University of Colorado Class of 2012

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Hey guys,

Also, I'm a little hesitant attending a school known for 'non-traditional' students. I just turned 21 a few months ago and honestly don't feel I'm quite there yet in terms of maturity. Any feedback?



Hey, I actually had the same concern as you. I'm also only 21, and I definitely feel like a child at times. But during the day of revisit, most people I met were either straight out of college or were taking 1-2 years off, so I don't think it would be a problem fitting in. Also, I met a girl who was only 20, so I'm pretty sure there are enough young people going to CU.

About the Aurora area, yeah, there are some sketchy parts, but many good med schools are known to be located in the worst parts of cities, because that makes sense, you know. Also, I've heard that Denver is an amazing place to live.

Good luck making your decision!
 
Hi everyone. I recently committed to the CU MD/PhD program and can finally start to make plans (woo!). So here's my situation: I'm interested in doing my grad work in biomedical engineering, which means I would be in boulder between my first two and last two MD years. I have a few questions about housing.

I'm planning to get help from my parents to invest in a condo and I'd prefer to stay in one place throughout the program. Where do you guys think I should look for a place (aurora/denver, boulder, or somewhere in between)? I'm thinking that my phd years would be more laid back, so a commute to boulder during the off-peak hours wouldn't be so bad. How is traffic between aurora and boulder usually (keep in mind that I'm used to heavy Seattle traffic)? I looked on google maps and there are some towns like Westminster and Arvada half way between...what are these like?

Any suggestions, especially from the locals, would be great. Looking forward to meeting you all! 🙂
 
Hi everyone. I recently committed to the CU MD/PhD program and can finally start to make plans (woo!). So here's my situation: I'm interested in doing my grad work in biomedical engineering, which means I would be in boulder between my first two and last two MD years. I have a few questions about housing.

I'm planning to get help from my parents to invest in a condo and I'd prefer to stay in one place throughout the program. Where do you guys think I should look for a place (aurora/denver, boulder, or somewhere in between)? I'm thinking that my phd years would be more laid back, so a commute to boulder during the off-peak hours wouldn't be so bad. How is traffic between aurora and boulder usually (keep in mind that I'm used to heavy Seattle traffic)? I looked on google maps and there are some towns like Westminster and Arvada half way between...what are these like?

Any suggestions, especially from the locals, would be great. Looking forward to meeting you all! 🙂

Hi MSTPer, congrats on solidifying your future. I am a recent grad from Boulder (I'm not in this med school class, but I hope to be next year, so I lurk), and drove to Denver frequently during my time there (my significant other works at the Anschutz campus).
From the Boulder campus to the Aurora campus is about 45-50 mins (no traffic), and my experience has been it is easier to get to Boulder from Denver than the reverse. As for places between the two, there aren't many places along the route that are east of I25, so if I were you I would pick somewhere in east Westminster (like around Sheridan and 36?).
Both Denver and Boulder are incredible places to live, and you have easy access to both when you live in between, but don't expect too much from Westminster itself. You will pay less for rent/mortgage, but will probably feel a bit isolated, as you are a decent jog from everyone.
What sort of biomedical engineering are you going to study? I know they are working towards developing a degree-granting biomedical engineering program there (as a branch of mechanical engineering), but didn't have a concrete department to house their biomedical engineering research when I last checked (one reason why I left for the rival up north).
Congrats again on knowing your fate for the next 7-8ish years!
 
As for places between the two, there aren't many places along the route that are east of I25, so if I were you I would pick somewhere in east Westminster (like around Sheridan and 36?).
but not too far east, closer to the highway (I25) is sketchier, past the highway is Commerce City. . . uggghhh.
North Denver around 270 and Quebec is developing, too (but not quite there yet, check out the Northfield and Stapleton area), which would put you closer to the med school than Boulder, but may be worth a looksie.
 
Thanks BuffGold! This forum is great. I think I'll focus my attention on northeast Denver (Stapleton area maybe). I'd prefer to be closer to the med school...like you said, Westminster is a bit isolated. Is Northfield part of Stapleton? Does anyone know where most of the students and/or faculty live? Also, how is parking on the Aurora and boulder campuses?
 
What sort of biomedical engineering are you going to study? I know they are working towards developing a degree-granting biomedical engineering program there (as a branch of mechanical engineering), but didn't have a concrete department to house their biomedical engineering research when I last checked (one reason why I left for the rival up north).
Congrats again on knowing your fate for the next 7-8ish years!

To answer your question, I'll likely go with the chemical and biological engineering department if a separate biomedical engineering department hasn't formed by the time I need to choose.
 
MSTPer-

I'll also be going to UCHSC for MSTP. Were you at the MD/PhD revisit? Looking forward to meeting you!
 
Thanks BuffGold! This forum is great. I think I'll focus my attention on northeast Denver (Stapleton area maybe). I'd prefer to be closer to the med school...like you said, Westminster is a bit isolated. Is Northfield part of Stapleton? Does anyone know where most of the students and/or faculty live? Also, how is parking on the Aurora and boulder campuses?
Northfield is north of stapleton by a few miles. I'm not sure how much housing is there right now, it is mainly a big shopping/food area, but I think there are some condos going up.
From my GF, I think parking kinda sucks at the med school, and there isn't much in Boulder that you can reliably get a spot at without a permit. You could park on the hill for free, but that is on the wrong side of campus from the engineering center, and again, probably won't find a close spot reliably. I would say you should get a permit for the 436 lot right outside the EC (http://www.colorado.edu/parking/parking/permits/).
I am getting a masters in bioengineering right now, and I love it. The field is so broad, you will almost certainly find something you will love. I also like the focus of bioengineering towards developing feasible treatments. Sounds like fun to me!
 
MSTPer-

I'll also be going to UCHSC for MSTP. Were you at the MD/PhD revisit? Looking forward to meeting you!

Hi Dendro. No, unfortunately I missed it. I'm not doing a summer rotation since I'd like a break (I'm coming in straight from undergrad), so I guess I'll see you at the orientation.
 
Still undecided, but does anyone live in or close to Downtown Denver and could give me some links at apartments to look for? Thanks 🙂
 
ripsta- i don't live in Denver yet, but I've been looking for places and there is usually new stuff everyday on craigslist. just search using names of streets or parks or neighborhoods near downtown and you will find some stuff. hope it helps. late
 
if you want to live downtown, some neighborhoods to look into are congress park, cheesman park, city park, wash park. or the area by coors field if you're okay with a little more sketchy/urban neighborhood.

if you want to split the difference between the hospitals and live in a more suburban area, live near lowry. my husband and i live at the breakers and we like it. rent is reasonable. there is a gym with weight machines, cardio equipment, and free fitness classes. there is also a lake with a running trail around it, 1.4 miles.
 
if you want to live downtown, some neighborhoods to look into are congress park, cheesman park, city park, wash park. or the area by coors field if you're okay with a little more sketchy/urban neighborhood.

if you want to split the difference between the hospitals and live in a more suburban area, live near lowry. my husband and i live at the breakers and we like it. rent is reasonable. there is a gym with weight machines, cardio equipment, and free fitness classes. there is also a lake with a running trail around it, 1.4 miles.

which lake? Is there a lake inside the breakers?

I live off of Monaco and Leetsdale, always looking for new running paths 🙂
 
yeah, there's a lake inside the breakers, but you may have a bit of a hard time getting in here as it's a gated complex!
 
by sketchy, do you mean city like?
 
Ripsta,

Yes, I imagine that "sketchy" stands for city-like. Higher density of people from within all walks of life... both poor and well off. INcluding your garden variety of prostitutes, drug dealers, hooligans, ner-do-wellers, homeless, etc. As citys go though, Denver is really pretty clean in most respects.

Lowry: about 4-5 miles from school and from downtown. Nicer up-scale community with a small assortment of attendant boutiques and restaurants. Not much of a "night life" so probably not what you are looking for.

Stapleton: little closer to school (3-4 miles), much larger development than Lowry and more varied population. Like Lowry, mostly new constrution. Also a few restaurants nearby, but still not the center of culture for after-hour set.

I am pretty certain, based on what you've said, that "downtown" is where you'd rather set roots. Gotta remember that night life in Denver is a relative thing... YOu won't find anything like LA, or New York. But there are a pretty good assortment of clubs and wide variety of music venues.

I picked up an apartment guide (apartmentguide.com) that has a section entitled "downtown denver" but it certainly is not a complete resource. I have a couple of friends that live in a building called "Denver house" (thedenverhouse.com )located on Lincoln. It is relative very close to everything you would find important... buses, shuttles, bars, etc. and is relatively inexpensive... Mostly younger crowd living there from what I can tell. Upper floors have TERRIFIC views.

Have to admit that the Breakers is pretty cool though... almost like a "club" environment. Not certain what the demographics there are, but the pool area is HUGE-MONGOUS and very very distracting 😱to walk through during the summer. It is NOT really anywhere near the downtown haunts though.

I live in Lowry.
 
Oh, yeah, by the way.... Florida native here too.
 
by sketchy, do you mean city like?

i guess i'm not down with the lingo anymore with you young'uns. by sketchy i mean more urban, an older neighborhood with some well maintained homes, some less well maintained. not someplace i'd feel safe walking alone at night. some vacant lots, some broken glass. some new condos/townhomes. if you are young and single and want to be able to walk to bars and restaurants, it seems like it would be fun to live in lodo. however, i don't know what rent runs downtown.


five points

pelican pointe, near lowry and the breakers
 
Hey everyone,

I was going to attend school in Colorado and then just recently got off a waitlist to another school and am going there instead. Does anyone know what the last date is to get back the $200 deposit? I looked through all of my materials but couldn't find a date.
 
Hey everyone,

I was going to attend school in Colorado and then just recently got off a waitlist to another school and am going there instead. Does anyone know what the last date is to get back the $200 deposit? I looked through all of my materials but couldn't find a date.

Off the top of my head, I think it's June 30. Good luck!
 
Hi everyone,

I'm excited to be part of your class! I just wanted to introduce myself. I've lived in Colorado Springs for the past 5 years, but I'm from Florida originally.
 
Thought I'd chime in as well - I recently got in off of the waitlist and look forward to meeting you all in August! I'm just now starting the search for housing - I'm hoping to buy a loft or townhouse relatively close to campus, but not sure where to look - anyone have any suggestions? Most of the locations mentioned so far seem to be rental only.
 
Thought I'd chime in as well - I recently got in off of the waitlist and look forward to meeting you all in August! I'm just now starting the search for housing - I'm hoping to buy a loft or townhouse relatively close to campus, but not sure where to look - anyone have any suggestions? Most of the locations mentioned so far seem to be rental only.


Congratulations!....were you top or middle third of the list?...
 
Hey, new folks finally showing up. Welcome! Careful with Toughcookies--she bites.
 
Oh come on now, I only bite when provoked.

Yes, but what you're not telling them is that everything provokes you. A simple "hello" turns into a scene from "When Med Students Attack". It's why I plan to walk around in an Aussie hat with a tranquiliser gun, like that bloke in Jurassic Park.
 
So they sent out that email asking for material for the "Facebook" thing they want for orientation. Trouble is, I'm torn: go for the professional pic, or send the one of me prancing around in a thong while being chased by pygmies?
 
Finally, it's official I'm in! Can't wait to meet everyone.

Pygmies. Definitely.
 
Hey Y'all-

Do you guys know if we could find out our required books for lecture early (before orientation)? I would like to know what we need so I could buy the books online at Amazon or Ebay at a cheaper price than paying the expensive bookstore prices.
 
Hi Dendro and all,
This is my first posting on SDN. I've read a few threads here and there. I was accepted last fall to CU and attended the open house. It was a lot of fun and I look forward to seeing you all again in just a few weeks. I am married and without children. I guess I'm a non-trad-22 yom who completed a couple of masters before heading to med school (had to wait for my wife to finish her undergrad).

Regarding the books, Dendro, I had the same question. This is the response I got from Sean (admin) when I asked about books, "Books I do not recommend till the professors tell you that you must have them."

Let me know if you hear anything.

Thanks,
JA

 
Hey DocJoe-

Thanks for the response. I had a feeling we wouldn't be able to find out early. See you at orientation!

Dendro
 
Hey Y'all-

Do you guys know if we could find out our required books for lecture early (before orientation)? I would like to know what we need so I could buy the books online at Amazon or Ebay at a cheaper price than paying the expensive bookstore prices.

Hello all and congratulations to the new MSI's!

I'm an MSIII at CU and aside from your first block, you'll have a good idea what books you'll need since you'll be in contact with your MSII buddies soon after you start. Many of us also bought our books online, which is typically much cheaper than the bookstore prices.

It's been a couple of years for me, and I'm pretty sure it was the same last year, but my advise is a little dated nonetheless so take it for what it's worth...

A couple of options... you can wait to see if you can borrow books from upperclassmen, or buy them as soon as you find out specifically what is required. Also, don't buy dissection equipment as it is oftentimes given to you by MSII's. If you want to chance it, Dr. Carey gave us the option on which anatomy atlas we wanted (Grant's vs. Netters), I personally greatly favored Netter's and have used it several times after anatomy to prepare for surgeries, etc. There are a few grease-copies floating around the anatomy lab of both for reference, but you'll need your own. Gray's Anatomy for students was recommended and there was recommended assigned reading, but many students said that they either never or rarely got to the readings because there just wasn't time. I really liked it, but it'll depend on you. Don't buy a dissection manual because there are grease-copies in the anatomy labs and everything is provided on a computer at your dissection station. I think that we also had a histology book and an embryology book that I recommend borrowing instead of buying as you'll most likely never use again unless you have serious issues that you need to be medicated for.
 
Hey Medicalbound,
Sounds like you're going into surgery...How's third year treating u?
JA
 
Hey Medicalbound,
Sounds like you're going into surgery...How's third year treating u?
JA

Third year has been pretty good so far. Surgery is on the list, but I still haven't made up my mind even after my surgery rotation. I changed my preceptor to a general surgeon at the end of my first year, so I've been able spend quite a bit of time in the OR trying to make up my mind. Emergency medicine is still near the top too. But I digress...

You all are in for a great ride! Cram in as much sleep, movies, dates, or whatever you can in these last couple of weeks so you're fresh and ready to go when classes start.

I may meet some of you during your orientation. I'm on the steering committee for the All 'Bout Couples group (for those of you with spouses/significant others), and will probably continue to be involved with the Emergency Medicine Interest Group at some capacity.
 
Third year has been pretty good so far. Surgery is on the list, but I still haven't made up my mind even after my surgery rotation. I changed my preceptor to a general surgeon at the end of my first year, so I've been able spend quite a bit of time in the OR trying to make up my mind. Emergency medicine is still near the top too. But I digress...

You all are in for a great ride! Cram in as much sleep, movies, dates, or whatever you can in these last couple of weeks so you're fresh and ready to go when classes start.

I may meet some of you during your orientation. I'm on the steering committee for the All 'Bout Couples group (for those of you with spouses/significant others), and will probably continue to be involved with the Emergency Medicine Interest Group at some capacity.

What are the benefits of joining some of the interest groups? 1) Are they personally beneficial? 2) Are they professionally beneficial?

What is your advice for maintaining a marriage during med school?
 
What are the benefits of joining some of the interest groups? 1) Are they personally beneficial? 2) Are they professionally beneficial?

What is your advice for maintaining a marriage during med school?

The groups can be beneficial for support (ABC for example), and the others can be great to get to know attendings/mentors which can help you find research opportunities, preceptors, or simply learn more about the various specialties. The vast majority of the groups do not require mandatory meeting attendence, assignments, ect, so are a very low commitment, but offer lots of options that you can participate in if you wish. It's a different story, of course, if you decide to be part of the leadership of the groups. Here's what I've experienced...

I joined the Surgical Society during my first year. They have a few good workshops that were fun such as surgical knot tying, a hands-on laparascopic workshop, a workshop for identifying surgical instruments, and a preceptor for a day program to follow surgery attendings or residents. The attending I was paired with allowed me to scrub-in and assist on a 6-hour abdominal surgery the first day. I ended up choosing him as my preceptor, and doing my MSA project with him. I've now got two publications pending and more on the way, a trip to Carmel to present my research, with lots of great surgery experience along the way.

I joined the Emergency Medicine Interest Group (EMIG) during my MSI orientation and was on the steering committee for my MSII year. They are by far one of the most active student groups on campus. Suture clinics, intubation/chest tube/thoracotomy clinics using cadavers, IV/blood draw clinics, EKG night, hands-on ultrasound workshops, etc. Regardless of what specialty you ultimately go into, the workshops are great experiences. You get to know the attendings really well and have contacts to use later.

Lastly, I joined the All 'Bout Couples (ABC) group my first year and was on the steering committee 2nd year and beyond. My wife enjoys the fellowship with the other med school spouses. They meet often and can lean on each other when things get tough. Most of the really active members have kiddos, but we're really trying to expand the activities to better accommodate the significant others without kids.

Your last question about maintaining a marriage is difficult to answer. The overarching suggestion is to keep it a priority. I know that sounds trite, but there's just so much that goes into it (regardless of medical school for that matter). We will send out an announcement that there will be a spouse/significant-other orientation while you guys are at your orientation retreat (or right before so that the couples can attend together). We'll try to address the real concerns of the rigorous training in as uplifting of a manner as possible.

Okay, I've procrastinated from studying long enough, back to it...
 
that was an awesome answer. thanks.
 
Woo boy, we're getting close now! I'll be moving up to Denver in about a week!
 
Woo boy, we're getting close now! I'll be moving up to Denver in about a week!

I'm headin' up on Wednesday! It seems so soon and I have a ton of stuff to finish before then. I've been melting under the sun trying to finish vinyl siding and get packed...How's your moving experience thus far?
 
The groups can be beneficial for support (ABC for example), and the others can be great to get to know attendings/mentors which can help you find research opportunities, preceptors, or simply learn more about the various specialties. The vast majority of the groups do not require mandatory meeting attendence, assignments, ect, so are a very low commitment, but offer lots of options that you can participate in if you wish. It's a different story, of course, if you decide to be part of the leadership of the groups. Here's what I've experienced...

I joined the Surgical Society during my first year. They have a few good workshops that were fun such as surgical knot tying, a hands-on laparascopic workshop, a workshop for identifying surgical instruments, and a preceptor for a day program to follow surgery attendings or residents. The attending I was paired with allowed me to scrub-in and assist on a 6-hour abdominal surgery the first day. I ended up choosing him as my preceptor, and doing my MSA project with him. I've now got two publications pending and more on the way, a trip to Carmel to present my research, with lots of great surgery experience along the way.

I joined the Emergency Medicine Interest Group (EMIG) during my MSI orientation and was on the steering committee for my MSII year. They are by far one of the most active student groups on campus. Suture clinics, intubation/chest tube/thoracotomy clinics using cadavers, IV/blood draw clinics, EKG night, hands-on ultrasound workshops, etc. Regardless of what specialty you ultimately go into, the workshops are great experiences. You get to know the attendings really well and have contacts to use later.

Lastly, I joined the All 'Bout Couples (ABC) group my first year and was on the steering committee 2nd year and beyond. My wife enjoys the fellowship with the other med school spouses. They meet often and can lean on each other when things get tough. Most of the really active members have kiddos, but we're really trying to expand the activities to better accommodate the significant others without kids.

Your last question about maintaining a marriage is difficult to answer. The overarching suggestion is to keep it a priority. I know that sounds trite, but there's just so much that goes into it (regardless of medical school for that matter). We will send out an announcement that there will be a spouse/significant-other orientation while you guys are at your orientation retreat (or right before so that the couples can attend together). We'll try to address the real concerns of the rigorous training in as uplifting of a manner as possible.

Okay, I've procrastinated from studying long enough, back to it...


Hey, thanks for the great review. I was reading through the student guide and was wondering what your thoughts were on going for one of the elected positions. Is it worth it for the co-pres spot or one of the others? I want to study medicine and do not want to be a social director, but if the positions are beneficial to the class and worthwhile to hold, then it would be worth it...maybe

JA
 
I'm headin' up on Wednesday! It seems so soon and I have a ton of stuff to finish before then. I've been melting under the sun trying to finish vinyl siding and get packed...How's your moving experience thus far?

Pretty effortless so far, as my stuff is in storage while I stay with friends. There was a break between my old apartment lease and the day my new apartment will be finished, so I've spent the time trying to remember how to relax! I grabbed one of the new apartments at 21 Fitzsimmons, so I'm seriously thinking about selling my car once I get up there. Did you manage to find somewhere close to campus?
 
Hey, thanks for the great review. I was reading through the student guide and was wondering what your thoughts were on going for one of the elected positions. Is it worth it for the co-pres spot or one of the others? I want to study medicine and do not want to be a social director, but if the positions are beneficial to the class and worthwhile to hold, then it would be worth it...maybe

JA

The co-presidents were pretty active for my class. Many of the other positions require a lot less time (I think). I also thought about running for one of the elected positions, but decided not to, as there are several other ways to be involved in leadership positions, and I wanted to see how things shook out after I started. In retrospect, I'm glad I did not, as it probably would have prevented me from doing other things that I later found I truly wanted to do (for lack of time). If you decide to run for a contested position, you'll be asked to give a short speech during your orientation retreat. Several of the positions are open for re-election during your MSII year if you decide to do it then instead/as well. Since I did not hold one of the positions, you'll have to take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I'm happy that I pursued other options. Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do! There are no shortage of opportunities that will present to you during your schooling.
 
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