While searching on E-Bay for NBDE materials, i came across an copy of the 2000 NBDE part 1 exam that was for sale. The vendor stated that he didn't know how it got out but that it was circulating through his/her school. I then found other copies of it for sale elsewhere on the internet and quite a few have been sold. I was wondering if anyone out there has seen a copy of this? Is it legit? Is it worth the $40 that they are asking on ebay?
Unreleased 2000 NBDE part 1
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I'm still sticking by my initial view that it isn't legit, but we'll see what other people have to say about it...
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Purchase it and let us know!
Obviously, I'm not going to say that I've seen it or have it, because somehow that could get a person in trouble. Lets just say I know someone who has it. It is legit? I would have to guess that it is. It says 2000 right on the bottom, just like the regular exams and the pilot. The questions are the same format, and I would say that someone has way too much time on their hands if they have enough time to go through and reformat 400 questions, change the order, and make a fakery for the simple reason of screwing over a few dental students, or I guess by now, half of the dental students in america who have heard about it. The one I hypothetically saw was missing some 20 questions from one of the sections, and there were no corrected answers, just those that had been circled and changed like so many archives I'm sure you've all seen. Of course, I'm only speaking hypothetically here, for obvious reasons. I feel though that its kinda Bull@#$% that some people pass this information around their schools and half the country refuses to believe that it exists. And somehow its still unreleased. Study hard people, gametime is fast approaching.
sandman said:
The one reason I hesitate to validate the exam is because I find it hard to believe that word of it hasn't traveled throughout dental schools quicker! It isn't exactly easy to keep something like that a secret, so the fact that so few people know about it is what worries me.
But of course, having one extra exam to study from won't make or break anybody when it comes Board time.
Well, whether it's real or not, a lot of students at my school had no idea what the heck the Dental Decks were.
I'm not surprised this hasn't spread word. This is the first time i heard of an unreleased 2000. But, then again, I'm not allowed to take the boards till february.
I'm not surprised this hasn't spread word. This is the first time i heard of an unreleased 2000. But, then again, I'm not allowed to take the boards till february.
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I have a friend who has the 2000 exam. He's supposed to give it to me in a few weeks so I can start studying for December. One method is to have each person in your class memorize a few questions and type them out later.
PashaJ said:
Very true, and this has been mentioned by several SDNers in the past years. But still, that wouldn't qualify as an unreleased exam, but simply students attempting to put together what they remember from an exam. Very different things in my book.
PashaJ said:
From what I've read this is the format of the Part II study materials. Its more of a collection of what people recalled being on the exam. I'd suggest starting a thread on this for Part I when we start taking the tests, but then again, I'm sure once people are done taking it, helping someone else do better then them won't be too high on the list of things to do.
Part I unreleased is not in a recollection format, its structured like the released exams.
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Gavin,
I don't understand why you terminated the other post that was started on this subject. The "item" that was for sale is no more illegal than the rest of the materials that 90% of the people on here use. Kaplan has strict reproduction/resale policys and yet people still reproduce and resell their products. The same goes with dental decks and old reprints. I'm not saying it's right I just don't understand how you can take such a firm stand on this one "item" and be so lax elsewhere.
I don't understand why you terminated the other post that was started on this subject. The "item" that was for sale is no more illegal than the rest of the materials that 90% of the people on here use. Kaplan has strict reproduction/resale policys and yet people still reproduce and resell their products. The same goes with dental decks and old reprints. I'm not saying it's right I just don't understand how you can take such a firm stand on this one "item" and be so lax elsewhere.
UNLV OMS WANABE said:
I only moderate this forum and can't watch all the happenings in other forums. If you find posts that are selling copyrighted materials in other forums, then you can report them using the "report a post" button that is found down below the username on each post.
Remember, I terminated the post due to violation of TOS, but it was actually Lee who banned the user. Copyright violations are serious enough to warrant that.
A quick browsing of the For Sale forum will show you that Lee and the moderators are very much watching the items that are for sale, as is demonstrated by several threads being closed, as well as usernames being reported to Kaplan and other publishers.
Well said.
A simple search through any of the for sale threads, or pre-dental area, or DAT area all yield a surprising amount of copywritten material. All Kaplan material is illegal unless you specifically have taken the course and purchased the book from them, yet somehow I can go and buy a DAT book with a simple search.
I'm pretty sure everyone in here has copied an old archive for a course. I honestly don't know a single person who has actually purchased a copy of a released board. They're in the reserve section of the library people, right next to the copy machines.
If the testing agency reuses old exam question consistently, I'm sorry. Is the better score the fault of the testing agency or the student who looks at old questions?
Pm me if you want to, I've got to get back to looking over old exams
A simple search through any of the for sale threads, or pre-dental area, or DAT area all yield a surprising amount of copywritten material. All Kaplan material is illegal unless you specifically have taken the course and purchased the book from them, yet somehow I can go and buy a DAT book with a simple search.
I'm pretty sure everyone in here has copied an old archive for a course. I honestly don't know a single person who has actually purchased a copy of a released board. They're in the reserve section of the library people, right next to the copy machines.
If the testing agency reuses old exam question consistently, I'm sorry. Is the better score the fault of the testing agency or the student who looks at old questions?
Pm me if you want to, I've got to get back to looking over old exams
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Come on Gavin, you have to be reasonable, everyone is buying the illegal stuff. Here is a quote from you from a couple of months ago in referance to certain "materials" on CD. I'm just trying to keep things honest in here.
"I think it's a huge problem having it on CD. I have the CD copy of all that stuff AND the actual physical copies, and I'll take the physical copies anyday.
The released exams are especially important, but looking at them on computer just doesn't flow very well."
"I think it's a huge problem having it on CD. I have the CD copy of all that stuff AND the actual physical copies, and I'll take the physical copies anyday.
The released exams are especially important, but looking at them on computer just doesn't flow very well."
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sandman said:
I bought the released board exams from ASDA. They are a fundraiser for ASDA.
UNLV OMS WANABE said:
The issue at hand is not who is using illegal study aids. The issue is placing an ad, in a public forum, for an item that was obtained through illegal means. The exam was UNRELEASED by the ADA, so any attempt to sell it constitutes a copyright violation. This is per the SDN Terms of Service agreement.
I'm excluding myself from this conversation from here on out, but I believe that this is a good discussion, especially since 99% of dental students use the old released exams to study.
ItsGavinC said:
I agree with you. This was probably a stupid place for them to place the ad. My question then, for anyone still remaining in the conversation, is how someone could get this information to those that so desperately need it. Ebay has been mentioned, but there again you run into those damn copyright issues.
Yet another question, as many of you who took the Pilot exam know, the test booklets were given to the students at completion. How is that fair to other students whose schools did not participate in the study?
Does anyone have any information as to whether there was a pilot exam given prior to this year?
