University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 4

[masterofmonkeys]

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I'm sorry if we aren't all meeting up to your standards, monkey master. I like to think that I will know drugs by heart after I finish my training (after residency is over) but until then I will flail along with whatever knowledge I can manage to retain.

No I'm just being defensive and pissy. In my defense I'm post-op day 2 and I dont do narcotics (religious reasons). The implication made was that I hold the belief I do because I'm psych, and therefore don't have to know much.

Which is a garbage assumption to make, and I said so.

I'm not saying you should have tarascon memorized by the time you set foot on the wards, just that knowing commonly used drugs is both time-efficient and makes a good impression on your superiors.

 

[masterofmonkeys]

Hey, as a future psych person I'm taking a little offense here. Psych people really do need to know medicine. Yeah, there aren't a lot of procedures, but lots of other docs don't do procedures either. Psychiatrists deal with biological conditions and treat them with medication and ECT. That's medicine. They also deal with patients who have delirium from all sorts of metabolic/nutritional etc. issues.

As I said earlier, an MD should mean something. Just because I'm doing psych doesn't mean i should forget how to treat HTN, diabetes, and common infections. I think it's ludicrous to say 'oh you have a sore throat, sorry I can't handle that, go see your PCP.' Or call a med consult because my pt has anemia, when I can easily work that up myself.

As long as we (psych) let others think we cant handle bread and buttermedicine, we're going to be seen as 'not real doctors'. **** that.

 

[Jwax]

Hey, as a future psych person I'm taking a little offense here. Psych people really do need to know medicine. Yeah, there aren't a lot of procedures, but lots of other docs don't do procedures either. Psychiatrists deal with biological conditions and treat them with medication and ECT. That's medicine. They also deal with patients who have delirium from all sorts of metabolic/nutritional etc. issues.

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I was making a joke at psych's expense, much like we make fun that surgeons don't need to know anything either - they just cut. I was kidding, I'm sorry that got lost in the interwebz translation.

MoM - I will say that knowing almost anything we're taught this year well is useful, time efficient, and will impress our superiors. Unfortunately, I can retain only so much (and I am willing to put only so much effort into school) and consider pharm to be the least important of the things we are supposed to know since pharm info is so quickly and easily accessible if you've got epocrates.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Wait, surgeons don't just cut?

My world is crashing down around me. I can't go on.

Jwax's comments should be tempered by the fact that she is interested in a field in which the tough medical decisions consist of A. Refer pt. B. Discharge pt. C. Transfer pt. 😉😀

 

[masterofmonkeys]

2nd year pharm is very different from clinical pharm. Very different. Different (fewer) drugs and more contextual information on when to use what. It's a lot easier.

Again, don't make a point of sitting down each night and learning them, but whenever you see em or use em, try to remember dosages.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Hey, as a future psych person I'm taking a little offense here. Psych people really do need to know medicine. Yeah, there aren't a lot of procedures, but lots of other docs don't do procedures either. Psychiatrists deal with biological conditions and treat them with medication and ECT. That's medicine. They also deal with patients who have delirium from all sorts of metabolic/nutritional etc. issues.

👍 Agree 100%. Psychiatry is indeed a very specialized area of medicine, and the medical knowledge is paramount. I recall on my psych rotation one of the attendings discussing this very issue and talking about the particular role of psychiatrists in mental health care - this doc was saying that in psych, you'd better know your medicine and be good at it, because the PhDs are probably going to be better than the psychiatrists at the more advanced forms of talk therapy, because the PhDs get a great deal more training in it. Never thought of it that way before.

I tried to cheer my happy self up today on surgery - went to a bilateral hernia repair with a very friendly non-OU surgeon. Big patient, though, and I could only use my right arm for the Richardson retractor - not enough room to pass the left arm over to switch off - man, my arm was cramped by the end. I've found-out who all the community surgeons are who are nice to students but I've got to spend time with the OU surgeons or my review will be crappy. I also rounded on my patients very quickly and tracked-down my intern - I tagged after her and pulled charts, looked up labs, etc - so that she could work through her list quicker. She finally said, "you know, I really like rounding with you." Success! H*ll, as long as nobody yells at me in the OR, I'll work my tail off doing any scut they want.

This will make sense only to the psych folks, but I think my problem is that I just don't relate to the surgery residents or the attendings. Nobody's been rude to me (well, actually, one of the surgeons said 'you look like you've been around the block a few times' and I wanted to say, 'yeah, but it was paved when I started... what's your excuse?' - he then snorted after he asked about my former life and called me 'the CPA' for the rest of the procedure). But, I guess this happens when we find our discipline where we're supposed to be - on medicine, I felt like most of the people I met thought the way I think and had a lot of the same attitudes that I have. In surgery, it's just a totally different personality that I don't really jive with. That's OK - I can behave myself and get through it... but it's a little lonely, you know? It reminds me of gym class in junior high school when I just wanted to drop through the floor. 😳

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Yeah, I'm feeling the lack of relating thing on peds right now. A couple of the attendings seem like cool people who I would actually want to talk to outside of work but generally they're just not my people. Too much talk about kids -- their own and the patients. It seems like there's so much focus on breeding and getting married and doing all these traditional things, and I just feel like an oddball because I'm pretty non-traditional. I also feel like I can't at all be honest about the fact that I'm uncertain whether or not I actually want a kid and the fact that I'm not super interested in other people's kids. Sure, I want them to be healthy and not abused and all that, but I don't really want to be the one doing that.

Jwax, no problem. I knew you were more joking than anything, but I can't let an opportunity pass to defend psych. 🙂

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

(...) Too much talk about kids -- their own and the patients. It seems like there's so much focus on breeding and getting married and doing all these traditional things, and I just feel like an oddball because I'm pretty non-traditional.

Yep, we do have our share of attendings on the Tulsa campus who are on the socially-conservative side... fortunately, most of them seem to be OK with the fact that not everyone feels the same. One of my attendings (on Medicine, actually) said that she loved Oklahoma because of the family-friendly values. I wanted to say, "well, some of us have dedicated our lives to making this state a bit more liberal."

I actually had way more fun with a 4th year student from California. One day he mentioned to me that, while Oklahoma was very openly religious, there seemed to be an awful lot of vice here - teenage pregnancy, drugs, booze, etc... I love it when somebody "gets" it. I said, "yep, we have lots of religion here in the South because it helps us to keep a lid on our behavior - just barely, actually."

Sorry, I'm quite sure I've offended a number of people. Just having a little fun - sorry. Undoubtedly I'm blowing off steam since I'm off today. What will I do next Saturday when I'm on call after a long week?

 

[Jwax]

Sorry, I'm quite sure I've offended a number of people. Just having a little fun - sorry. Undoubtedly I'm blowing off steam since I'm off today. What will I do next Saturday when I'm on call after a long week?

Shun the non-believer! Shun!! 😉

I got to do my first blood draw today. I've never stuck in needle in anyone, so it was pretty exciting. My patient, on the other hand, slept through it.

 

[Bravofriendly]

Yep, we do have our share of attendings on the Tulsa campus who are on the socially-conservative side... fortunately, most of them seem to be OK with the fact that not everyone feels the same. One of my attendings (on Medicine, actually) said that she loved Oklahoma because of the family-friendly values. I wanted to say, "well, some of us have dedicated our lives to making this state a bit more liberal."

I actually had way more fun with a 4th year student from California. One day he mentioned to me that, while Oklahoma was very openly religious, there seemed to be an awful lot of vice here - teenage pregnancy, drugs, booze, etc... I love it when somebody "gets" it. I said, "yep, we have lots of religion here in the South because it helps us to keep a lid on our behavior - just barely, actually."

Sorry, I'm quite sure I've offended a number of people. Just having a little fun - sorry. Undoubtedly I'm blowing off steam since I'm off today. What will I do next Saturday when I'm on call after a long week?

I detest the fact that "family-friendly" is equivalent with conservative/religious. Very sad. It means something very different to me.

Jwax - your first blood draw and the patient slept through it? Unless they were in a pharm-induced coma, I'm calling that a smashing success. 👍

 

[Jwax]

Jwax - your first blood draw and the patient slept through it? Unless they were in a pharm-induced coma, I'm calling that a smashing success. 👍

You could sort of say the patient was in a pharm induced coma, based on spending the prior two days on meth and crack and thus no sleep for probably >48 hours. I'd love to say I'm just that good, but I'd be lying. 🙂 It was actually not nearly as difficult to stick a needle in someone and get their vein than I had always imagined it would be, so I think I will be capable of doing it just fine in the future (with practice). I like getting to actually "do stuff" with patients. It some how makes me think I'll be capable of being a doctor after all.

 

[Jwax]

Jwax's comments should be tempered by the fact that she is interested in a field in which the tough medical decisions consist of A. Refer pt. B. Discharge pt. C. Transfer pt. 😉😀

One of the many reasons I want to go into EM. 😉

 

[Doctor Bagel]

You know, with peds it's not so much that they're conservative. In fact, I'm not sure most of them are. That seems to be more of an issue with some of the other departments, and I do think overt religiousity is one of the downsides of Tulsa. I wonder if it's some ORU influence, but it seems more pronounced here than in OKC.

Anyway, the peds people are just different from me in an entirely non-political way, and I'm not sure if I can quantify it. I just don't feel at home. Of course my whole not liking kids thing probably doesn't help me relate. In fact, the whole clinic experience made me want to die -- newborn nursery was actually a nice break even though the hours sucked.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

You know, with peds it's not so much that they're conservative. In fact, I'm not sure most of them are. That seems to be more of an issue with some of the other departments, and I do think overt religiousity is one of the downsides of Tulsa. I wonder if it's some ORU influence, but it seems more pronounced here than in OKC.

Anyway, the peds people are just different from me in an entirely non-political way, and I'm not sure if I can quantify it. I just don't feel at home. Of course my whole not liking kids thing probably doesn't help me relate. In fact, the whole clinic experience made me want to die -- newborn nursery was actually a nice break even though the hours sucked.

Newborn nursery was my favorite part of peds in OKC. Clinic was a close second, but not even working at a private practice site in Edmond could overcome the fact that it was still clinic.

 

[Jwax]

I had completely forgotten that we got points for the TBSA and workshops - they are 10% of our grade at the end of it. This gives me just enough leeway that I don't feel the need to give up trying for my grade in IHI. 👍

 

[shortitalian]

I had completely forgotten that we got points for the TBSA and workshops - they are 10% of our grade at the end of it. This gives me just enough leeway that I don't feel the need to give up trying for my grade in IHI. 👍

Me too!!

On another note, I love when lecturers say things like, "[insert random fact or lab test] is obsolete, but it will still be on the USMLE." 😕

 

[Jwax]

On another note, I love when lecturers say things like, "[insert random fact or lab test] is obsolete, but it will still be on the USMLE." 😕

I am pretty much of the opinion that if they feel it is obsolete, I will treat it as such regardless of its appearance on the boards. Honestly, we have to know so much stuff for the boards and much of it isn't obsolete - I'd rather use my time learning that stuff that wasting it on s*it they know isn't used.

So I've been putting a lot of thought into books for next year and have seen some of the lists of what you should get to survive 3rd year. Does OKC have the book loan thing for 3rd year texts or is that just a Tulsa thing? Because I really don't want to have to buy a bunch of medicine, family, peds, or surgery books. I'm thinking (based on advice of one of the ER docs) that I am going to buy Dubin's EKG book and Emergency Medicine Secrets. I imagine I will be willing to buy a book or two for other things here and there, but I've seen a list of some ~15 recommended books for >$30 a pop... No way in hell I'm spending ~$450 on books. I imagine I can (and should) probably wait until all the 3rd/4th years start selling off their books for cheap, but I'm a little impatient on this for some reason.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I am pretty much of the opinion that if they feel it is obsolete, I will treat it as such regardless of its appearance on the boards. Honestly, we have to know so much stuff for the boards and much of it isn't obsolete - I'd rather use my time learning that stuff that wasting it on s*it they know isn't used.

So I've been putting a lot of thought into books for next year and have seen some of the lists of what you should get to survive 3rd year. Does OKC have the book loan thing for 3rd year texts or is that just a Tulsa thing? Because I really don't want to have to buy a bunch of medicine, family, peds, or surgery books. I'm thinking (based on advice of one of the ER docs) that I am going to buy Dubin's EKG book and Emergency Medicine Secrets. I imagine I will be willing to buy a book or two for other things here and there, but I've seen a list of some ~15 recommended books for >$30 a pop... No way in hell I'm spending ~$450 on books. I imagine I can (and should) probably wait until all the 3rd/4th years start selling off their books for cheap, but I'm a little impatient on this for some reason.

Our class started an OKC book loan program, which should still be in existence. The only book I bought with the intention to keep (outside of some radiology texts) was the family medicine book. It has already been useful. Like Dr. Franklin told us, regardless of which specialty you choose, you will all have a family with medical questions.

 

[masterofmonkeys]

This will make sense only to the psych folks, but I think my problem is that I just don't relate to the surgery residents or the attendings. Nobody's been rude to me (well, actually, one of the surgeons said 'you look like you've been around the block a few times' and I wanted to say, 'yeah, but it was paved when I started... what's your excuse?' - he then snorted after he asked about my former life and called me 'the CPA' for the rest of the procedure). But, I guess this happens when we find our discipline where we're supposed to be - on medicine, I felt like most of the people I met thought the way I think and had a lot of the same attitudes that I have. In surgery, it's just a totally different personality that I don't really jive with. That's OK - I can behave myself and get through it... but it's a little lonely, you know? It reminds me of gym class in junior high school when I just wanted to drop through the floor. 😳

Meh. I've got an ortho's jocky nature, with an electrophysiologist's nerdiness. I'm planning on developing a new form of psychotherapy: SIUT (suck it up therapy), complemented with WIOT (walk it off training), and adjunct RSDOIM (rub some dirt on it method)

 

[Mr. Freeze]

Meh. I've got an ortho's jocky nature, with an electrophysiologist's nerdiness. I'm planning on developing a new form of psychotherapy: SIUT (suck it up therapy), complemented with WIOT (walk it off training), and adjunct RSDOIM (rub some dirt on it method)

Assessment: Pt. c/o abd pn.
Plan: Pt. needs to C/U. (cowboy up).

 

[Jwax]

Our class started an OKC book loan program, which should still be in existence. The only book I bought with the intention to keep (outside of some radiology texts) was the family medicine book. It has already been useful. Like Dr. Franklin told us, regardless of which specialty you choose, you will all have a family with medical questions.

Thank you, class of 2009. That helps a lot.

I woke up with a sore throat that has gotten worse and worse all day. My ears have slowly started to hurt. I think it is safe to say I'm sick and it's not just my allergies this time. Ibuprofen isn't helping my sore throat. 🙁 To make it even better, I have my practice physical exam tomorrow... joy.

Going in to get checked out for strep by O'don tonight. Haven't had a throat this sore since the last time I had strep, which was before my tonsils were taken out some ~8 years ago.

In case you were burning with curiosity, I don't have strep. O'don gave me a script for dexamethasone + benadryl, which for some reason my insurance company refused to cover. So the clever pharmacist and I came up with the idea of just giving me the dexa (which the insurance company also won't cover, but was much cheaper) and bought a little bottle of benadryl. Mixed the two at home for 1/2 the price.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I almost wish I had a busier schedule right now. I am quite literally counting down the hours until 11:00 on Monday and then, hopefully, noon on Thursday.

This is worse than waiting for MCAT scores, acceptance letters, and Step 1 scores combined.

136 hours and 55 minutes until the matched/scramble e-mails go out.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

I am pretty much of the opinion that if they feel it is obsolete, I will treat it as such regardless of its appearance on the boards. Honestly, we have to know so much stuff for the boards and much of it isn't obsolete - I'd rather use my time learning that stuff that wasting it on s*it they know isn't used.

I'm usually right there with ya, Jwax, but I'd go with the lecturers on this one. There are certain things that are, in fact, obsolete but they still appear on the boards - and you do need to know them, otherwise you're throwing away an easy question. For instance, if you have a patient that you suspect has pernicious anemia, the correct answer may very well be "do a Shilling test." Now, nobody does Shilling tests anymore - many tests using radioactive tracers are too expensive and difficult to perform and have been replaced with something else - but it's a "classic" test and you're expected to know what it is. Go with the flow on this one.

Are you old enough to know why a woman would be very upset to be told "the rabbit died"?? There's another classic one for ya <g>.

Newborn nursery is, I'm sure, a totally different experience in Tulsa than it is in OKC. Most rotations in Tulsa are far more laid-back, easy-going, and less malignant than OKC. Newborn nursery is a very noteworthy exception to that rule - the attending makes jolly well sure of it.

We were going to lunch today and the surgery residents walked right past us without even nodding or saying "hello." The culture among the residents of treating the students as invisible is just comical. I was in a slightly less pissy mood today - and I really wanted to grab one of the residents and say, "you know, I know I'm a student and you think ignoring me is a mark of status but I am also 20 years older than you are and, lemme tell ya, ignoring someone you're working with daily just makes you look extremely ill-bred." Take that, Cretin. But, truth be told, I'm perfectly happy when they send the hampsters back to the cage (the student call room) - I can read and nobody bothers me - it's our "safe zone."

 

[Doctor Bagel]

So I had my first peds call last night, and that was kind of worthless. I spent the night and everything, but didn't really do much of anything. I'm not really getting the point of their rigidity about not going home on call. Just a weird department. My plan for the next 2.5 weeks is to do as little as possible and hide whenever. It'll be good prep for surgery. 🙂

 

[Amxcvbcv]

http://thru-you.com

Pretty neat. A guy basically spliced together and editted a bunch of different musical performances on Youtube into seven new songs. I'm very impressed.

 

[Jwax]

http://thru-you.com

Pretty neat. A guy basically spliced together and editted a bunch of different musical performances on Youtube into seven new songs. I'm very impressed.

Wow. That is impressive.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

So I had my first peds call last night, and that was kind of worthless. I spent the night and everything, but didn't really do much of anything. I'm not really getting the point of their rigidity about not going home on call. Just a weird department. My plan for the next 2.5 weeks is to do as little as possible and hide whenever. It'll be good prep for surgery. 🙂

Isn't that ridiculous when you cap your admits at 7pm but you still aren't going anywhere that night - even though most of the seniors have an absolute policy of never waking up medical students (small compassion since they know we have to stay).

Now, I've done my share of surgical whining - but, comparing it to peds call, you do of course have much to look forward to. You have a private room with a private bath (albeit a scruffy room, but it's yours for the night) plus free food from the cafeteria and coffee shop. Infinitely more comfortable than our dear friends at the Pink Palace. Even rough call nights are bearable to me if I just have a private room where I can lay down and gather my thoughts for a couple of hours - even if I don't get much sleep. And, in surgery, if you do get called, there's undoubtedly somebody down in the ER with a missing arm and huge lacs and stuff like that - and they'll let you sew people up in the ER. They don't just call you for the sake of calling (you have one of the real trauma pagers, so nobody has to remember to page the student) - if surgery calls after-hours, something interesting is going on.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Isn't that ridiculous when you cap your admits at 7pm but you still aren't going anywhere that night - even though most of the seniors have an absolute policy of never waking up medical students (small compassion since they know we have to stay).

Now, I've done my share of surgical whining - but, comparing it to peds call, you do of course have much to look forward to. You have a private room with a private bath (albeit a scruffy room, but it's yours for the night) plus free food from the cafeteria and coffee shop. Infinitely more comfortable than our dear friends at the Pink Palace. Even rough call nights are bearable to me if I just have a private room where I can lay down and gather my thoughts for a couple of hours - even if I don't get much sleep. And, in surgery, if you do get called, there's undoubtedly somebody down in the ER with a missing arm and huge lacs and stuff like that - and they'll let you sew people up in the ER. They don't just call you for the sake of calling (you have one of the real trauma pagers, so nobody has to remember to page the student) - if surgery calls after-hours, something interesting is going on.

Yeah, I think I'll like surgery more than peds. The intern on my team was in the same room with me, so I heard the one page she got at midnight, but she said I didn't have to go, so I didn't. The joys of not caring. The call quarters in peds are kinda cramped -- it's good to hear you have your own space in medicine. Yeah, and it's super lame that we don't even get free food. Luckily one of the nice residents hooked me up with a free dinner.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Isn't that ridiculous when you cap your admits at 7pm but you still aren't going anywhere that night - even though most of the seniors have an absolute policy of never waking up medical students (small compassion since they know we have to stay).

Now, I've done my share of surgical whining - but, comparing it to peds call, you do of course have much to look forward to. You have a private room with a private bath (albeit a scruffy room, but it's yours for the night) plus free food from the cafeteria and coffee shop. Infinitely more comfortable than our dear friends at the Pink Palace. Even rough call nights are bearable to me if I just have a private room where I can lay down and gather my thoughts for a couple of hours - even if I don't get much sleep. And, in surgery, if you do get called, there's undoubtedly somebody down in the ER with a missing arm and huge lacs and stuff like that - and they'll let you sew people up in the ER. They don't just call you for the sake of calling (you have one of the real trauma pagers, so nobody has to remember to page the student) - if surgery calls after-hours, something interesting is going on.

The most interesting call night I had on third year bar none was the second night of medicine call back in July of 2007. A guy one of my classmates had seen for chest/abdominal pain in the ER deteriorated rapidly due to what turned out to be an aortic dissection. It went downhill so fast that when surgery got there they did a thoracotomy right there in the ER bay (this was at the VA). Our residents couldn't stop talking about it on morning rounds. The only problem from our standpoint is that my classmate slept through their paging him and the rest of us didn't find out until the next morning. 😛

Apparently he got enough cerebral perfusion when they cross-clamped his aorta to say goodbye to everyone. It was like something straight out of a TV medical drama.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I heard a rumor that surgery clerkship grades have been notably lower with the new course director. Have any other Tulsa peeps heard this? I specifically heard about multiple people getting Cs.

I also talked to some students who busted their asses in peds and still got bad evals. That's just reinforcing my slacking.

 

[Jwax]

I'm currently experiencing 2-pillow orthopnea due to all the drainage... this is a little ridiculous. The only reason I am glad that I'm a second year vs. 3rd is that I can lounge and recover from being sick instead of having to be at the hospital infecting others.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

I'm currently experiencing 2-pillow orthopnea due to all the drainage... this is a little ridiculous. The only reason I am glad that I'm a second year vs. 3rd is that I can lounge and recover from being sick instead of having to be at the hospital infecting others.

I got the flu while I was on ob-gyn (the benign gyn week and a half) and stayed home for two and a half days straight. When I came back I was still coughing a bit, and one of the scrub techs slipped me a cough drop behind my surgical mask with some forceps while we were doing a TAH-BSO.

 

[Jwax]

Finally starting to feel better. Okay, so it's only been 5 days, but it has been so long since I've been sick that I just felt so freaking useless this week. I didn't like it. My ears still hurt, I've still got some drainage and a cough, but cough drops & Tylenol should do the trick.

I would be more excited about it being spring break if: a) it wasn't 40 degrees outside, b) I didn't have to study to catch up for the lack of work this week, c) I didn't have to work on my research presentation that I will be giving in Florida in 2 weeks, d) I didn't have to start studying for the boards (2 week free Kaplan qbank starting today that I intend to use thoroughly), e) I didn't have to make up my rotation from this week next week, and f) I was going somewhere beachy, mountainous, or Vegas. That's a lot of ifs. Oh well, at least I can sleep in most of the week, I might actually get to see my husband for once, and it'll be warm starting on Sunday. And I'm almost healthy again 🙂.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

I heard a rumor that surgery clerkship grades have been notably lower with the new course director. Have any other Tulsa peeps heard this? I specifically heard about multiple people getting Cs.

I also talked to some students who busted their asses in peds and still got bad evals. That's just reinforcing my slacking.

There's only been one group through with the new course director, so - who knows? He does give out a fair number of lecture grades but, given the number of attendings, he would really have to work at it to drop your grade. I don't know. A good friend of mine who is a practicing physician told me that, before I got out of medical school, I would get a "C" somewhere - it was inevitable. Wouldn't surprise me if it were surgery.

Attitude counts for a whole lot on Peds. Not that slacking a bit will get you in trouble - acting contemptuous of pediatrics will get you some majorly bad reviews.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

Then I might be screwed because I have a pretty bad attitude. I don't think I sneer or anything, but I don't exactly have a smile on my face. I don't know -- I've heard enough stories about people who worked really hard and were really enthusiastic who got pretty bad reviews, so who knows.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

So... uhh... it's now official.

I'm going to be a radiologist.

 

[soonereng]

So... uhh... it's now official.

I'm going to be a radiologist.

Congrats! So you know you matched, you just don't know where yet right? You guys find out on Thursday?

 

[masterofmonkeys]

grats.

I matched too. God knows which of my 11 I matched at. Now i'm kicking my own ass for even ranking the bottom 3 or 4. Im in serious fear about that.

 

[Jwax]

So... uhh... it's now official.

I'm going to be a radiologist.

😀 👍 Congrats! Yay for not having to scramble.

I matched too. God knows which of my 11 I matched at. Now i'm kicking my own ass for even ranking the bottom 3 or 4. Im in serious fear about that.

I think I was reading a stat that said something like 90% of students match at one of their top 3. And I can at least hope that any of your bottom 3 or 4 are better than what you might have found had you had to scramble.

<-------- would very much like to go ahead and skip to this time 4th year. Studying for boards sucks (so does not studying yet and freaking out about it).

 

[soonereng]

Studying for boards sucks (so does not studying yet and freaking out about it).

Geez, what's with all this studying for boards crap already?

I'm currently working on my house doing all the things that it needs done for the next two years.

I'm also looking for a van that I can stay in down by the river in OKC if anyone knows of something since a 1.5 hr commute isn't really feasible for 3rd yr.

 

[DMBFan61]

So... uhh... it's now official.

I'm going to be a radiologist.

Congrats man! Hope all is well. Today is a good day!
Im going to join the 3492348710234 people in our class doing gas. 😀

 

[masterofmonkeys]

Geez, what's with all this studying for boards crap already?

I'm currently working on my house doing all the things that it needs done for the next two years.

I'm also looking for a van that I can stay in down by the river in OKC if anyone knows of something since a 1.5 hr commute isn't really feasible for 3rd yr.

soonereng, michael koehler (4th year) has a rather nice house in MWC 10 minutes from the hospital with absurdly reasonable rent. He has 1 or even 2 openings next year. He'll do short term for med students. Also his smelly roommate will (hopefully) not be there next year. I can get you his number if you need it.

 

[masterofmonkeys]

Man this is a weird time. I have a lot of friends who I care about and I'm hoping they matched. But I'm afraid to ask them. And not everyone has updated their facebook stati!

 

[Jwax]

Geez, what's with all this studying for boards crap already?

The advice I've been given since before starting med school is that you need to start studying for boards around spring break. Spring break is upon us. Thus, the need to study for boards has become overwhelmingly real in the last few days. I'm pretty sure that I'm going to have to be comfortable with not studying for the boards until this next TB is over and then I can study like mad for our finals (and the boards). I would like to use my two week free trial that started Friday though, but I haven't worked up the energy for it yet. Nor have I worked on my research presentation that I will be giving in 12 days... 😱 I'm sure you aren't freaked out b/c you've had the "studying for the boards not the class" outlook from the get-go.

I did at least manage to do laundry and buy groceries for once though.

Man this is a weird time. I have a lot of friends who I care about and I'm hoping they matched. But I'm afraid to ask them. And not everyone has updated their facebook stati!

It's funny how dependent we've become on facebook for communication. I refuse to succumb to "twitter" if for no other reason than the name is stupid. Plus I already caved into xanga, then myspace, then facebook. Enough is enough.

Congrats to you, too, DMB.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

The advice I've been given since before starting med school is that you need to start studying for boards around spring break.

That's prolly a little late, really. But only if you want an above avg. score.
















Was this advice from people who had taken it? Granted, I don't know everyone's schedules, but I don't know very many people that started that early. I can think of one, who did quite well, but probably not because of WHEN they started studying. You'll be fine studying hard for IHI>pharm, then IMMERSING yourself in it after the final. Seriously. It'll be okay.

Another reason, in my estimation, this is awfully early to start is that you will run out of quality Q sources even doing them at a reasonable pace of 50q's a day. Not to mention the fact your head will explode by May.

But it's your life! 👍

 

[Bravofriendly]

So... uhh... it's now official.

I'm going to be a radiologist.

Congratulations!! I hope Thursday holds even more good news for you.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

So a 2 year old died today in the hospital, and I got to watch the whole thing. I already don't like peds, but I guess this is the really horrible thing about doing it.

 

[Mr. Freeze]

That's the price you pay for never having to set foot in a VA again, you have to watch kiddos die.

 

[oudoc08]

Ok guys, lets see that match list...

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Yeah, where's the match list? I thought OU put it out the same day. I'm anxious to know where all my Class of 2009 buddies matched - and, of course, none of them are anywhere to be found today (and probably aren't sober enough to talk).

BTW, Bagel, I'm so sorry. I had one very-very-very sick kiddo on my inpatient rotation, but he was turning the corner before I went off-service. I'm sure you went through a very emotionally draining experience.