University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 4

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Happy New Year to everyone!

And congrats to you, jwax.
 
Wow... who here thought Kansas would beat VT and OU would lose to the Mountaineers?

What a crazy season!


On a related note, WVU is one of the places I plan to apply to for residency.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
West Virginia's pretty. I probably wouldn't mind being there either.

So we'll get the Tulsa choice email today. Wow, that's soon. Now I'm worried more than 50 people will sign up.
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Seriously, Tulsa's not THAT cool 🙄 I think we had the biggest Tulsa class yet, and they still didn't force anybody to go to OKC, so I wouldn't worry. Besides, Tulsa's trying to get their own med school... I don't think they'd help their case by not being able to handle 51 of you 😉
 
WhoisJohnGalt said:
Seriously, Tulsa's not THAT cool 🙄 I think we had the biggest Tulsa class yet, and they still didn't force anybody to go to OKC, so I wouldn't worry. Besides, Tulsa's trying to get their own med school... I don't think they'd help their case by not being able to handle 51 of you 😉
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Yeah, you're right. It would be very surprising if they went over. It's just so much easier to stay in OKC, and it might be a better option if you want the super prestigious residencies.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
Yeah, you're right. It would be very surprising if they went over. It's just so much easier to stay in OKC, and it might be a better option if you want the super prestigious residencies.
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It's the student that gets the prestigious residencies. Both OKC and Tulsa students have had stellar match lists. If you're a potential AOA student that is good clinically you'll excel at Tulsa or OKC. Do what works best from a financial standpoint. I bought a house in Moore and didn't want to move. I'd venture to say that most of the folks that choose Tulsa just have deeper roots there.
 
So, is it worth it to buy the Neuroscience text book?

I have a previous hand-me-down edition of the Haines atlas, but didn't know if it is worth the dough to get the text. I have some other hand me down neuro books that I could possibly draw from if needed.

I seem to learn better from the review books + syllabus, so I would prefer to spend my money on the review books which I can use again for board study.
 
soonereng said:
So, is it worth it to buy the Neuroscience text book?

I have a previous hand-me-down edition of the Haines atlas, but didn't know if it is worth the dough to get the text. I have some other hand me down neuro books that I could possibly draw from if needed.

I seem to learn better from the review books + syllabus, so I would prefer to spend my money on the review books which I can use again for board study.
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I bought a neuro text off a recently graduated resident and only used it for one thing that I could have gotten from the syllabus. A review text is great for physiology, but neuro's syllabus is all you need unless Blair has changed a lot.
 
Yep, didn't buy the neuro book and still made an A. The syllabus has everything you need to know. Costanzo's phys book is excellent, though, so I highly recommend getting that.
 
If I remember right, there was a Haines paperback spiral bound neuro atlas that had giant x-sections of all the brain and spinal cord layers. I used it a fair bit.

The big neuro atlas sat unwrapped all semester and made a great book-end for the other books that I actually did use.

Bottom line, for 2nd sem. of MS1, you need the neuro syllabus, and the blue BRS physiology book. That's about it.
 
oudoc08 said:
If I remember right, there was a Haines paperback spiral bound neuro atlas that had giant x-sections of all the brain and spinal cord layers. I used it a fair bit.

The big neuro atlas sat unwrapped all semester and made a great book-end for the other books that I actually did use.

Bottom line, for 2nd sem. of MS1, you need the neuro syllabus, and the blue BRS physiology book. That's about it.
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Thanks to you as well.
 
So I don't want this semester to start. It seems like they're going to take it somewhat easy on us academically -- HB has to be an easier sub than MMI -- but I have a feeling we're going to have lots of busywork with PCM and the ethics class. 👎 Yes, I'm lazy. 😳
 
Doctor Bagel said:
So I don't want this semester to start. It seems like they're going to take it somewhat easy on us academically -- HB has to be an easier sub than MMI -- but I have a feeling we're going to have lots of busywork with PCM and the ethics class. 👎 Yes, I'm lazy. 😳
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Ditto. I've had this creepy feeling of something dark and sinister getting closer...I think it's the whole 'going back' thing. 🙁
 
Doctor Bagel said:
So I don't want this semester to start. It seems like they're going to take it somewhat easy on us academically -- HB has to be an easier sub than MMI -- but I have a feeling we're going to have lots of busywork with PCM and the ethics class. 👎 Yes, I'm lazy. 😳
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For MS2s the schedule is purposefully less busy.



Do you know when you're taking Step 1 yet? :meanie:
 
Doctor Bagel said:
Lol, no. 😱 I do need to send them my $500. 😡 Didn't you take it somewhere around June 20? Any recommendations?
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I took it around the middle of June. (15th I think). Gave me a good month study as well as 2-3 weeks off before 3rd yr. Good plan in retrospect.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
Lol, no. 😱 I do need to send them my $500. 😡 Didn't you take it somewhere around June 20? Any recommendations?
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I took mine on June 13. I had 3 and 1/2 weeks after finals to study, and then about 2 and 1/2 weeks of vacation before third year started. I kind of wished I had taken it about a week earlier because I started to hit a wall where I really really didn't want to read any more review books. Like so many things your studying will naturally expand to fill the time allotted. Unless you're just excessively neurotic, don't wait too long to get it done. If you prepare properly for IHI and pharmacology you'll have a large chunk of your prep work done by finals.
 
Well, I just went ahead and paid them my $480. Those fees have to be especially irritating 4th year when you've got two tests to pay for. Hmm, maybe the week of June 16 would work. That gives me 4 weeks of straight board prep and enough time after to move and get a vacation in.

Bleh, this is gonna suck. :scared:
 
I took a week of vacation right after finals to go hang out with my college buddies, then I studied for 4-5 weeks, then took step 1 on June 23rd, and still had a few more weeks of vacation to go to Vegas with my hubby and then relax a little before school started. I definitely endorse that plan-- it was really great to cushion the studying with fun vacations on both sides!!
 
😡
Time to go back. uggghhh.
And I was just gettin used to watching google.video all day 😉
I've been sentenced to notegroups for the very first class on the first day back. So much for putting off my return. 🙄
 
Doctor Bagel said:
The good news is that histo isn't very challenging.
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I tend to take statements like this with a grain of salt. Similar things were said about HB, but those exams ended up being my worst ones. Hopefully you're right, though.
 
shortitalian said:
I tend to take statements like this with a grain of salt. Similar things were said about HB, but those exams ended up being my worst ones. Hopefully you're right, though.
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Werd. Bagel's a genius, so nothing is really that challenging for her.

As an aside, my advice for neuro would be to *know the pictures in the syllabus* despite Dr. Blair telling you not to memorize them, and I said as much in my feedback of the course last year. It might just be my style of learning/memorizing, but I could consolidate info much better in my dome by being able to reproduce diagrams from the syllabus on cue and be able to talk about it in my own way, than trying to memorize the 2 pages of text describing the diagram; I know I can't be the only one that thinks this way. Other advice would be to use a few different sources for things like pathways; they don't all show them in the same way or describe them the same so one might stick better. BRS Neuro, while regarded as generally useless otherwise, lays out the tracts pretty well. The links from hippo that are similar to the anatomy project are pretty good too, and key for anything O'Don tests over (at a minimum...). Don't bother buying anything just for that reason, but someone might have a book you don't; take a peek at it. But being able to think spatially and picture where the different bundles all go is probably as important as anything. Have fun 👍😀

Even further advice, if you short-term memorize the tracts and nuclei in the spinal cord and brainstem for block I, don't forget them for the other 2...

Oh, and congrats to all the MSII's that overcame their TB 3 trials and tribulations and did well. The avgs looked good...:barf:
 
Amxcvbcv said:
Wow... who here thought Kansas would beat VT and OU would lose to the Mountaineers?

What a crazy season!


On a related note, WVU is one of the places I plan to apply to for residency.
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i know im a little late on this post...but me too Nick...ive heard WVU is beautiful


hey what are you on now? Im starting out with neuro :barf: then 2 weeks of anes in okc 😀
 
shortitalian said:
I tend to take statements like this with a grain of salt. Similar things were said about HB, but those exams ended up being my worst ones. Hopefully you're right, though.
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Well, you know what a fatalist I am. Histo is not a big deal - just don't wait until the last night to start studying the Iowa slides, 'cause you'll get scr*wed if the site goes down. For us, I don't recall it ever going completely down as it had done in past years, but there were times it was so slow that it might as well have been crashed. If someone in your class prepares 80 meg word files of all the images, make sure you have that around as a back-up for studying (as well as enough RAM to load it or your poor little virtual memory will thrash your hard drive to death). The other source, "HistoTime", annoyed me but I still had a purloined copy on my hard drive for study at home. Don't blow off Weichmann's reviews - he tends to tip his hand on which HistoTime images he intends to use.

Weichmann's tests are not terribly difficult, but I found them frustrating. To me, he is not nearly as precise in his use of language when he writes a question as most other instructors (unlike Dr. Blair, who choses every word very carefully). Fortunately, Weichmann caves-in early and often when his bad questions are challenged, so don't freak over your raw score - it will tend to go up.
 
Also, just for computer geek info, the last time I worked with the Iowa site, using Java 2.0 caused the site to run at something less than a snail's pace. I had to roll back to an earlier Java release, and then the performance was fine. Hopefully they've fixed it by now, but they couldn't figure out the problem for the several months that I was paying attention.
 
I thought the Iowa site worked especially well with Firefox, which always makes me happy. I had the losers who only design sites for Explorer 'cause we don't all run that piece of junk. Aside from the whole crashing issues, I'd vote for looking at the images earlier just because it's not a hard thing to do, they're easy points and it's something you pick up on better if you don't do it at the last minute.

And speaking of memorizing images, Freeze is right that those neuro images are something you'll want to know the whole term (and probably still know for boards). So my one big piece of advice is to learn brainstem sections well. What worked for me was to do a little at a time -- I'd study something else and then go back and quiz myself on one brainstem image and then repeat. Sitting down and trying to memorize them all at once would be overwhelming.
 
I think everyone should get to go on a honeymoon for a week at least once a year. It was lovely. Coming back to school is ridiculously painful. I have always been extremely happy to be in med school, even when I am hateful about studying. Right now, I feel a little bit hateful of being in med school... I want to resume walking the beach, nice dinners, and visiting touristy spots for the rest of my life. Screw this "work/job/career" crap. Honeymoon forever...

Anyways, back to reality. The wedding was wonderful and the honeymoon was amazing. Married life = better than engaged life so far. I just wish we didn't already have so much to learn! And our classes seem really difficult this semester. I'd like to do better this semester than last, but I think phys and neuro are going to wipe the floor with me. So will histo, actually...

What's funny is I don't think I complained at all about anything while we were on our honeymoon, but I've already resumed a constant state of whining since I got up at 6 this morning to go to class. 🙄 Oh, well. The last week and a half of my life has been WONDERFUL! 😀 🙂
 
:barf:

This is what I have been doing all morning. Is there anything they could do for me at the student clinic if I have a stomach virus? I'm thinking no and a vomiting drive to campus doesn't sound like fun if it doesn't get me any help...

🙁
 
Jwax said:
:barf:

This is what I have been doing all morning. Is there anything they could do for me at the student clinic if I have a stomach virus? I'm thinking no and a vomiting drive to campus doesn't sound like fun if it doesn't get me any help...

🙁
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Personally I wouldn't bother to go in unless it continues. Just drink lots of fluids and don't study much.

So I noticed you guys are going to have TBLs every week in neuro and phys and part of your grade is based on peer-evaluations. 😱
 
Ditto to what Doctor Bagel said.

Yeah, I'm not too thrilled about mandatory TBLs since I always detested them in the first place. Well, I guess I disliked the smug, self-righteous clinicians who talked over our head the most. I don't think this should be too bad, as long as they remember to give us a 10 min. break. :meanie:
 
Doctor Bagel said:
So I noticed you guys are going to have TBLs every week in neuro and phys and part of your grade is based on peer-evaluations. 😱
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Yep, four hours of TBL most Fridays.

Dr. Blair mentioned the $250 prize for getting the highest grade in the class, and someone asked about the ethics of giving a monetary prize for a class where part of your grade (peer evaluations) is controlled by other students. Dr. Blair just laughed and shrugged his shoulders.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
blah blah blah, Freeze was right, blah blah blah
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😀👍

I got my packet of neuro drawrings back out this morning and put them in my IHI binder; somehow, I see knowing them as still useful. I guess more what I was referring to were the line drawings interspersed throughout the syllabus, the ones that look like wiring diagrams for a Honda Prius. Without a whiteboard, a generous smattering of dry-erase colors, and those pictures, I woulda been lost. But yeah, the ones that look like they'll show up on the practical, I'd learn those 😀 and don't forget the ones that you learn for the first block. If it didn't get asked the first time, it'll show up later...

I had IOWA issues, but that had something to do with Java, because I had issues with other stuff simultaneously. I was neurotic enough though to have window-captured every image already.

I also found this yesterday, for you residents of Mactopia that want to view broadcast lectures from home: https://hippocrates.ouhsc.edu/Viewing%20Mediasite%20Presentations%20on%20a%20Macintosh.pdf
 
Jwax said:
:barf:

This is what I have been doing all morning. Is there anything they could do for me at the student clinic if I have a stomach virus? I'm thinking no and a vomiting drive to campus doesn't sound like fun if it doesn't get me any help...

🙁
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They could give you shot of Zofran or a Compazine suppository. =)

Other than that, not much.
 
Doctor Bagel said:
So I noticed you guys are going to have TBLs every week in neuro and phys...
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Yeah, and I'm pretty pi$$ed about it. 😡 Stupid new 2010 curriculum!

If not for that, I wouldn't have to come to school at all on M or F, which would make me all the more productive study-wise, not to mention the commute.

I was looking at the old EBM syllabus, and it looked like attendance was either mandatory or a portion of the grade, is that right?
 
soonereng said:
Yeah, and I'm pretty pi$$ed about it. 😡 Stupid new 2010 curriculum!

If not for that, I wouldn't have to come to school at all on M or F, which would make me all the more productive study-wise, not to mention the commute.

I was looking at the old EBM syllabus, and it looked like attendance was either mandatory or a portion of the grade, is that right?
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Yeah, I guess it really sucks for you with the long commute and all. I'd be mad, too.

Attendance was mandatory for EBM the year before us, but it wasn't for us. However, we had quizzes and assignments due in about half the sessions, so you had to go to those. 👎 Easy class, but I'm glad I'm not taking it again.
 
Amxcvbcv said:
They could give you shot of Zofran or a Compazine suppository. =)

Other than that, not much.
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I survived. I stopped throwing up right before I posted that and managed to not throw up again. I've spent the whole day laying in bed half-heartedly watching TV, wishing I could be doing anything, including studying, instead of feeling like I was going to vomit all day long. Miserable. I started feeling better around 7 or 8, and I managed to eat a bowl of soup a half an hour ago. I just wish I could recover all day tomorrow instead of going to Childrens ER and the donor appreciation thing.

I'm just as annoyed about the required friday 8am classes semester long. Painful.

Time to watch some lectures that I missed today. 👍
 
Jwax said:
I just wish I could recover all day tomorrow instead of going to Childrens ER and the donor appreciation thing.
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But hey, if you go to the donor memorial thingy, you get to hear me play trumpet 👍
 
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