as you should know by now that if you want to be a clinical pharmacist by the time you graduate doing a residency is pretty much required, PGY1 if not also a PGY2. So with that being said pick the school that you are most comfortable with.

Oh and yes the location does play a part. I work for the Methodist hospital and I know that four of the six residency positions were filled with UH graduates. and TSU and UH make up the majority of the students on rotations.
 
Thanks for all your help CPhTtoPharmD.
This is a tougher decision than I thought, but I'm glad to be in this predicament. I'm going to visit both campuses again and reevaluate all the factors. They are both excellent schools but hopefully I'll be able to choose one soon.
 
I dont know that much about Tech but I do know pharmacy. I have work in a variety of different hospitals in my five years as a technician. Also my current position gives me exposure to the same issues that Clinical Pharmacists deal with on a continuous basis. If anyones choice of these two schools is based on which is more clinical based, Sorry Tech, but it does not matter, which school you choose. The majority of what you will learn for clinical use will come from your third and fourth year in pharmacy school, at which both schools will take a very clinical approach to pharmacy. And as you should know by now that if you want to be a clinical pharmacist by the time you graduate doing a residency is pretty much required, PGY1 if not also a PGY2. So with that being said pick the school that you are most comfortable with.

Oh and yes the location does play a part. I work for the Methodist hospital and I know that four of the six residency positions were filled with UH graduates. and TSU and UH make up the majority of the students on rotations.

Sorry to interject another school into this conversation, but your answer here maybe allows me to do that. 😀

You say that the majority of students that make up the rotation sites are from UH and TSU; where, if at all, do you see the UT students that choose Houston as their 4th year clinical site? Are they right there alongside the UH students? I know there can't be nearly as many, but I was just wondering where they end up.
 
Sorry to interject another school into this conversation, but your answer here maybe allows me to do that. 😀

You say that the majority of students that make up the rotation sites are from UH and TSU; where, if at all, do you see the UT students that choose Houston as their 4th year clinical site? Are they right there alongside the UH students? I know there can't be nearly as many, but I was just wondering where they end up.

~20 students get rotations in Houston, 16 or so in Dallas, then 30 in San Antoino and 30 in Austin/Temple/Waco. Theo Co-Op kids go back to El Paso/or the Valley.
 
Looks like it has been answered. And yes I see some UT students. We some times even get students from different states, usually these students are there to do their rotations but also check out the hospital to see how they like it and if it will be one of their top picks for residency matching.
 
So what hospitals do you see the UT students at? Or does everyone get to rotate through all those hospitals in the TMC?
 
I dont know all the hospitals that UT students rotate thru in the med center. I only work at Methodist but I imagine that it is similar to what some UH students do, which is put in a request with their school to have their rotation sites in a particular city. I know some UH students that have done most of their rotations in Dallas.
 
I dont know all the hospitals that UT students rotate thru in the med center. I only work at Methodist but I imagine that it is similar to what some UH students do, which is put in a request with their school to have their rotation sites in a particular city. I know some UH students that have done most of their rotations in Dallas.

CPhTtoPharmD, do you know what some of the rotation sites are in Dallas? Do those UH students who choose Dallas for their rotations stay entirely in Dallas their final year?
 
I dont know all the hospitals that UT students rotate thru in the med center. I only work at Methodist but I imagine that it is similar to what some UH students do, which is put in a request with their school to have their rotation sites in a particular city. I know some UH students that have done most of their rotations in Dallas.

I've heard different things - maybe somebody can confirm?

If you are a student at UH, are you guaranteed to have rotations in Houston if you want them? Or is there a possibility that UH will place you in another city?

I know that UH can request rotations elsewhere, but once I'm in Houston I would like to stay there all 4 years.
 
I know that UH can request rotations elsewhere, but once I'm in Houston I would like to stay there all 4 years.

oops, meant to say "I know that UH students can..."
 
I do not know the details about going to different cities. But yes if you are a UH student and want to do all of your rotations in houston it is most likely that is what you will get. I also know there are rotation sites in New Mexico, Arizona, and Alaska. Some of which your stay for two rotations which is 12 weeks total. Hope this helps.

Also remember that some students have family some where other than houston. So they may perfer to be closer to their family that last year.
 
Hey guys, I'm like meso and was accepted into both UH and Tech (Abilene) and I'm trying to pick between these two. If this have been answered already, sorry for the repetitiveness and you can blame OChem Final for it 😛

I really want to go into residency (2 years) after my PharmD to specialize in either Pediatric or ER pharmacy. I know Houston is in the medical center but Tech has been known to have a high clinical aspect in their curriculum. Is Houston moving forward this as well? I tried to go through the residency board but it is really pretty dead and my emails to the residency directors from local hospitals have been unanswered (probably because they don't want to deal with a future P1 😛). I know Tech is rank higher than UH in the US News Ranking, but I really take those with a grain of salt because their method is just a survey.

And be it only 40 students a year, how much involvement with organizations will Abilene be able to offer?

Thanks in advance for all your answers 🙂
 
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