University of Oklahoma -- everyone welcome -- Part 4

[soonereng]

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Can anyone comment on the time requirements for psych in OKC? Is it light on the hours typically? Any weekend call?

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Can anyone comment on the time requirements for psych in OKC? Is it light on the hours typically? Any weekend call?

It really depends on what sites you get for each of the three week blocks.

Do you know what you have yet?

I know we had some call, but I can't remember if any of them fell on the weekend or not. 😳

 

[glp]

Can anyone comment on the time requirements for psych in OKC? Is it light on the hours typically? Any weekend call?

no weekend call. only 3-4 total calls for 6 wk period. a few unlucky people ended up with one friday night call. psych call is more flexible than other 3rd yr rotation so dont sweat it.

hours are very rotation specific but should as a general rule be no worse than 8-5. depending on the clinic/inpt assignment, they can sometimes be as good as 9-3.

ive started to stress out about 4th yr scheduling and match process and found my way back to this board.

 

[soonereng]

no weekend call. only 3-4 total calls for 6 wk period. a few unlucky people ended up with one friday night call. psych call is more flexible than other 3rd yr rotation so dont sweat it.

hours are very rotation specific but should as a general rule be no worse than 8-5. depending on the clinic/inpt assignment, they can sometimes be as good as 9-3.

ive started to stress out about 4th yr scheduling and match process and found my way back to this board.

Thanks for the info and glad you've rejoined us!

I was asking because the schedule I was going to (and did) pick has psych at the end of the first semester around Thanksgiving/Christmas.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

no weekend call. only 3-4 total calls for 6 wk period. a few unlucky people ended up with one friday night call. psych call is more flexible than other 3rd yr rotation so dont sweat it.

hours are very rotation specific but should as a general rule be no worse than 8-5. depending on the clinic/inpt assignment, they can sometimes be as good as 9-3.

ive started to stress out about 4th yr scheduling and match process and found my way back to this board.

Long time no see, glp. I'm pretty stressed about 4th year scheduling and that garbage too - it's all coming due and I really don't have time for it while I'm on surgery.

Yeah, psych isn't a bad pick around Christmastime when you have a lot of other commitments - that's when I had it. I don't know about OKC, but a notable exception to reasonable hours is surgery. In Tulsa it's 5a-5p plus 1x/week overnight call and ya better be there when you're supposed to be there - no going home early. Taking medicine and surgery back-to-back, I've pretty much lived in the hospital for the past 3 months and have 3 more weeks to go. Not fun, but I'll be SO glad when it's over.

I feel like I'm going to be left-out if I don't do an away rotation. I'd like to but, really, my plans are to stay in Tulsa - and between my German Shepherd and my mother with Alzheimer's, the logistics of moving home base again for a month are overwhelming. Sure, I'll interview in other places, but I just don't think I have the time/energy/funds to put on a 30-day dog-and-pony-show.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Appendium to previous comments. Having thought about it, however, do remember: the psych shelf is a bear. So is surgery, OB, peds, and the homegrown shelf in medicine. If you want a decent grade in psych, the hours on-service aren't that bad, but there's a significant study commitment, even if you were paying attention in HB (and who retained that stuff?). I did miss some Christmas parties studying for psych.

If you're serious about taking a mid-year break, which isn't a bad idea, schedule your electives in December. Those are pass-fail and short hours with easy exams.

 

[Jwax]

What's funny is I remember really thinking hard about all the things I wanted to do with my third year schedule back in first year. Now that it's here, the only things I care about are having peds/psych (or fam) first so I can go to Vegas and 2 selectives back-to-back after med/surg so I can go to Tulsa and do EM. I'm not even sure where the other rotations fall on my schedule. I'd like to have med before surg and would like to have surgery sometime in the winter, but it isn't as important as the other two. I've only got 4 schedules left that fit my needs and I don't pick for ~45 more people, so I am relatively confident I'm not going to get those needs. So I guess I'll have to look at other things.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

What's funny is I remember really thinking hard about all the things I wanted to do with my third year schedule back in first year. Now that it's here, the only things I care about are having peds/psych (or fam) first so I can go to Vegas and 2 selectives back-to-back after med/surg so I can go to Tulsa and do EM. I'm not even sure where the other rotations fall on my schedule. I'd like to have med before surg and would like to have surgery sometime in the winter, but it isn't as important as the other two. I've only got 4 schedules left that fit my needs and I don't pick for ~45 more people, so I am relatively confident I'm not going to get those needs. So I guess I'll have to look at other things.

One note about the back to back selectives -- some people in our class who got that were still unable to get EM or anesthesia because 4th years have priority over 3rd years for those slots. Apparently that's especially a problem in the fall. And a general note about schedules, there's really no magic schedule, and everybody has to do the same thing. If you're feeling a little screwed by a not so great number, it'll still be OK.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

So this 4th year scheduling thing is kind of hard. I don't know if/when I'll get aways, and my choice for each month kind of depends on what I get for the previous months. Since my random # is the last in our class for the fall, I'm guessing I'm not going to get many of my first picks, which makes it harder.

I went ahead and scheduled Step II CS for July 20 in LA. I figure I"ll take vacation those last 2 weeks of July. I'll also do vacation/Bedlam the last month and don't know where I'll squeeze in the other 2 weeks. It's so hard to have to schedule 8 weeks of vacation. 😉

 

[Jwax]

One note about the back to back selectives -- some people in our class who got that were still unable to get EM or anesthesia because 4th years have priority over 3rd years for those slots. Apparently that's especially a problem in the fall. And a general note about schedules, there's really no magic schedule, and everybody has to do the same thing. If you're feeling a little screwed by a not so great number, it'll still be OK.

All the schedules that would let me do this are in the spring, several have it is one of the last or the last month. So I don't think it would conflict with many 4th years. Tulsa 3rd years get to pick first as well, so that might take away my options. Oh well. I'm accepting that if it doesn't work out how I planned in the first place, I'll just pick a schedule starting w/peds or psych that I actually like instead of what works for a very specific interest. And if I get the schedule I want but still can't do EM in Tulsa, well... fine. I guess I can work it into 4th year.

Anyone know the weekend time commitment for urology selective in OKC? There aren't very many options left that will let me go to Vegas and have an EM selective at all (including as only a 2-wk OKC). So I'm trying to see if starting with a selective would let me do that. It's the only selective I'm interested in that I can take at the very beginning of the year. Rads, gas, and ortho all aren't offered then or require pre-reqs that obviously I won't have completed at the first rotation.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

I wouldn't count on EM as a 3rd year, anyway. Technically, you're supposed to have completed both Medicine and Surgery to do the EM elective. Now, I hear that's not always enforced - and I've heard some attendings say that you need only Medicine, others have said only Surgery. Problem is, if they let you in - you might get the one attending who expects both pre-requisites. No matter what he thinks of you, he'll make an example of your performance review in order to make a statement to the administration. I'm a chicken, but I wouldn't risk trying to bend the rules.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

All the schedules that would let me do this are in the spring, several have it is one of the last or the last month. So I don't think it would conflict with many 4th years. Tulsa 3rd years get to pick first as well, so that might take away my options. Oh well. I'm accepting that if it doesn't work out how I planned in the first place, I'll just pick a schedule starting w/peds or psych that I actually like instead of what works for a very specific interest. And if I get the schedule I want but still can't do EM in Tulsa, well... fine. I guess I can work it into 4th year.

Anyone know the weekend time commitment for urology selective in OKC? There aren't very many options left that will let me go to Vegas and have an EM selective at all (including as only a 2-wk OKC). So I'm trying to see if starting with a selective would let me do that. It's the only selective I'm interested in that I can take at the very beginning of the year. Rads, gas, and ortho all aren't offered then or require pre-reqs that obviously I won't have completed at the first rotation.

If you get a schedule with a selective up front, you can talk to SuAnn or Jennie about taking two weeks of your fourth year vacation during that time slot and just do 4 selectives during fourth year instead of just 3. Of course, I don't know of anyone's wedding except my own that would warrant that kind of compromise of 4th year vacation time. 😉

We had a classmate do that because his family needed him for harvest.

 

[Jwax]

If you get a schedule with a selective up front, you can talk to SuAnn or Jennie about taking two weeks of your fourth year vacation during that time slot and just do 4 selectives during fourth year instead of just 3. Of course, I don't know of anyone's wedding except my own that would warrant that kind of compromise of 4th year vacation time. 😉

We had a classmate do that because his family needed him for harvest.

Intriguing idea. I'll keep that in mind if I end up with a selective first schedule. That would allow me to do more of the rotations I actually want to do instead of being stuck with a rotation that I don't want to do but haven't had enough 3rd year rotations to take anything better. I don't know if I can convince them of pressing need though. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

So no one knows about urology? I sent an email to the contact person, but she's out of town until next week. So I sent it who she said to contact if you needed something before then. Haven't heard back.

 

[Jwax]

I wouldn't count on EM as a 3rd year, anyway. Technically, you're supposed to have completed both Medicine and Surgery to do the EM elective. Now, I hear that's not always enforced - and I've heard some attendings say that you need only Medicine, others have said only Surgery. Problem is, if they let you in - you might get the one attending who expects both pre-requisites. No matter what he thinks of you, he'll make an example of your performance review in order to make a statement to the administration. I'm a chicken, but I wouldn't risk trying to bend the rules.

All the schedules I'm looking at take this into account and make sure that I have at least one selective after med/surg (so none of my schedules end with med or surg; a few end with back-to-back selectives).

 

[glp]

So no one knows about urology? I sent an email to the contact person, but she's out of town until next week. So I sent it who she said to contact if you needed something before then. Haven't heard back.

i dont know if weekends are required but urology is definitely one of the selectives i would only recommend if you actually have an interest in it. urology residents show up at the hospital the same time that gen surg students do if that tells you anything. ENT and ortho are the two other selectives that are pretty time intensive in my limited experience, though i think ENT is more variable and flexible.

if you cant get ophtho during the time you want to go to vegas, that is your best bet, derm doesnt have weekends, but they are pretty stict during the week and its hard to get early in the summer bc 4th yrs doing sub-i's take up slots (i think).

 

[Jwax]

i dont know if weekends are required but urology is definitely one of the selectives i would only recommend if you actually have an interest in it. urology residents show up at the hospital the same time that gen surg students do if that tells you anything. ENT and ortho are the two other selectives that are pretty time intensive in my limited experience, though i think ENT is more variable and flexible.

if you cant get ophtho during the time you want to go to vegas, that is your best bet, derm doesnt have weekends, but they are pretty stict during the week and its hard to get early in the summer bc 4th yrs doing sub-i's take up slots (i think).

I have some lingering surgical interest in urology. I've been convinced from others in the field that it is the best surgical sub-specialty and given my lingering desire to go into surgery, I figure I ought to give myself a chance to see if I would find urology boring or not. Thanks for the tips 🙂.

 

[soonereng]

I have some lingering surgical interest in urology. I've been convinced from others in the field that it is the best surgical sub-specialty and given my lingering desire to go into surgery, I figure I ought to give myself a chance to see if I would find urology boring or not. Thanks for the tips 🙂.

I think ENT is the best surg-sub personally, but then again I have no desire to work on the sanitation disposal system of the body either, so I may be biased.

 

[Jwax]

I think ENT is the best surg-sub personally, but then again I have no desire to work on the sanitation disposal system of the body either, so I may be biased.

= ENT, ophtho, derm... 🙂 I could probably add in gas & rads to just try and irritate as many people as possible. 😉

 

[masterofmonkeys]

Jwax did you just insult me in that thread on overweight in med school?

if so I hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Jwax]

Jwax did you just insult me in that thread on overweight in med school?

if so I hate you!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I was complimenting you. I'm actually quite intrigued by whatever it is you know about diet & exercise, curious enough that I've been tempted to ask you to spell it out in detail so I can pick up on it. I didn't realize running was useless. I just picked up running a few weeks ago. I also am trying to swim once a week and ultimately throw yoga in the mix as well. I can't swim often because I have either allergic contact dermatitis or aquagenic urticaria. So... since I was thinking these thoughts I figured you should write a book. Then I would know what I'm supposed to do. 🙂

By the way - I asked one of the 4th years going into urology what the weekend commitment was and he advised me that they expect the students to round at least one day of the weekend. In case anyone was burning with curiosity.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

By the way - I asked one of the 4th years going into urology what the weekend commitment was and he advised me that they expect the students to round at least one day of the weekend. In case anyone was burning with curiosity.

My impression of the urology selective, as someone who did not do it, is that it will crush any lingering surgical desires out of you, unless you're really wanting to do some kind of surgery.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

This is the nice thing about selectives in Tulsa. We don't have the residency programs here, so you don't have ridiculous hours. I guess that's also a downside if you really want to do that specialty, and our scheduling is inconvenient (EM and anes are only offered in 4 week blocks, etc.). Personally I have about zero interest in doing any of the remaining selectives and am kind of bummed that I have to do them. I liked derm and am liking radiology. EM and Anes might be OK, but they sound a little work intensive.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keA8lG-jTI0&feature=player_embedded[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Jwax]

My impression of the urology selective, as someone who did not do it, is that it will crush any lingering surgical desires out of you, unless you're really wanting to do some kind of surgery.

Well, then that would serve a purpose, too. I'll take another look at my options since our selective choices aren't due until after exams. Your radiology interest group meeting made me give radiology a second thought. 12 weeks vacation a year for that ridiculous kind of money? Nice. Shame it's such a snooze. 😉

Got my schedule picked. No back-to-back selective schedules were available, so no Tulsa EM for me 3rd year. Guess I'll have to do it 4th year. I'm starting with peds though so I will get to go to Vegas Thursday night 🙂. Hooray for a bachelorette party in Vegas! You can't beat that.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Well, then that would serve a purpose, too. I'll take another look at my options since our selective choices aren't due until after exams. Your radiology interest group meeting made me give radiology a second thought. 12 weeks vacation a year for that ridiculous kind of money? Nice. Shame it's such a snooze. 😉

Got my schedule picked. No back-to-back selective schedules were available, so no Tulsa EM for me 3rd year. Guess I'll have to do it 4th year. I'm starting with peds though so I will get to go to Vegas Thursday night 🙂. Hooray for a bachelorette party in Vegas! You can't beat that.

Sorry I didn't have more time to talk before you had to leave. I have to admit, I was a little shocked by the salaries they were talking about.

 

[glp]

I'm starting with peds though so I will get to go to Vegas Thursday night 🙂. Hooray for a bachelorette party in Vegas! You can't beat that.

i dont know what you've been told about peds but wards are 6 days/wk with call and all that crap. if i were you, id try to get a hold of the clerkship coordinator (linda alexander) to make sure that you are on outpatient (and not newborn nursery) whenever you are planning on going.

 

[Jwax]

i dont know what you've been told about peds but wards are 6 days/wk with call and all that crap. if i were you, id try to get a hold of the clerkship coordinator (linda alexander) to make sure that you are on outpatient (and not newborn nursery) whenever you are planning on going.

I did that back in February when I was trying to figure out which rotations I could/should take 🙂. I'm a pre-planner. She's told me if I take the right rotation that week the could accommodate me (cardio is what she recommended). I sent her another email this afternoon to confirm before I book my flight.

 

[glp]

I did that back in February when I was trying to figure out which rotations I could/should take 🙂. I'm a pre-planner. She's told me if I take the right rotation that week the could accommodate me (cardio is what she recommended). I sent her another email this afternoon to confirm before I book my flight.

exactly. sounds like u got it figured out. 2 wks in peds are cush, cardio is a good choice. the remaining 4 are busy. im a non-pre-planner. i forgot to make rotation request for FM, peds, and psych. turned out OK though.

 

[Jwax]

Anyone want to narrow down what pictures I should put the most emphasis on for IHI? I just downloaded all the slides that one of our classmates puts together of all the pictures and several of these ~15 ppts have ~100 slides. 😱 Umm... k. That's not happening. Anyone remember?

I love how they expect us to memorize 500 pictures from each section for 3 questions. 🙄

Amx - shouldn't you know you're soon to be salary? 😉 (I'm teasing) I didn't think you knew what I looked like. So much for thinking I was incognito.

 

[masterofmonkeys]

Amx - shouldn't you know you're soon to be salary?

Maybe he does. But as a future academic psychiatrist, I am studiously avoiding thinking about how little I'll be making after 6 years of training, compared to, well, just about anyone else with 6 years of training. Blah. Granted, if I can get off the ground in sports shrinkage, that'll be a tidy little bonus though.

 

[soonereng]

Granted, if I can get off the ground in sports shrinkage, that'll be a tidy little bonus though.

The first thought that came into my head with "sports shrinkage" was anabolic steroids, not psychiatry. This made the second half of the sentence which said "tidy little bonus" quite amusing to me.

OK back to discussing salaries. It just tickled my funny bone.

 

[Non-TradTulsa]

Jwax - congrats on getting your schedule worked-out. But, don't be so quick to box yourself in - trust me, you will be a far different person coming out of 3rd year than you will be going in. You may fall in love with something you never expected to - and, if you do one week of your Surgery rotation and swear that you never want to see the inside of the O.R. ever again (except as an anesthesiologist, of course) - well, you won't be the first.

Me - I'm thinking maybe I need to give psychiatry a second look. It would be nice if we could get some more electives in during fourth year before you have to make a final decision!

 

[Jwax]

Jwax - congrats on getting your schedule worked-out. But, don't be so quick to box yourself in - trust me, you will be a far different person coming out of 3rd year than you will be going in. You may fall in love with something you never expected to - and, if you do one week of your Surgery rotation and swear that you never want to see the inside of the O.R. ever again (except as an anesthesiologist, of course) - well, you won't be the first

No boxes for me. I've got a pretty strong suspicion I'll end up in EM b/c there are just so many pluses to it, but I've got a list of 10 other options that I would consider. I had to throw radiology on there after the rad meeting, but I don't imagine my grades / board scores will be adequate to get into the field. OBGYN is the one field I haven't really had much exposure to, so I have no idea how I'll feel about it. It's the one x factor I can think of for next year. I might really like catching babies. I loved the gyn onc / gyn surg first year mini-rotation (but I hated reproductive path). I also don't love the idea of a 4 year (surgical-esque) residency + 2? 3? years of fellowship. What nut job would choose that over ~36-48 hour / week career after only 3 year residency w/no fellowship? No call?

Anyways - have fun exploring psych non-trad. I guess you got out of the medicine box 🙂.

 

[Jwax]

<---- doesn't want to learn lymphomas/leukemias or anything about the skin or the mouth 😴

I could probably just say "doesn't want to learn anything". Sigh. At least it's better than studying neuro. 😉

Soonereng - I don't think the word "shrinkage" can be used under any circumstance that doesn't make me giggle.

 

[Amxcvbcv]

Why is the background of the MS2 page on Hippocrates bright blue? Are they trying to give you a headache?

 

[soonereng]

Why is the background of the MS2 page on Hippocrates bright blue? Are they trying to give you a headache?

It has to do with what browser you're using I think. I use Firefox and IE. It's blue in Firefox and white in IE.

 

[soonereng]

Soonereng - I don't think the word "shrinkage" can be used under any circumstance that doesn't make me giggle.

I always think of the Seinfeld episode where George is seen naked by Seinfeld's girlfriend, anyway he goes on and on about getting out of the pool and there being shrinkage.

Enjoy these classic TV moments.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cUNNKzj_Nc[/YOUTUBE]


[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm3F9piwnTU&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Mr. Freeze]

What nut job would choose that over ~36-48 hour / week career after only 3 year residency w/no fellowship? No call?

Someone who wouldn't ever wonder what they were gonna do when they got tired of nights, every physician pretty much hating you, and dealing with societal scurge...😀

 

[Jwax]

Someone who wouldn't ever wonder what they were gonna do when they got tired of nights, every physician pretty much hating you, and dealing with societal scurge...😀

Solution: work at an urgent care center. Or possibly a very rural hospital where people really don't go to the doctor as much except when they're really sick. At least, I'm under the impression that rural folk are quite a bit more conservative about going to the hospital.

I've never been comfortable with the idea of doing only one thing every day for the rest of my life. Another big plus w/EM is that I wouldn't have to. There are so many different environments in which you can work and many ways to use that hard earned degree. I need options in order to function.

<---58% average for webpath heme/onc run through. Sweet. These diseases are just all too similar and it gets so confusing in my little head.

 

[PreMedMommy]

<---- doesn't want to learn lymphomas/leukemias or anything about the skin or the mouth 😴

I could probably just say "doesn't want to learn anything". Sigh. At least it's better than studying neuro. 😉

Soonereng - I don't think the word "shrinkage" can be used under any circumstance that doesn't make me giggle.

I officially hate you.





J/K

 

[soonereng]

I officially hate you.

There you are! I was beginning to wonder if all the first years had banned themselves from SDN (which might not be that bad an idea for myself honestly...I can't seem to get in the test block mode).

 

[shortitalian]

i can't seem to get in the test block mode.

+1

 

[Jwax]

There you are! I was beginning to wonder if all the first years had banned themselves from SDN (which might not be that bad an idea for myself honestly...I can't seem to get in the test block mode).

Agreed. I was sad without the 1st years comments. That's two comments about hating me in a week. Sweet. 😉

I'm pretty much in TB mode. I need to perform at least as good as my best IHI exam score for the last two exams or I'm in trouble. 😱 I have no idea if I can pull it off.

 

[soonereng]

I'm pretty much in TB mode. I need to perform at least as good as my best IHI exam score for the last two exams or I'm in trouble. 😱 I have no idea if I can pull it off.

I'm banking on doing well on the heme/onc portion of the test because this derm doesn't seem to be sticking very well. Derm just really does not interest me at all, but I'm still going to sign up for a selective in it just in case. 😀

 

[soonereng]

Anyone want to narrow down what pictures I should put the most emphasis on for IHI?

Does no one remember on this? Not that I would hold it against you for not remembering 8 random images from a year ago. 😎

 

[Jwax]

Does no one remember on this? Not that I would hold it against you for not remembering 8 random images from a year ago. 😎

I've tried to think if I can remember any of the images from earlier in the year.... and I cannot. All I remember was a picture of a brain when the question talked about a glomerulus...? That's the only one I vaguely recall. So I wouldn't be surprised if no one remembers.

Derm is not remotely sticking with me either. It just sounds like gibberish.

 

[soonereng]

My pre-test-block entertainment. I think the first years will especially get a kick out of it since it mentions a neuro test!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYbr1XJZQBg[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Bravofriendly]

Agreed. I was sad without the 1st years comments.

We can't have a sad Jwax.

Mostly I just backed off because all my posts sound whiney and/or sarcastic. And from the perspective of everyone in upper classes, that must sound annoying and from the perspective of people trying to get in it must be incensing.

Also, I just generally started getting annoyed with forum d-bags who only want to argue, though admittedly there isn't usually alot of that on this thread. I figured I was stressed enough overall that I didn't need to mess with that, too. OU's SDN crew has been a huge part of easing my newb anxieties, so that probably wasn't much of a reason for staying away from this particular thread.

On a curious note, I think I'm finally starting to feel like less of a poser and more like an actual med student. Well, mostly.

 

[Jwax]

On a curious note, I think I'm finally starting to feel like less of a poser and more like an actual med student. Well, mostly.

I think I started feeling like a real med student somewhere in the second semester. Having had anatomy in undergrad made me feel like first semester wasn't quite as big of a deal. I knew nothing about neuro, phys, or histo coming into this so 2nd semester was a whole new ballgame. 2nd year = real med school, too. 3rd year probably = real med school. 4th year = not so much med school, from what I hear... 🙂

I can't believe how bad I'm going to do today. It's a little ridiculous. It is amazing how even if you put in a lot of effort for something, it still isn't near enough. The da** smear findings and leukemias and lymphomas just aren't sticking with me. I have put so much effort on heme onc at the expense of derm and I'm pretty sure I'm going to better on derm by pure lucky guessing than I will on heme w/all the studying. So so so tired of 2nd year.

 

[PreMedMommy]

My pre-test-block entertainment. I think the first years will especially get a kick out of it since it mentions a neuro test!

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYbr1XJZQBg[/YOUTUBE]

I cracked up when that song had the Class of 2012's motto in it. FML!

We can't have a sad Jwax.

Mostly I just backed off because all my posts sound whiney and/or sarcastic. And from the perspective of everyone in upper classes, that must sound annoying and from the perspective of people trying to get in it must be incensing.

Also, I just generally started getting annoyed with forum d-bags who only want to argue, though admittedly there isn't usually alot of that on this thread. I figured I was stressed enough overall that I didn't need to mess with that, too. OU's SDN crew has been a huge part of easing my newb anxieties, so that probably wasn't much of a reason for staying away from this particular thread.

On a curious note, I think I'm finally starting to feel like less of a poser and more like an actual med student. Well, mostly.

What she said.