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Hey guys, I am going to sit in on a PBL session tomorrow with a M1. Does anyone have any specific question you would like me to ask her while I am there?
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gdbaby said:
Hey gd, I would like to hear from more MS1s on "daily" schedules. I know that others have posted what some have said, but it would be nice to hear it from MS1s who are near the end of their first year. I know that it will change per block, but it would be nice to get confirmation at least on what the first couple of blocks will look like. Thanks!
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It was included with the packet of stuff we received at the interview. It was the yellow printouts. I figure things could change a bit for us, but at least it gives us an idea. My ability to find stuff on the CU SOM website is not great - even for things I've been to before. Oh well....
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I emailed Sean earlier this week to inquiry about the timing for the move to Fitz. I received a response today.
"Ground breaking for the education complex is scheduled for April 10,
then 18 months later we will all be out there."
At least this gives us some idea.
"Ground breaking for the education complex is scheduled for April 10,
then 18 months later we will all be out there."
At least this gives us some idea.
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gdbaby said:
I agree "daily" schedules would be great. Since the audio lectures are not school sponsored (I think), how does that work? Do the lectures help? Do most M1s go to lecture?
Thanks and have a great time tomorrow in the PBL session!
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What's PBL?
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gdbaby said:
I may be too late, but ...
-How much did undergrad anatomy and biochem classes help ease the burden of year 1?
-Are there any plans to make video of lectures available (I've read in other threads that this REALLY helps)?
-What are MS1's summer plans?
Thanks!!
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Cool, I will put these all together and inundate her with questions this afternoon.
Moran, PBL is "Problem Based Learning"--small groups get presented with a "case" and have to figure out what's wrong.
Moran, PBL is "Problem Based Learning"--small groups get presented with a "case" and have to figure out what's wrong.
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I know (or at least I think) it's early, but does anyone know when we should expect to hear from the financial aid office about our "packages"? I don't want to bug them too much b/c I'm sure they're incredibly busy right now. But, at the same time, I don't want to get left in the dust.
I found that everyone in th FA office was incredibly friendly and helpful when I was filling out all of the forms, but I haven't heard back from them in quite a while. On my interview day, Dr. Sondheimer gave the following speech about financial aid, "Medical school is expensive. We do have a financial aid office and they have a bunch of forms." It was kind of funny at the time, but now I have to keep repeating to myself, "Don't be a spazz, don't be a spazz, it always works out."
Sorry to bring up such an annoying topic, but I'd appreciate any info/advice. Thanks, guys!
Gd, I hope your day went well. I'm excited to see what kind of information you've picked up for all of us!
I found that everyone in th FA office was incredibly friendly and helpful when I was filling out all of the forms, but I haven't heard back from them in quite a while. On my interview day, Dr. Sondheimer gave the following speech about financial aid, "Medical school is expensive. We do have a financial aid office and they have a bunch of forms." It was kind of funny at the time, but now I have to keep repeating to myself, "Don't be a spazz, don't be a spazz, it always works out."
Sorry to bring up such an annoying topic, but I'd appreciate any info/advice. Thanks, guys!
Gd, I hope your day went well. I'm excited to see what kind of information you've picked up for all of us!
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tin can said:
I called the financial aid office on March 21 and the nice woman I spoke with said that award letters would be sent out "in a couple months." If you don't hear something my the 2nd week in May, that would be cause for concern.
Just make sure your file is complete and cross your fingers...
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Thanks, Moran! They said that my file "appeared" complete on March 14th, so maybe I'll check with them once more for a more certain response (i.e. "is complete") and then relax and leave them alone =)moranwoods said:
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You should expect to hear about finances in mid-June. That's because you have to wait until the CCHE and Regents set tuition, which usually happens in late May/early/late June, if I remember correctly. There is basically no chance you will get the financial info before you have to make your school decision on May 15, if you're still choosing.
As far as "package": in previous years, very few grants/scholarships were available to incoming students, even the most needy. Most grants were only a few thousand dollars max, and there were no full-tuition scholarships available through the school. There is a grant that almost every needy student gets of $2100/year; there are other grants/scholarships offered through the year. I know they have been working on raising new funds for scholarships, but I don't know if any of that is concrete yet. (Those of you with multiple acceptances, be sure to look at the $ carefully, because a private school with good financial aid can end up being much cheaper.)
Your federal loan package will max out at about $37,500. If you look at the Cost of Attendance at http://www.uchsc.edu/finaid/, you can predict that in 2006-07, it will cost you more than $37,500 to go to school. This means that you will have to live on less than the budgeted amount, win the lottery, or get private loans (which will often require a co-signer).
The current students are advocating strongly for better, earlier, more complete financial aid info, and the situation is slowly improving. Hopefully you will get a much more complete picture at pre-orientation.
As far as "package": in previous years, very few grants/scholarships were available to incoming students, even the most needy. Most grants were only a few thousand dollars max, and there were no full-tuition scholarships available through the school. There is a grant that almost every needy student gets of $2100/year; there are other grants/scholarships offered through the year. I know they have been working on raising new funds for scholarships, but I don't know if any of that is concrete yet. (Those of you with multiple acceptances, be sure to look at the $ carefully, because a private school with good financial aid can end up being much cheaper.)
Your federal loan package will max out at about $37,500. If you look at the Cost of Attendance at http://www.uchsc.edu/finaid/, you can predict that in 2006-07, it will cost you more than $37,500 to go to school. This means that you will have to live on less than the budgeted amount, win the lottery, or get private loans (which will often require a co-signer).
The current students are advocating strongly for better, earlier, more complete financial aid info, and the situation is slowly improving. Hopefully you will get a much more complete picture at pre-orientation.
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Dr. Sondheimer just sent an email out regarding the Open House for Accepted Students (formerly known as pre-orientation). I'm looking forward to meeting those of you who can come on the 21st!
Anyone want to venture a guess at what the "group activity" is going to be?
Anyone want to venture a guess at what the "group activity" is going to be?
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I just got back from sitting in on the PBL class. Some general observations before I answer the specific questions you all wanted answered:
1. These were some happy looking students. They were laughing a lot, their facilitator was interesting and engaging, and the presentation of the material was super interesting.
2. The group consisted of two neighboring anatomy lab groups (worked on neighboring cadavers) so they had pretty much been together the whole year. Everyone was really friendly and, even though they all had different personalities that seemed to correspond to their medical interests (or my stereotypes of said interests!) they were all respectful of each other and seemed to be genuine friends.
3. about daily schedules: they all said that they LOVED their schedule and that we will love it even more since it won't be the guinea pigs of the new curriculum. Even during anatomy time, they had many afternoons off (2 or 3 during anatomy; 3-4 after anatomy). They were all going out for margarita's for someone's birthday right after class today. Probably not typical, but at least they aren't studying ALL the time. A few said they got to lecture in the morning, study all afternoon and then keep their evenings to themselves. I think that depends onthe student, but it also seemed like a nice feature.
4. Audio lectures: since they are not sponsored by the school, it is up to each class to see if someone (or more) will be willing to take on the project. The lectures are digitally recorded and then posted as MP3's to listen to on Media Player or your MP3 player. The two student's I talked to said they did not use them, though, so I can't speak to how effective they are. I am an audio learner, so I think they would be helpful to me.
5. No plans for video lectures. Although I have a digital camcorder so if someone would be willing to show me what to do....
6. I was told not to worry about not having anatomy or biochem prior to matriculation because it will be so much more complex and detailed in med school. So, perhaps it may be a little helpful to have had a primer course, but it is not a disadvantage having not taken a primer course.
7. Many of the M1's were hoping to do nothing over the summer. Some were going to try to make some money working in a lab or doing som researchbut many were going to try to take it easy. Which leads me to my last point.
8. On several occassions M1s said "ENJOY your summer." Don't prep for school (except for your personal things you may need to get in order) don't fret about school,--pretty much just live each summer day like it is your last. I say this, but then they all seemed so happy.
It was a very refreshing experience and made me feel very good in choosing Colorado.
1. These were some happy looking students. They were laughing a lot, their facilitator was interesting and engaging, and the presentation of the material was super interesting.
2. The group consisted of two neighboring anatomy lab groups (worked on neighboring cadavers) so they had pretty much been together the whole year. Everyone was really friendly and, even though they all had different personalities that seemed to correspond to their medical interests (or my stereotypes of said interests!) they were all respectful of each other and seemed to be genuine friends.
3. about daily schedules: they all said that they LOVED their schedule and that we will love it even more since it won't be the guinea pigs of the new curriculum. Even during anatomy time, they had many afternoons off (2 or 3 during anatomy; 3-4 after anatomy). They were all going out for margarita's for someone's birthday right after class today. Probably not typical, but at least they aren't studying ALL the time. A few said they got to lecture in the morning, study all afternoon and then keep their evenings to themselves. I think that depends onthe student, but it also seemed like a nice feature.
4. Audio lectures: since they are not sponsored by the school, it is up to each class to see if someone (or more) will be willing to take on the project. The lectures are digitally recorded and then posted as MP3's to listen to on Media Player or your MP3 player. The two student's I talked to said they did not use them, though, so I can't speak to how effective they are. I am an audio learner, so I think they would be helpful to me.
5. No plans for video lectures. Although I have a digital camcorder so if someone would be willing to show me what to do....
6. I was told not to worry about not having anatomy or biochem prior to matriculation because it will be so much more complex and detailed in med school. So, perhaps it may be a little helpful to have had a primer course, but it is not a disadvantage having not taken a primer course.
7. Many of the M1's were hoping to do nothing over the summer. Some were going to try to make some money working in a lab or doing som researchbut many were going to try to take it easy. Which leads me to my last point.
8. On several occassions M1s said "ENJOY your summer." Don't prep for school (except for your personal things you may need to get in order) don't fret about school,--pretty much just live each summer day like it is your last. I say this, but then they all seemed so happy.
It was a very refreshing experience and made me feel very good in choosing Colorado.
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gdbaby said:
Thanks for the insight gd! It's really great to hear positive feedback about our school.
I think the mock PBL session would be fun! Come to think of it, how "mock" could it be? Anyways, we'll have to dazzle them with our brilliance and then go buy Taco his beer (if his wife hasn't had the critter yet).
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I was thinking at the first sign of a hard question I would create a diversion by yelling something like "look a shoe sale!" and then I would warm a spot for us at Pints to get Taco his beer!
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Great info, gd! So what was the case study in the PBL session? Was it interesting?
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It was really interesting. The case is presented as a series of handouts. The scenario is that you are at your preceptor's office and somone comes in. In this case it was an 59 year old African American woman who came in worried that she may have breast cancer since her friend was just diagnosed with breast cancer. So the first hand out is very superficial,yet pertinent, stuff: she takes care of her grandson so her daughter cna work. This was the only day she could get time to come to the doctor. She expereinces shortness of breath when running after her grandson, etc. Then the students list what they feel are the important pieces of info from the initial observation and start to make some hypotheses about what may be the diagnosis. Then someone will say "perhaps we should move on to a patient history." If the facilitator thinks they have covered everything, he/she will hand out the next sheet with the patient history. Tons more info: family history of diabetes, hypertension, she had a hysterectomy at 45, etc., insomnia, lack of appetite, etc., uses an albuteral inhaler for asthma occassionally.moranwoods said:
From there they get another sheet with her vitals and other physical information: she's 5'3", 176 lbs, BP 156/90, HR 90, last chest xray 5 years ago, last mamogram at 50, no signs of breast cancer, etc (read: a whole bunch of stuff hear I didn't understand).
Then, they wrapped up the session by determining what tests they would run and why (I guess this comes later as you get more skilled in the PBL process). They will get the test results next week and make their diagnosis.
All the while, when they have larger questions, they are placed in a "learning objectives" section on the board. For instance, when they were considering whether or not the woman could have depression, someone asked the question "how does the treatment process differ for major depression and minor depression?" So, that question became a learning objective and someone would volunteer to do the research and post the information to the rest of the group beofre the next session.
Super cool.
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gdbaby said:
Sorry gdbaby, but I don't understand the question. 🙁
I assume that you recieved the Word docs from Sean with the instruction sheet (very brief). In the essay portion of each doc, explain how you meet the criteria and why you should be selected based on such. Fill out the information directly in the Word doc and either email them to Sean or deliver them to the noted campus box by April 28th. Make sense?
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Hello all -
Just found this thread (only peruse sdn occasionally, as i have tried to avoid being sucked into the world of histrionic pre-meds who obsess about such important details as paperclips vs. staples for mailing their apps) and am glad to see there are other normal (at least that's what i consider myself, and from what i have read in 5 pages of postings, you-all to be) folks going into medicine out there! Forgive me as i have just finished reading the entire thread, so i'm a little behind; Here are some questions/comments/general musings for you:
First off, I should say that i am PROBABLY going to colorado; i am still on wait lists at a couple places (UCSF and Wash.U), but those are seeming more and more like delayed rejections so i think that my chances of joining you are very high.
I won't be able to make the pre-orientation on the 21st - can't justify the flight and time off from work after all that from interviews - but am very anxious to hear what they say about all these key issues.
gd: i definately remember you from interview day. You, myself, and that swiss dude from pitt went to get starbucks after the info session and before our first interviews. glad that you and some other non-trads got in! I don't have kids (yet 😉 ) but have been out of school for a while and think i will fit in better with you guys then the fresh out of college kids.
Money: i have been loosely following the budget news out of denver since i now have a vested interest, and certianly am discouraged by the legislature AND school's hypocrisy in mercilessly increasing tuition while simultaneously promising to encourage and send more grads into primary care - seems like the 200+ k debt-load will make that a very unattractive choice. As an out-of-stater, i figure i'm already being screwed over with that astronomical 1st year price (~90,000 COA?!) so what's another 40-60k over 4 years?
Chicago: i went to Northwestern for undergrad, and did research at Children's in Lincoln park while i was there (btw, did you guys hear that they are leaving that site and moving the entire operation across from NU medschool's campus on lakeshore?) - i definately enjoyed more than a few portillo's hotdogs during my tenure (although for pure naming genius you cannot beat "mustard's last stand" outside NU's football stadium), but what i truly miss is deep-dish pizza at gino's east. There are some imitators out here on the west coast, but they do not compare...
Computer: To address a couple previous points at once, It is definately a good thing that they will allow us to have our own machines, since mac just announced that windows OS will now run on mac! You will have to reboot the computer (cannot run XP and OS-X at once) but will be able to take advantage of the blazing fast new macs w/intel chips and still run applications that only work on windows.
Denver: the location is a huge draw for me. I am also a triathlete, and the chance to train at altitude and be part of the whole endurance culture, mountain, outdoor sports scene in general is very appealling for me (not that we'll have any time for that kind of stuff, i suppose). I am a little worried about finding a place, but coming from the bay area i figure it cannot be worse. tell me, about how much would 1bdrm rentals within a 2 mile radius of the 9th ave campus go for?
Class size: so they raised the class size to 156 - maybe its just me but are there enough seats in the lecture hall? I know that fitz will be bigger but doesn't seem likely that we'll be there for much class before our 2nd year is over. And it sounds like everyone will actually be showing up to class. Forgive me if i don't feel like paying 90 grand to sit on the f@#$ing floor.
Scholarships: I got the word docs from Sean. Do you guys know if all of these are available to out of staters? The first one especially sounds like maybe not.
sorry for rambling on! I look forward to escaping as much work as possible by chatting with you guys over the next few months...
Just found this thread (only peruse sdn occasionally, as i have tried to avoid being sucked into the world of histrionic pre-meds who obsess about such important details as paperclips vs. staples for mailing their apps) and am glad to see there are other normal (at least that's what i consider myself, and from what i have read in 5 pages of postings, you-all to be) folks going into medicine out there! Forgive me as i have just finished reading the entire thread, so i'm a little behind; Here are some questions/comments/general musings for you:
First off, I should say that i am PROBABLY going to colorado; i am still on wait lists at a couple places (UCSF and Wash.U), but those are seeming more and more like delayed rejections so i think that my chances of joining you are very high.
I won't be able to make the pre-orientation on the 21st - can't justify the flight and time off from work after all that from interviews - but am very anxious to hear what they say about all these key issues.
gd: i definately remember you from interview day. You, myself, and that swiss dude from pitt went to get starbucks after the info session and before our first interviews. glad that you and some other non-trads got in! I don't have kids (yet 😉 ) but have been out of school for a while and think i will fit in better with you guys then the fresh out of college kids.
Money: i have been loosely following the budget news out of denver since i now have a vested interest, and certianly am discouraged by the legislature AND school's hypocrisy in mercilessly increasing tuition while simultaneously promising to encourage and send more grads into primary care - seems like the 200+ k debt-load will make that a very unattractive choice. As an out-of-stater, i figure i'm already being screwed over with that astronomical 1st year price (~90,000 COA?!) so what's another 40-60k over 4 years?
Chicago: i went to Northwestern for undergrad, and did research at Children's in Lincoln park while i was there (btw, did you guys hear that they are leaving that site and moving the entire operation across from NU medschool's campus on lakeshore?) - i definately enjoyed more than a few portillo's hotdogs during my tenure (although for pure naming genius you cannot beat "mustard's last stand" outside NU's football stadium), but what i truly miss is deep-dish pizza at gino's east. There are some imitators out here on the west coast, but they do not compare...
Computer: To address a couple previous points at once, It is definately a good thing that they will allow us to have our own machines, since mac just announced that windows OS will now run on mac! You will have to reboot the computer (cannot run XP and OS-X at once) but will be able to take advantage of the blazing fast new macs w/intel chips and still run applications that only work on windows.
Denver: the location is a huge draw for me. I am also a triathlete, and the chance to train at altitude and be part of the whole endurance culture, mountain, outdoor sports scene in general is very appealling for me (not that we'll have any time for that kind of stuff, i suppose). I am a little worried about finding a place, but coming from the bay area i figure it cannot be worse. tell me, about how much would 1bdrm rentals within a 2 mile radius of the 9th ave campus go for?
Class size: so they raised the class size to 156 - maybe its just me but are there enough seats in the lecture hall? I know that fitz will be bigger but doesn't seem likely that we'll be there for much class before our 2nd year is over. And it sounds like everyone will actually be showing up to class. Forgive me if i don't feel like paying 90 grand to sit on the f@#$ing floor.
Scholarships: I got the word docs from Sean. Do you guys know if all of these are available to out of staters? The first one especially sounds like maybe not.
sorry for rambling on! I look forward to escaping as much work as possible by chatting with you guys over the next few months...
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If you're coming from the Bay area, welcome to the land of plenty of housing. It's super-easy to find a place within a mile or two of campus.
The school maintains a housing list:
http://www.uchsc.edu/studentassistance/housinginfo/index.htm
This will give you an idea of prices and locations. One woman in my class has a 1-bed apt with free internet and utilities included, for $350, about a mile from school. It's pretty easy to find a small 1-bed apt for $400-500, utilities included, within walking distance, and these are relatively safe neighborhoods.
The school maintains a housing list:
http://www.uchsc.edu/studentassistance/housinginfo/index.htm
This will give you an idea of prices and locations. One woman in my class has a 1-bed apt with free internet and utilities included, for $350, about a mile from school. It's pretty easy to find a small 1-bed apt for $400-500, utilities included, within walking distance, and these are relatively safe neighborhoods.
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Hey ABB!
Well, I can certainly understand if we lose you to the likes of UCSF or Wash U, but if you come here I will buy you a beer as my small way of helping offset the costs of coming here! I need another tri-guy here to motivate me to exercise next year. We probably can't train together as I am a slow triathlete--no DaBoom like qualities here. It's always a humbling site to see the 50-somethings passing me on the bike and run (why must they put our age groups on our thighs for all to see?).
On a more serious note: I hate you. I hate you for eating Portilllo's. I hate you for going to the school that kicked me out of their library when I was in high school. Granted, I did break their microfische machine while researching for the debate team, but c'mon! Was I surprised when they rejected me for undergrad? No. I was not surprised at all. Those Wildcats are just a bitter, resentful, bunch of folk. As I start to size up who I should not piss off in med school--you are on that list. I probably just failed though. Curses!
There are tons of cheap, clean, safe apartments in the vicinity of the school. You may also live in our garage. I will try to dress it up with the left over wainscoting we have from the bathroom. There is also a space heater. Seriously, I can send you some websites/postings if you need some.
So you don't have any kids. Would you like one? Ours is going through his terrible twos and he isn't even two yet. He is for sale. He has all his shots and is housebroken.
Class size: I believe there are just enough seats for each student, but I would get to class a little early and carve your name in the desk with the words "Back Off" under it. You are a Northwestern grad, so everyone will understand.
I do think anyone can apply for the scholarships. I should let all of you know that I have been sleeping with everyone in the financial aid office, so I know at least ONE person that will be getting a tuition break.
Well, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition is on now and I haven't cried since last Sunday night, so I better get to it.
Cheers!
Well, I can certainly understand if we lose you to the likes of UCSF or Wash U, but if you come here I will buy you a beer as my small way of helping offset the costs of coming here! I need another tri-guy here to motivate me to exercise next year. We probably can't train together as I am a slow triathlete--no DaBoom like qualities here. It's always a humbling site to see the 50-somethings passing me on the bike and run (why must they put our age groups on our thighs for all to see?).
On a more serious note: I hate you. I hate you for eating Portilllo's. I hate you for going to the school that kicked me out of their library when I was in high school. Granted, I did break their microfische machine while researching for the debate team, but c'mon! Was I surprised when they rejected me for undergrad? No. I was not surprised at all. Those Wildcats are just a bitter, resentful, bunch of folk. As I start to size up who I should not piss off in med school--you are on that list. I probably just failed though. Curses!
There are tons of cheap, clean, safe apartments in the vicinity of the school. You may also live in our garage. I will try to dress it up with the left over wainscoting we have from the bathroom. There is also a space heater. Seriously, I can send you some websites/postings if you need some.
So you don't have any kids. Would you like one? Ours is going through his terrible twos and he isn't even two yet. He is for sale. He has all his shots and is housebroken.
Class size: I believe there are just enough seats for each student, but I would get to class a little early and carve your name in the desk with the words "Back Off" under it. You are a Northwestern grad, so everyone will understand.
I do think anyone can apply for the scholarships. I should let all of you know that I have been sleeping with everyone in the financial aid office, so I know at least ONE person that will be getting a tuition break.
Well, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition is on now and I haven't cried since last Sunday night, so I better get to it.
Cheers!
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Welcome ABB! We'll be sure to let you know what we find out during the pre-orientation. I agree with gd that anyone should be able to apply for the scholarships.
While I'm not a triathelete, I am a runner and absolutely love being here in Colorado for the reasons that appeal to you. When I run at sea-level I feel like machine!
While I'm not a triathelete, I am a runner and absolutely love being here in Colorado for the reasons that appeal to you. When I run at sea-level I feel like machine!
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What's the word from MS1's and MS2's on the Foundations of Doctoring course? Sounds sweet to me, but does it survive the hype?
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Welcome, ABB! I just got back from a lunchtime lecture at the fancy new Northwestern Univ. Cancer Center (rumor has it that the children's hospital is going up where the Lakeside-VA building is by the way) and we had Giradanos Pizza for lunch, oh, and listened to a lecture from a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who covers all of the medical press for the Wall Street Journal. I'd say forgive the spelling of Girodano's, but I cannot bring myself to respect deep dish "pizza". Medbound, I'm begging you to convince those New Yorkers/East coasters to bring their beautiful and tasty pizza to Chicago! These poor people.
I'm trying desperately to hold out on condemnation of the school's administration b/c it feels like it was just yesterday when I was saying, "All I want to do is go to med school, no matter where, no matter the cost...oh, and if I could go to Colorado I'd be the happiest person in the world." I suspect I'll be grinning at these words in the very near future, but for now I think I'm still overwhelmed by the idea that I'll be starting medical school in 4 months. Don't worry though, I'll be more than happy to shift gears and occupy my disgruntled student role soon after arrival =)
ABB, if there aren't enough chairs, will you join me on a mission to steal folding chairs from the admin offices? I mean, I think you especially shouldn't have to go buy your own =) We can buy a nice Kryptonite U-lock and keep them out back on the bike racks.
Better get back to crunching numbers. The only good thing about my job right now is that our new office has a bright red phone mounted on the wall. I really hope that it rings once before I leave.
I'm trying desperately to hold out on condemnation of the school's administration b/c it feels like it was just yesterday when I was saying, "All I want to do is go to med school, no matter where, no matter the cost...oh, and if I could go to Colorado I'd be the happiest person in the world." I suspect I'll be grinning at these words in the very near future, but for now I think I'm still overwhelmed by the idea that I'll be starting medical school in 4 months. Don't worry though, I'll be more than happy to shift gears and occupy my disgruntled student role soon after arrival =)
ABB, if there aren't enough chairs, will you join me on a mission to steal folding chairs from the admin offices? I mean, I think you especially shouldn't have to go buy your own =) We can buy a nice Kryptonite U-lock and keep them out back on the bike racks.
Better get back to crunching numbers. The only good thing about my job right now is that our new office has a bright red phone mounted on the wall. I really hope that it rings once before I leave.
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moranwoods said:
I don't know about the Class of 2009, but the Old Curriculum classes generally liked Foundations more than most other courses. It lives up to the hype, with excellent faculty running the course, good clinical faculty for the on-campus sessions, and solid training for patient encounters (also useful in preparing for Step 2 clinical skills exam). Experiences with individual clinical preceptors (community doctors) are much more variable, although mine have been very good.
There's a lot to be said for practicing these skills many times in a low-stress setting, without being graded, BEFORE you get to the wards in third year.
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gdbaby said:
On the contrary, I've been working on complex recursion routines in overloaded polyporphic inherited classes for an object-oriented enterprise level commercial grade financial system for high $$$ clients.
My brain is tired.
I'm thinking of going into Emergency Medicine -- you know, something a little less stressful than software engineering. 🙂
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Here's what I heard:medicalbound said:
"Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah..,commercial...blah, blah, blah."
I, on the other hand, am writing my lecture for tonights graduate seminar. We are discussing Foucault's concept of discourse creating situations of power/knowledge; the creation of docile bodies; Panopticism; and how all of this relates to Marx and postructuralist marxists.
I think I will go into neurosurgery. It seems less confusing that social theory. 🙂
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gdbaby said:
There is the distinct possiblity I was just zinged.
Oh, but gdbaby, you will learn to appreciate my honed analytical and data mining skills if ever we do research together. With our newly gained knowledge of medicine, my technical skills, and your drinking ability... I mean people skills, we will be able to publish material that will rock the medical community!
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I love this idea! Rocking the medical community. I can think of no greater honor than both of us being presented with some sort of award and having the presenter say something like "Mb and gd, you rock our world!"
I also like this statement from despair.com:
"Power corrupts.
Absolute power currupts absolutely,
but it rocks absolutely, too."
and now, a little bit from tonight's lecture:
Poststructuralist Marxists play around with Marxs notion of ideology. Believing that ideology is our imaginary relations to the real conditions of our existence, ideologys come into existence only through actionwhen we act on what we believe. This gives us the conception of interpellation, the idea that a text (or an ideology) calls to us, names us, positions us in relation to its belief structure--and we either say Yeah, that's me, and that idea is true, and I believe it and act on it, or we say no, that's not me, I don't believe that, I won't do what that belief system tells me to do. So for poststructuralist Marxists like Althusser, the base-determines-superstructure schematic is turned on its head: the material activities of life are always guided by ideology. Our beliefs create our material reality, and ideology becomes relatively autonomous from the economic realm.
Feel free to bring this up at cocktail parties. That's the extent to its usefulness in the real world.
I also like this statement from despair.com:
"Power corrupts.
Absolute power currupts absolutely,
but it rocks absolutely, too."
and now, a little bit from tonight's lecture:
Poststructuralist Marxists play around with Marxs notion of ideology. Believing that ideology is our imaginary relations to the real conditions of our existence, ideologys come into existence only through actionwhen we act on what we believe. This gives us the conception of interpellation, the idea that a text (or an ideology) calls to us, names us, positions us in relation to its belief structure--and we either say Yeah, that's me, and that idea is true, and I believe it and act on it, or we say no, that's not me, I don't believe that, I won't do what that belief system tells me to do. So for poststructuralist Marxists like Althusser, the base-determines-superstructure schematic is turned on its head: the material activities of life are always guided by ideology. Our beliefs create our material reality, and ideology becomes relatively autonomous from the economic realm.
Feel free to bring this up at cocktail parties. That's the extent to its usefulness in the real world.
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gdbaby said:
Its not coming soon enough. I survived another day without the dam bursting. I now have 4 (no, maybe 5 - ah, who cares) engineers that I am managing while hunting for enough bananas to keep the monkeys from jumping on my back. Last week wasn't the greatest, but this week I changed my tactics and found a fresh supply of bananas!
Even though I know I only have a few months left, its hard to shutdown the engines; however, I am trying - about every couple of days, I don't shave and during the intermediate days, wrinkled clothes are my norm. In a few weeks, I'll combine the two. Maybe during the last few weeks, clothes might be optional 😀 . Plus, I'm "running errands" tomorrow afternoon and heading up to Denver to look for a place to live.
For me, EM is my biggest interest (90%). I cannot wait to begin. Its amazing to think how incredibly ignorant I am today and the total volume of material and ability to care for patients I will (hopefully) know in 4 years!
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TacoStand said:
Hey Taco Stand, I just thought of a way to let your employer know that you are medical bound, wait that's me, crap! you know what I mean.
You can start coming to work in scrubs and make comments like...
"Wow, these are really comfy. I feel like I'm wearing pajamas. I just realized that I really like wearing scrubs. I think I'm going to start wearing scrubs every day! What was that? Scrubs are not appropriate attire for an engineer? Hmmmm, maybe I'll start thinking about a career where I can wear these polyester marvels every day."
That way, they won't be so shocked when you tell them that you're leaving to become a doctor in a couple of months. Not too many people on the outside know what the application process is like anyways (sucks you dry to the marrow of your soul), so they won't be suspicious that you've been plotting against them for a few years now.
Of course, you'll become the monkey -- scutmonkey that is. And your bananas become dry saltenes stolen from a patient's tray as you make your 151st run to central supply for Some Common Unfinished Task while you're dreaming about Some Clinically Useful Training.
Toss me a cracker my friend. Vive scutmonkeys!
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This is for mb and tacostand:
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medicalbound said:
Wow! This is a really good idea. In fact, its a great idea.
My plan is to let them know at the beginning of June. I'll probably work up until the end of July. It will be perfect timing. We will be in the middle of a new product launch - what a time to exit the stage!
Scutmonkey heaven, here I come....
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Taco, too bad you weren't running errands on Thurs or Fri. I would have loved to show you around and help you out. I don't work on Thursdays or Fridays (head over to the pre-allo threads--I have CNN's #2 job in America).
This goes for anyone coming out here. If you are coming out on a TH/F/weekend, I would be happy to show you areas, etc.
This goes for anyone coming out here. If you are coming out on a TH/F/weekend, I would be happy to show you areas, etc.
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Thanks all for the welcomes and housing info.
I think i'll hold off on taking the kid right now GD, but if i can't find an apartment perhaps i will take you up on your garage 🙂
Sorry if i came off sounding too negative about the school/administration already; it is amazing how quickly we can forget how much we would have given anything just to get in ANYWHERE, and now we are all in at a great school. In the end, i supppose you are going to owe a ton of $$, become a doctor, and pay it back eventually - so why stress about it, right? i'll try... but i will definately volunteer for any chair-stealing missions should the need arise!
Taco: I am intersted in EM as well. I have been volunteering at the UCSF Emergency Room for most of the past year, and it has been great - plenty of scutmonkey tasks, but still a great experience. I also have a friend (another triathlon guy) who graduated from UCSF last year and is now an EM resident on the 8th avenue campus - once we're all there in the fall we should get together so we can hear directly what its like and the best pathway to get there. and good luck with your exit strategy. I also wanted to wait until close to the end to announce that I was going to med school, but that didn't quite work out...
I am a high school biology teacher (i come to our future group study sessions bearing all kinds of great mnemonics, including the order of the krebs cycle, all the hormones produced by the anterior pituitary, etc.) and late last school year one of my freshman came up and said she heard i was going - turns out one of my friends outside of school works with her mom- - oh well! Since then i have a hundred teenagers asking me every day if i've gotten any more interviews, acceptances, heard about the wait list, etc. I shouldn't complain, its actually really cute the way they've expressed an intersted throughout the process, but it does make it heard to forget about it ever 😳
perhaps i should start posting more often, so i don't write a novel every time
I think i'll hold off on taking the kid right now GD, but if i can't find an apartment perhaps i will take you up on your garage 🙂
Sorry if i came off sounding too negative about the school/administration already; it is amazing how quickly we can forget how much we would have given anything just to get in ANYWHERE, and now we are all in at a great school. In the end, i supppose you are going to owe a ton of $$, become a doctor, and pay it back eventually - so why stress about it, right? i'll try... but i will definately volunteer for any chair-stealing missions should the need arise!
Taco: I am intersted in EM as well. I have been volunteering at the UCSF Emergency Room for most of the past year, and it has been great - plenty of scutmonkey tasks, but still a great experience. I also have a friend (another triathlon guy) who graduated from UCSF last year and is now an EM resident on the 8th avenue campus - once we're all there in the fall we should get together so we can hear directly what its like and the best pathway to get there. and good luck with your exit strategy. I also wanted to wait until close to the end to announce that I was going to med school, but that didn't quite work out...
I am a high school biology teacher (i come to our future group study sessions bearing all kinds of great mnemonics, including the order of the krebs cycle, all the hormones produced by the anterior pituitary, etc.) and late last school year one of my freshman came up and said she heard i was going - turns out one of my friends outside of school works with her mom- - oh well! Since then i have a hundred teenagers asking me every day if i've gotten any more interviews, acceptances, heard about the wait list, etc. I shouldn't complain, its actually really cute the way they've expressed an intersted throughout the process, but it does make it heard to forget about it ever 😳
perhaps i should start posting more often, so i don't write a novel every time
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ABB, I'm looking forward to our chair opps. Also, EM is one of my top interests as well and I'm hoping that I can invite myself along if you and Taco ever arrange a "career day" with your friend who is an EM resident. I was an EMT for about 4 years, so I have some experience in this sort of setting. However, I am sure that there are an absolute ton of differences b/w being an emergency room physician and being in the field. Some I can imagine; others I will hopefully be able to find out from experience and by talking with people in the know.
I can relate to your mixed feelings about leaving behind great connections. I am a clinical researcher by day and youth soccer coach in the evenings. The kids are fantastic! I can't believe that I will probably never see them again after I leave in June. They all wanted me to go to school in Chicago, so I could still coach them (probably would have been a challenge with med school time constraints anyway). Now, they joke around about writing to CU to ask them to rescind my acceptance letter =) I'm thrilled about returning to CO, but will be sad to leave all of the great people I met in Chicago.
One last thing, I have to say that all of these posts have made me even more excited about CU. I love the fact that all of you guys are bringing such cool backgrounds with you. I'm not only looking forward to benefiting from some creative mnemonics, but also some pretty entertaining conversations =) So, an engineer, a high school bio teacher, and an anthropologist walk into a bar...what happens next? I guess we'll find out soon enough =)
I can relate to your mixed feelings about leaving behind great connections. I am a clinical researcher by day and youth soccer coach in the evenings. The kids are fantastic! I can't believe that I will probably never see them again after I leave in June. They all wanted me to go to school in Chicago, so I could still coach them (probably would have been a challenge with med school time constraints anyway). Now, they joke around about writing to CU to ask them to rescind my acceptance letter =) I'm thrilled about returning to CO, but will be sad to leave all of the great people I met in Chicago.
One last thing, I have to say that all of these posts have made me even more excited about CU. I love the fact that all of you guys are bringing such cool backgrounds with you. I'm not only looking forward to benefiting from some creative mnemonics, but also some pretty entertaining conversations =) So, an engineer, a high school bio teacher, and an anthropologist walk into a bar...what happens next? I guess we'll find out soon enough =)
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You guys sound awesome and I think I already know the answer to that joke Tin Can: I won't give specifics but involves dueling pianos and ABB singing "That's What Friends are For." Classic.
BTW: I just went over to BigLots and bought some police crime scene tape that we can use to block off a section of seats in the lecture hall. We can rotate going into the lecture hall after classes get out and mark our seats so that we can get to class the next day with minutes to spare.
BTW: I just went over to BigLots and bought some police crime scene tape that we can use to block off a section of seats in the lecture hall. We can rotate going into the lecture hall after classes get out and mark our seats so that we can get to class the next day with minutes to spare.
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tin can said:
Absolutely, we'll run a black ops and extract whatever info ABB's friend has 🙂.
As with all of you, I am getting pretty excited about starting. I know there are a few things to do before that; however, before we know it, we will all be watching our classmates play musical chairs as we sit comfortably within our police taped barracade.
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Hi. I am also starting at UCHSC in August. I have never posted on this website, but I felt inclined to offer some insight on the housing situation around the Fitzsimons campus. I currently work at Fitzsimons and know the surrounding area quite well, as I have been searching for housing closer to the new campus (I currently live 2 blocks away from the 8th avenue campus).
The areas east and west of Fitzsimons are run down and could potentially be dangerous for a book-toting medical student. However, the areas north and south of campus are fine if you are interested in buying a home (there is currently not much to rent in these areas). The rapid redevelopment of the Fitzsimons area presents an investment opportunity, if you do not want to rent while in school. The homes are relatively affordable $150,000-$180,000 in these areas and are quite spacious (3-5 bedrooms), which allows for roommates if money is tight. Hope this helps some.
The areas east and west of Fitzsimons are run down and could potentially be dangerous for a book-toting medical student. However, the areas north and south of campus are fine if you are interested in buying a home (there is currently not much to rent in these areas). The rapid redevelopment of the Fitzsimons area presents an investment opportunity, if you do not want to rent while in school. The homes are relatively affordable $150,000-$180,000 in these areas and are quite spacious (3-5 bedrooms), which allows for roommates if money is tight. Hope this helps some.
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Welcome aboard CUMD/PhD! When did you interview? Do you have any novel ideas for making sure everyone on this thread has a seat in the lecture hall?
I guess with the housing situation it is always a trade off. Sure, houses are cheaper out by Fitz, but you a fairly far away from anything that the downtown has to offer. You are pretty much in the suburbs (Aurora). Obviously I am staying closer to 8th avenue since we own our house and I can take the free shuttle to Fitz when needed. However, it would be nice to walk to the majority of your clinicals in years 3 and 4.
I guess with the housing situation it is always a trade off. Sure, houses are cheaper out by Fitz, but you a fairly far away from anything that the downtown has to offer. You are pretty much in the suburbs (Aurora). Obviously I am staying closer to 8th avenue since we own our house and I can take the free shuttle to Fitz when needed. However, it would be nice to walk to the majority of your clinicals in years 3 and 4.
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