University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 4

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It may not be as easy, but it certainly is a more valuable use of time. 🙂 I'm a little jealous... but not quite jealous enough. 😉

Finally finally figured out how to study pharm. Flashcards and the memorize it mantra are great and all, but they don't work so well for the introductory principles. Reading notegroups + syllabus = comprehension and ~retention. Flashcards will come in to play once I actually reach the drugs... unfortunately this insight came after I had already put some time in to just trying to make sense out of the syllabus alone, which is lacking in descriptions of some of the diagrams, so I'm getting to repeat prior efforts. Boo.

Stalker that I am, I checked out the Class of '12's composite to see how many of our class got held back a year. It looks like only 2 as far as I can tell. So either we only lost 2 or only 2 of however many we lost wanted to / were able to repeat. How many does each class usually lose?
Personally, I think you're on the right track for studying pharm. As I mentioned, I was always terrified that I wouldn't know some drug, but that was never the problem. I never missed one single test question (okay, mebbe 1 or 2 over the course of a year) because I didn't recognize a drug - it was always because I hadn't studied the syllabus quite enough and didn't know some screwball side effect or off-label indication that they expected us to know.

As far as class losses go, I would guess 2 is the exact middle. Sometimes it's academics, sometimes personal issues, often personal issues causing academic issues. Funny, but I personally don't know of any cases where somebody didn't come back after summer - my class had 1 person who left at Christmas break, but that was a long-planned decision that everybody knew about. OU wants everybody to graduate and, of course, that big ol' pile of debt that will be impossible to pay off without a physician's salary is a pretty powerful incentive to go on, even after just 1 year.
 
Always makes me cringe. I don't feel like doors should be closed for me since I worked in a medical job this summer and did some volunteering instead of doing research.
Don't feel bad. I'm not going to have any research, either. I plan to practice rather than going into research - so I don't expect to be hurt too badly except at the very tip-top residencies located God-only-knows-where.

In my case, my former employer offered to take me back as a temporary employee at my same hourly rate of pay as when I was a CPA with over ten years of seniority. Hmmm... old rate of pay - or washing beakers in order to put research on my resume. It was NOT a tough decision, especially with a mortgage and no financial support over the summer. Not that I enjoyed it - going back to being a CPA for the summer was worse than I expected - but it certainly did pay the bills (and I did enjoy being back with my old homies in the office in my department).
 
Don't feel bad. I'm not going to have any research, either. I plan to practice rather than going into research - so I don't expect to be hurt too badly except at the very tip-top residencies located God-only-knows-where.

Amen 👍
 
😱 I could spend the next week studying MMI alone. What's super fun about that is First Aid only has ~13 pages devoted to immunology. 👍

Our professors absolutely crack me up. I loved Dr. Blair's one-time lecture to us; I think he was my favorite from last year. Dr. Koss is hilarious. The crack about "if you don't get this you are going to flounder...... like the fish.... with a dilated eye" and the one about stopping and looking at baked goods causing salivation but not an erection. Then there is Dr. Holliman. I hope they stay this entertaining throughout the year.
 
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wooh! I hate life.

Anyone else getting interview invites yet and freaking out at just how much it's going to cost? And how to still manage to do rtoations while interviewing instead of wasting vacation on it? Because I am.

Random thoughts

Step 2 CK - Used Qbank and Crush mostly, started using First Aid about 5 days before the test. I was very happy with qbank and was not impressed by USMLEworld either for step 1 or for step 2. That's just me though. Crush is NOT ENOUGH if you want to blow the top off this exam. It is enough to be below average to maybe slightly above average. If you are the kind who can learn off questions, it would probably be workable to first study crush and then go to questions. I was very vocally not a fan of First Aid for Step 1. On the other hand I thought First Aid for Step 2CK was brilliant. I would wager I got a 10-15 point bump in my score because I started using that book. Possibly could've been more if I started studying with it earlier. I can't complain about my score though, which was a lot better than I feared.

Use the NBME practice tests. They are a far better indicator of how you're doing than the qbanks (although qbanks are invaluable learning aids).

Plan on studying for a month or so. This will not need to be dedicated studying a la step 1, but a few hours every night. Do questions while watching TV every night. This will prevent burnout while letting you eke out a bit more study time.

If you weren't happy with your step 1 score, plan on taking the test no later than mid-August. It takes 3 weeks to get your scores in. Interview decisions will start being made 2nd week of September. You do the math.

Step 2 is much more intuitive and based on problem solving than Step 1. For many this will help you out tons. If you didn't do very well on Step 1, you can save yourself with Step 2. PDs have said that a significantly higher Step 2 score can all but erase a poor Step 1 showing. They understand that medical school is a growing process, and that a high step 2 and good clinical evals show you are in fact a different person than the step 1 results indicate. They also realize step 2 is about 90000000 times more relevant to clinical medicine.

what you want to do - People will tell you that it's ok to take your time in figuring things out. That is both true and not true. It is certainly ok not to know what you want to do early in third year. Not so ok by the end. This is especially true if you plan on either a) getting into a highly competitive specialty b) going to a top tier program in any residency (I'm going psych, at some of these places, the competitive applicants look no different from competitive ROAD applicants) c) being very selective in geographical location.

It is hard to know if you like something before you've gotten a taste of it, but there are good ways of getting an idea. First Aid for the Match has synopses of various specialties. Iserson's Getting into a Residency is an even better handbook and I'd recommend all third years get a copy as soon as possible. A little pricey at 35 bucks, but covers EVERY question you might have and especially invaluable for people at the 'i don't have a f***ing clue' stage.

Talk to residents, show up for grand rounds, etc. of any specialty you're interested in. The clinical mentor program we have is also useful as the physicians who volunteer are more than happy to discuss their specialties with you and setup shadowing opportunities that you can often do DURING your rotations (the weight of a faculty member often helps you get an excuse from showing up to afternoon activities etc).

research - Some people don't want to research. I'm not one of them, so I did a fair amount of research during med school. I needed to prove that I really was committed to research since I claimed to be. At the same time, research will really strengthen your application especially if you are applying for hospital-based specialties and have less than stellar GPA, scores or CV. This goes double for those of you applying for specialties that command beaucoup NIH dollars.

For those of you who abhor research and are really wondering if you need it, or if it would improve your chances, look at it this way. Being successful in residency doesn't really correlate that well to test scores, pre-clinical grades, or much of anything that is objectively measured. A successful resident is a hard worker (i.e. will help a team be efficient) who isn't afraid to study to do what needs to be done (i.e. pass step 3 and professional boards).

Research experience, and especially completed research projects that have been submitted, presented, and/or pubished prove that you are a hard enough worker to take on the responsibilities of 3rd year AND research at the same time, that you have the dedication to see a project through to completion, and that since you'll be the lowest dude or dudette on the totem pole, you will put up with scut. As an added bonus, if your research is in the field that you are applying to, it means that the PD knows you have some education in the specialty that many other applicants may lack if that specialty is not a part of the core curriculum.

letters - make your prospective letter writer decisions as early as possible. And seek to make as strong a relationship with these people as possible. You want at the very least one letter from your specialty, but the more the merrier.

Another thing to keep in mind is that some specialties want letters from the chair of the department. Meet with them as early as possible, and have something on your CV that indicates you are actually interested in that specialty.

Finally, many competitive specialties want a letter from the dept of medicine, regardless of the actual specialty. This could've been an issue for me if i'd applied to one of those specialties, for reasons I won't detail, but suffice to say that you can't pick your attendings, and some are less than ideal when it comes to evaluating you. For you guys, you need to do something in Medicine or an IM specialty your very first month or two of 4th year. a medicine sub-I or some other rotation like cardiac critical care or GI is pretty much mandatory. Get out there, prove you know your crap and get that letter. That way you can still have that all-important medicine letter ready in time for the ERAS opening date on Septemer 1st.

Good luck everyone and feel free to PM me if you got questions.
 
wooh! I hate life.

Anyone else getting interview invites yet and freaking out at just how much it's going to cost? And how to still manage to do rtoations while interviewing instead of wasting vacation on it? Because I am.

Great info. I wish I'd listened more to the people saying wait a bit or at least study some for Step 2. I fell into the trap of listening to people that said not to worry for Step 2 CK and just get it done. So... I passed, but it wasn't as high as I wanted it to be. I requested my transcript from USMLE before it posted, so hopefully it's not on there and if they ask, I can just say I passed. 😛

Anyway...

My wife said I could spend up to $7000 on interviews. 😀 I don't have any invites yet. 🙁
 
My wife said I could spend up to $7000 on interviews. 😀 I don't have any invites yet. 🙁

:wow: Egads that's a lot of money. Where the heck are we supposed to come up with that? As far as I remember, they don't really give us extra money for 4th year expenses, right?
 
:wow: Egads that's a lot of money. Where the heck are we supposed to come up with that? As far as I remember, they don't really give us extra money for 4th year expenses, right?

There are private loan programs for 4th year students to cover this stuff -- or at least there were -- who knows what'll happen with those in the future with our current financial crisis. Otherwise, nope, the school doesn't (can't) budget you more money for those.
 
It's called planning ahead. 😛

For that much of an expendible cash fund, I would have needed to start planning three years ago. Now that our wedding is over and we've got all the computer equipment we need, we are actually able to start saving up this year. I was hoping to spend the savings on paying off the car loan though, not interviewing. 🙁 Boo. I'll keep this unfortunate reality in the back of my mind, but otherwise I think I'll keep my consciousness in denial of the financial plights ahead.
 
:wow: Egads that's a lot of money. Where the heck are we supposed to come up with that? As far as I remember, they don't really give us extra money for 4th year expenses, right?

This simply shows the utter and complete bassackwardsness of the medical field. Every other industry where one is invited to interview in a different state, the employer foots that bill. Remember, as much as we are interviewing for further training, it's also a JOB INTERVIEW. I NEVER went to a job interview in my former career on my own dime if it was any significant distance away.

If you don't think the institutions will be making money off of you, you are kidding yourself. That same hospital that you will be working 80 hrs/wk for pays their midlevel providers who work 40 hrs/wk double to triple what you will make as a resident and they have less training than you have as a newly minted MD.

Along with the incessantly escalating tuition and the probably antitrust violating match system that Teddy Kennedy protected by slipping lawsuit protection clause for the match into some random bill, the physician training system really needs to be overhauled. An honest days pay for an honest days work...yeah right.

I'm declaring my candidacy for 2020. Soonereng for President!
 
This simply shows the utter and complete bassackwardsness of the medical field. Every other industry where one is invited to interview in a different state, the employer foots that bill. Remember, as much as we are interviewing for further training, it's also a JOB INTERVIEW. I NEVER went to a job interview in my former career on my own dime if it was any significant distance away.

If you don't think the institutions will be making money off of you, you are kidding yourself. That same hospital that you will be working 80 hrs/wk for pays their midlevel providers who work 40 hrs/wk double to triple what you will make as a resident and they have less training than you have as a newly minted MD.

Along with the incessantly escalating tuition and the probably antitrust violating match system that Teddy Kennedy protected by slipping lawsuit protection clause for the match into some random bill, the physician training system really needs to be overhauled. An honest days pay for an honest days work...yeah right.

I'm declaring my candidacy for 2020. Soonereng for President!

👍 Seems like a good time to mention that I know a person in our class who has ample parental assistance and grades that are at most marginally better than my own received a scholarship. Not a URM either. 😕 There are many of us who receive no financial support, many of whom I am sure have a 4.0, who have not got a scholarship. How that is fair or in any way appropriate, I have no idea. 👎

After finally catching up in pharm, I do not hate it as much as stated prior. I am not in love with it, but it isn't as bad as biochem. That intro section w/dose response curves & H-H equation threw me for a loop. The rest of the stuff is doable.
 
the scholarship system is indeed bogus. Oh well.
I'm not sure that it's fair to call the scholarship system "bogus" just because it has an intangible component to it. If your interviewers recommend you to the committee for a scholarship, you're considered. If they don't recommend you, you aren't considered. Depends on the impression you made and your interviewers' "gut instinct" about you. Kinda like clinical evaluations - some of it you can control, some of it you can't. Financial need is really not a big consideration, either - from everything I've seen, the first year scholarship is more of a recruiting tool.

And, yes, I was on substantial scholarship grants from OU for years 1 and 2. Maybe they felt sorry for me 'cause I'm old - dunno. On a serious note, I think they valued the diversity that I brought to the table and that had nothing to do with grades or financial support. I certainly know my mother isn't giving me any kickbacks out of her social security checks (okay, she has flown me to Palm Springs a couple of times, but I think that was because I was so stressed she wanted to get rid of me for a week).
 
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oh no I'm sticking to what I said.

Just because it's a messed up system doesn't mean that some of the recipients aren't worthy of it. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. I'm just saying that looking at it, I can find no rhyme or reason behind why some got scholarships and some did not.

Mommy doesn't help me out either. Well I lie, I raid her fridge every weekend. And now and then she shoves twenty bucks in my hand, kicks me out of the house and tells me not to come back until I've gotten a haircut. But that's about it.
 
Does what Tweten said about the increasing resistance of bugs to antibiotics freak anyone else out? I don't think I realized how bad off we were. I certainly didn't realize that they weren't really working on any new solutions. I can easily see in antibiotics becoming a myth of the past in 10+ years and no way to treat patients (our ourselves!) suffering from infections. :scared: Or am I taking this too seriously?
 
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Does what Tweten said about the increasing resistance of bugs to antibiotics freak anyone else out? I don't think I realized how bad off we were. I certainly didn't realize that they weren't really working on any new solutions. I can easily see in antibiotics becoming a myth of the past in 10+ years and no way to treat patients (our ourselves!) suffering from infections. :scared: Or am I taking this too seriously?

Probably not taking it seriously enough.

Remind me to write a post on the salmon ladder of superbugs sometime.

We live in the perfect environment for superbugs. And it's mostly things we do (or fail to do) that cause it.
 
I'm puzzled by the scholarship thing because the OKC dean (Andrews) said last year that everyone who applied got something. But I heard from you guys that that's not true. 😕 It seems to me like OU gives out a decent amount of scholarships, but the amounts are generally pretty small.

I'm so lazy -- I don't want to go to clinic today even though FM clinic is ridiculously laid back.
 
unless Indians are no longer considered people, I can definitely say that Dean Andrews was lying. Of course, what do you expect? As an Executive Dean he's basically a politician.
 
Do you guys happen to remember if the autonomic demo was worth going to last year? I can't tell if they are going to record it or not, and I'm trying decide if it is worth screwing with my schedule to go. What live creature are they using for this demo (if they are using one)? He hasn't really given us any details about it other than most people usually come.
 
It is a recording of a live experiment on a dog that was done years ago. He was a prof of my dad's in the mid-80's, and he remembered seeing this, so it is at least that old. You WILL see stuff similar to what is illustrated in this lecture, both now and on the final. Everybody learns in their own way, but I certainly wouldn't call it useless.
 
I thought the demo session was helpful. As Freeze said, you'll see the questions that mimic the demo on this test block and the final, so it's worth it to make sure you know how the different alpha and beta drugs work.

It's also worth going just because unless they've changed things since our class you'll never have a professor in pharm as good as Dr. Koss.
 
For pic photos on the IHI tests, is there a clinical scenario that goes along with them or is it just a random pic flashed up and we are supposed to know what it is?
 
For pic photos on the IHI tests, is there a clinical scenario that goes along with them or is it just a random pic flashed up and we are supposed to know what it is?
Some days it's going to feel like a random photo just flashed up there... but it's not. Dr. Holliman tries to make the photos straight-forward and it's a good area to pick up points, but it took me a block or two to pick up his system.

In general (not 100%, but in general) the photos you will see are photos that were already presented in lecture. If you have a reasonably good memory, you're golden. It's a good argument for looking through the PowerPoints from lecture one more time before the exam if you possibly can, 'cause the exam pictures are there - you just don't know which ones.

Another specialty bites the dust for me: Derm. Not that I would ever have a hope in hell of snagging a spot... but I sure as heck don't want to spend my days looking at ditzels all day long - then freezing ditzels, or burning ditzels, or cutting out ditzels. Sure, you have regular hours and never have to go to the hospital, but it's just not my thing. And they're real doctors - you're detecting cancers and it's serious business. But... I will not name names, most of the derm attendings are nice - but there is a certain aroma of smug snottiness everywhere in the office. I don't think you can be a staff member without perfect skin. When a lesion can't be identified, everyone needs a dermatologist. But I've concluded that those with great coverage patronize the derm much more than those who don't - and have every single itty-bitty totally benign ditzel removed.

My apologies to anyone interested in Derm - if ya like it, you go! Actually, the most interesting part of the rotation is the 1976 Telex Slide Carousel player in absolutely stunning mint condition - never ceases to amaze me how perfectly it's preserved. Everything it's supposed to do still works! The ones in the OUHSC library just ate slides and smoked - worthless.
 
It feels completely bizarre that we haven't even had our first test block and there are already close to 1,000 applicants waiting for an interview. I recall this time a year ago, thinking, "If only." A year later, I'm still thinking the same thing just in a new context. If only I can pass the first block, I think I'll feel like I'm actually a real medical student. I'm excited to be here, get that surreal feeling sometimes when I'm in class or walking on campus, but right now I pretty much feel like a total poser.
 
It feels completely bizarre that we haven't even had our first test block and there are already close to 1,000 applicants waiting for an interview. I recall this time a year ago, thinking, "If only." A year later, I'm still thinking the same thing just in a new context. If only I can pass the first block, I think I'll feel like I'm actually a real medical student. I'm excited to be here, get that surreal feeling sometimes when I'm in class or walking on campus, but right now I pretty much feel like a total poser.

The good news is that assuming you pass (which most do, so the odds are in your favor) it will be very reassuring that indeed, you can probably make it through medical school. I was really worried that I would fail out until after we'd received all our grades from TB1. I had this image that all the people in medical school were going to be brilliant and I was going to be the lone idiot who didn't understand anything. Fortunately, I'd say there are only a few people who really fit this pre-conceived notion of brillance in medical school. I envy/admire/loathe these rare creatures, and I am thankful that most of us are all just bright people who work hard.

I think that poser feeling doesn't go away for quite awhile. I asked a real live physician when he felt like he knew what he was doing, and he pretty much said second year of residency. So we've got a ways to go.
 
I had this image that all the people in medical school were going to be brilliant and I was going to be the lone idiot who didn't understand anything. Fortunately...

Man my mind takes funny turns. As soon as I saw 'fortunately' I immediately filled in in my head:

"Fortunately I found out that almost everyone was an idiot who didn't understand anything..."

And then even funnier thoughts strolled through my head of idiot doctors on the wards.
 
we all take it cool if ever we are put in hard situation but just play it nice 😀
it happens to me the misunderstood but nevr take myself for an adiote:idea:
 
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i love ur avatar jwox soo funny
 
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i love ur avatar jwox soo funny

😀 Thanks! I've had it for quite a while and I still think it's hilarious. I can waaay too easily see my cat doing that...after all, she did eat foil.
 
I had this image that all the people in medical school were going to be brilliant and I was going to be the lone idiot who didn't understand anything.

This is me, also compounded by the fact that our class's WUME average was a 91%. That doesn't help. I am surrounded by brilliant people, and I am the lone idiot.

On another note, Bravo, I completely understand what you mean by that surreal feeling.
 
This is me, also compounded by the fact that our class's WUME average was a 91%. That doesn't help. I am surrounded by brilliant people, and I am the lone idiot.

On another note, Bravo, I completely understand what you mean by that surreal feeling.

If it makes you feel better, there are plenty of people that I knew who didn't take the WUME too seriously and made up for it just fine later on. I, on the other hand, studied my arse off for the wume, pulled of a 98%, but followed that with average, extremely poor, and then what I needed to keep my grade exam scores. The averages will drop, unfortunately not quite as much as I think they should. Our averages hung around 88 most of the year. I hear they drop for second year?
 
For PCM II, do we need to read the book chapters or is syllabus + notegroups good enough?

The book's a complete waste of time, imo. Syllabus and notegroups are all you should need. Also, be sure to go through the questions on hippo's qbank -- some of the same questions tend to pop up on the exams.

Our averages on IHI exams were in the B- range, which was a drop from the usual B+ averages we saw first year. I agree, though, that grade inflation is an issue and seems to only be getting worse.
 
The book's a complete waste of time, imo. Syllabus and notegroups are all you should need. Also, be sure to go through the questions on hippo's qbank -- some of the same questions tend to pop up on the exams.

Our averages on IHI exams were in the B- range, which was a drop from the usual B+ averages we saw first year. I agree, though, that grade inflation is an issue and seems to only be getting worse.

we also didn't have a pathology professor. And our tests were compiled by a PhD from someone else's question bank, and had proportionally more 'hard' questions from that same bank than previous years. True story.

Oh wait, you are from the year below me. You guys are just dumb.
 
I don't think Dr. Holliman expects any of us to go in to path, as he often mentions "That won't be your problem; it'll be the pathologists problem". I guess our school doesn't typically have a whole lot of budding pathoblasts?

I think I started studying too hard too soon. I'm starting to feel a little burned out today... which I am sure will carry over to the next week.

I have a hard time feeling like this stuff is harder than last year. Maybe it is just because I haven't had an exam yet (probably) or maybe it is just because I pretty much couldn't care less about much of anything we learned last year and so it was incredibly difficult to study for any of it. This year, I care about most of it so I'm not having as hard of a time studying for it, making it seems comparatively easier (since I'm studying it more). I guess we'll find out which of these two is correct after next week.

After next week is over, we're officially more than half-way through our :bullcrap: courses! :soexcited: :clap:
 
Personally I didn't think 2nd year was notably harder than 1st year, so I wouldn't worry about not feeling like it's harder. Yeah, IHI is 50 million times more interesting than biochem or gross, and pharm, while not super exciting, is sorta clinically relevant. The first IHI test is nice, too, because it's all Holliman stuff. The sections that are taught by clinical faculty are a little more cumbersome.
 
Personally I didn't think 2nd year was notably harder than 1st year, so I wouldn't worry about not feeling like it's harder. Yeah, IHI is 50 million times more interesting than biochem or gross, and pharm, while not super exciting, is sorta clinically relevant. The first IHI test is nice, too, because it's all Holliman stuff. The sections that are taught by clinical faculty are a little more cumbersome.
DocBagel, of course, is an absolute master of the written word, counselor that she is, which makes her a master medical student :laugh:. I did think 2nd year was noticeably more challenging because the degree of rote memorization goes up considerably which was never an easy skill for me - we just never did such a thing in business school, even at the graduate level. However, you're right on track, Jwax - the degree of difficulty goes up second year, but so does the degree of interesting - so, all things considered, I enjoyed second year much more than I did first year. Actually, right now, I'm starting to think of those long days of homeschooling with breaks to watch Oprah as "the good old days." God, do I miss afternoon naps.

We have to tip our hat to the Class of 2009, though - the year Dr. Holliman was sick must have been surreal. I heard they even tried playing some of his old audiotapes to the class before they finally got Dr. What's-His-Face (a really nice guy, I understand) to take over. Not a good experience for anybody and, from what I heard, really nobody's fault.
 
Beat me to it. Bagel's like some kind of genius or something. She slayed the Beast whose number shall not be named.
I know. I had my fits of intense jealousy at home so that I wouldn't turn green when I was around her. Still love her, though.
 
Personally I didn't think 2nd year was notably harder than 1st year, so I wouldn't worry about not feeling like it's harder.

As soon as I read that I thought "Well, heck, I must be doing something wrong then" b/c the likelihood that we agree upon the difficulty of any of our classes is slim... but thanks for trying to impart some optimism. 🙂

So far, it seems like the amount of memorization is less... but I have the distinct impression that this is a first test block type of thing. Last year, TB1 seemed like an incredible softball compared to the rest of the stuff. I presume they do the same thing 2nd year? Or again, since almost all of this stuff seems to have clinical relevance, it doesn't really seem like I'm memorizing as opposed to learning something I can use? I don't know.

I just finished re-watching all the IHI lectures 😱 (last night and today). It took a little longer than I intended it to, as I had expected to be finished watching them about 3 hours ago... but that's what happens when you get tired of studying. It takes twice as long to do anything. 👎
 
Just wanted to bookmark this so I can remember you said it after you get your Holliman test score back 😉

I have a hard time feeling like this stuff is harder than last year. Maybe it is just because I haven't had an exam yet (probably)...

Quoted out of context... observation already noted.
 
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Well, easier or harder, best wishes for a very successful MS-II TB1. As I recall, the memorization does indeed go up after TB1. Don't make the IHI mistake I did - I didn't spend nearly enough time on reproductive tumors - I left that until the end. The repro tumors are a good example of what's coming as far as memorization goes - don't let it bite you in the backside. As we were talking about, TB1 was my lowest score in IHI - and it was just because I had to learn the hard way how to prepare for an IHI test - not that the material was harder than subsequent test blocks.

Koss's autonomic material is not a walk in the park... but in future TBs, you'll have tons more drugs to know - which, IMHO, kinda puts a drag on everything.
 
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