UMDNJ or NYMC is better? and why?

[ShyD33]

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I just got accepted to both.

which one would you go with as a better all-around program.

What are some things, one has that the other doesn't.

 

[Phil Anthropist]

I would do UMDNJ's program if I had to choose. NYMC is a two year program. UMDNJ's can be finished in one year, but most take 1.5 years. UMDNJ allows you to take several medical school courses, NYMC doesn't. You can get in-state residency in New Jersey after one-year, if I remember correctly. NYMC on the other hand is much more expensive because it's a private school (I'm talking about the med schools, not the graduate programs). My only problem with UMDNJ's program is the area (Newark), but in the Fall of 2006 a new graduate housing complex will be opened right by the school. NYMC is only now keeping track of their graduates' success. UMDNJ had their success stats up on their website at one point, I'd have to check and see if the stats are still there.

 

[Kazema]

Actually you can get NJ residency just by having a 1-year lease and changing your driver's license to a NJ one.

 

[Phil Anthropist]

Actually you can get NJ residency just by having a 1-year lease and changing your driver's license to a NJ one.

Thanks for clearing that up Kazema...now if it wasn't for their cursed car insurance. 😀

Also, I see you've been accepted to UMDNJ-SOM. Congrats!

 

[ctothed]

I would do UMDNJ's program if I had to choose. NYMC is a two year program. UMDNJ's can be finished in one year, but most take 1.5 years. UMDNJ allows you to take several medical school courses, NYMC doesn't. You can get in-state residency in New Jersey after one-year, if I remember correctly. NYMC on the other hand is much more expensive because it's a private school (I'm talking about the med schools, not the graduate programs). My only problem with UMDNJ's program is the area (Newark), but in the Fall of 2006 a new graduate housing complex will be opened right by the school. NYMC is only now keeping track of their graduates' success. UMDNJ had their success stats up on their website at one point, I'd have to check and see if the stats are still there.

I'm not sure about the stats- on their site they have a graphs showing 270 this of the graduates since 1997-2003
36 to UMDNJ, 9 other MD , 9 Osteo and then about 50 did other things like teach, biotech company and PhD... I don't know, but I'm not terribly impressed with those stats.

 

[ShyD33]

I would do UMDNJ's program if I had to choose. NYMC is a two year program. UMDNJ's can be finished in one year, but most take 1.5 years. UMDNJ allows you to take several medical school courses, NYMC doesn't. You can get in-state residency in New Jersey after one-year, if I remember correctly. NYMC on the other hand is much more expensive because it's a private school (I'm talking about the med schools, not the graduate programs). My only problem with UMDNJ's program is the area (Newark), but in the Fall of 2006 a new graduate housing complex will be opened right by the school. NYMC is only now keeping track of their graduates' success. UMDNJ had their success stats up on their website at one point, I'd have to check and see if the stats are still there.

sounds like the decision should be an easy one then huh?

the residency thing is a huge plus too..

 

[Phil Anthropist]

I'm not sure about the stats- on their site they have a graphs showing 270 this of the graduates since 1997-2003
36 to UMDNJ, 9 other MD , 9 Osteo and then about 50 did other things like teach, biotech company and PhD... I don't know, but I'm not terribly impressed with those stats.

The way it's written is somewhat confusing. I still can't make complete sense of how it all adds up from the description and the graphs, but I do know this:

***270 have not graduated***

231 students have *enrolled* in the program since 1997. Only 73 have completed the program. The denominator should be 73, not 270. I don't know the exact stats, but rest assured that the success rate is better than 54/270.

34 out of 73 matriculated at UMDNJ-NJMS and it looks like at least 8 more went on to other MD schools and 8 went on to DO schools. Also, keep in mind that the MS in Biomedical Sciences program is not solely a premedical program.

Let's try and make a hypothetical success rate for kicks:

-Let's say that out of the 73, 15 were not MD applicants. So let's make the total number of US pre-allo applicants 58
-Let's say that out of the 8 other MD schools, 4 are foreign and 4 are US schools
-This would give you 34 NJMS matriculants (as stated in the website) + 4 other US MD matriculants for a total of at least 38 US MD-only matriculants
-This would give you at least a 65% acceptance rate for US allo schools alone (keep in mind these numbers wouldn't even account for applicants who were accepted at US MD schools, but matriculated at DO schools like UMDNJ-SOM, so the percentage would probably even be a little higher)
-This would give you at least an 86% acceptance rate for US allo + US osteo + foreign allo

Again this is hypothetical, so the actual percentages may be lower or higher. I don't know, but suffice it to say that the success rate is much better than 20%

 

[ragingbull]

a bit off topic (and i know med school rankings are subjective), but does anyone have any non-paying site links? seems like any google search will come up with spam up the wazoo

 

[ShyD33]

a bit off topic (and i know med school rankings are subjective), but does anyone have any non-paying site links? seems like any google search will come up with spam up the wazoo

Can anyone else comment on NYMC?? ...I'm about to send in a denial for NYMC and an acceptance to UMDNJ....

 

[Superflyjsc]

Can anyone else comment on NYMC?? ...I'm about to send in a denial for NYMC and an acceptance to UMDNJ....

I remember someone here posted a topic about how he wouldnt recommend UMDNJ to anyone and how he hated that school. I dont remember who it was or what he exactly wrote about it but im sure u can look through the pages and find that topic and see what that dudes opinion about the school was...

 

[Phil Anthropist]

I remember someone here posted a topic about how he wouldnt recommend UMDNJ to anyone and how he hated that school. I dont remember who it was or what he exactly wrote about it but im sure u can look through the pages and find that topic and see what that dudes opinion about the school was...

I think you're talking about syperidot's thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=94457 He didn't like a lot of things about the program, but if you see his later posts in that same thread he doesn't think it's that bad. He's even considering attending there for med school. Nevertheless, his thread is definitely worth a read if you're considering the program. It's three pages and you can find many of the major pros and cons of the program within the thread.