Unsure and in need of help! PSP or Med School right away?

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Medical school right away or PSP?

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Hey guys! So I’ve explained my situation before, but I’m a first generation immigrant, first to graduate college in the family and the first to apply to med school. I attended a PLA public high school with a graduation rate at the time of a 46% and definitely felt the after-effects of attending a poor high school in undergraduate (lack of insight, preparation, etc.)

I still graduated with a 3.8 in biochemistry but I can’t shake off the nerves of being the first to attend medical school and experiencing the “deer in a headlight” effect all over again.

So here’s my situation, I have two medical school acceptances so far and I’m waiting for two more answers. I also applied for the PSP at UofA-P as a possible alternative. It’s a one year master’s program (medicinal science). My thought process is the PSP will allow me to gain the insight and preparation of being in a high speed environment so that I am prepared in med school (completion of program grants admission to med school). However, with that comes along additional loans and a one year delay.

Should I just jump into med school? Is there a thing as finally feeling ready enough? I want to do well, no doubt about it and I’m willing to put in the time and work if it’s useful.

Advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!
 
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Hey guys! So I’ve explained my situation before, but I’m a first generation immigrant, first to graduate college in the family and the first to apply to med school. I attended a PLA public high school with a graduation rate at the time of a 46% and definitely felt the after-effects of attending a poor high school in undergraduate (lack of insight, preparation, etc.)

I still graduated with a 3.8 in biochemistry but I can’t shake off the nerves of being the first to attend medical school and experiencing the “deer in a headlight” effect all over again.

So here’s my situation, I have two medical school acceptances so far and I’m waiting for two more answers. I also applied for the PSP at UofA-P as a possible alternative. It’s a one year master’s program (medicinal science). My thought process is the PSP will allow me to gain the insight and preparation of being in a high speed environment so that I am prepared in med school. However, with that comes along additional loans and a one year delay.

Should I just jump into med school? Is there a thing as finally feeling ready enough? I want to do well, no doubt about it and I’m willing to put in the time and work if it’s useful.

Advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!
Withdrawing not just one but two acceptances from medical school in favor of a masters program will most definitely blacklist you from future medical school applications. It will be very difficult for you to explain the next time around why you checked yes to the “have you ever been accepted to a US medical school?”

From the U of A PSP website: “The program is designed for students who have experienced unique or greater than average challenges in preparing to become competitive medical school applicants.“

You are already a competitive medical school applicant. You are already a successful competitive applicant. Roll with it. Go to medical school. Believe in yourself, you wouldn’t have applied if you didn’t think you could do it.
 
Hey guys! So I’ve explained my situation before, but I’m a first generation immigrant, first to graduate college in the family and the first to apply to med school. I attended a PLA public high school with a graduation rate at the time of a 46% and definitely felt the after-effects of attending a poor high school in undergraduate (lack of insight, preparation, etc.)

I still graduated with a 3.8 in biochemistry but I can’t shake off the nerves of being the first to attend medical school and experiencing the “deer in a headlight” effect all over again.

So here’s my situation, I have two medical school acceptances so far and I’m waiting for two more answers. I also applied for the PSP at UofA-P as a possible alternative. It’s a one year master’s program (medicinal science). My thought process is the PSP will allow me to gain the insight and preparation of being in a high speed environment so that I am prepared in med school (completion of program grants admission to med school). However, with that comes along additional loans and a one year delay.

Should I just jump into med school? Is there a thing as finally feeling ready enough? I want to do well, no doubt about it and I’m willing to put in the time and work if it’s useful.

Advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

My god you got into medical school. Go celebrate!

As my Dean of Admissions tells us on day one - they don't make mistakes.
 
This has got to be one of the more ridiculous things I've seen. You got into med school, want to withdraw and then "try it out" in a different program just to reapply and feel better about being able to handle med school course work? Come on. NO ONE IS EVER GOING TO FEEL READY. That's part of life. Are you going to do the same thing when you're about to start residency? Be an attending the for the firs time ever? Learning to ride a bike and swim? Anyone ever feel they can just take off the first time they do it? Have confidence in yourself and adapt to the challenges.

If you do withdraw you can just kiss your dream goodbye.
 
Hey guys! So I’ve explained my situation before, but I’m a first generation immigrant, first to graduate college in the family and the first to apply to med school. I attended a PLA public high school with a graduation rate at the time of a 46% and definitely felt the after-effects of attending a poor high school in undergraduate (lack of insight, preparation, etc.)

I still graduated with a 3.8 in biochemistry but I can’t shake off the nerves of being the first to attend medical school and experiencing the “deer in a headlight” effect all over again.

So here’s my situation, I have two medical school acceptances so far and I’m waiting for two more answers. I also applied for the PSP at UofA-P as a possible alternative. It’s a one year master’s program (medicinal science). My thought process is the PSP will allow me to gain the insight and preparation of being in a high speed environment so that I am prepared in med school (completion of program grants admission to med school). However, with that comes along additional loans and a one year delay.

Should I just jump into med school? Is there a thing as finally feeling ready enough? I want to do well, no doubt about it and I’m willing to put in the time and work if it’s useful.

Advice would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Just absurd.
 
My god you got into medical school. Go celebrate!

As my Dean of Admissions tells us on day one - they don't make mistakes.

I mean, the guy who was posting pics of his classmates on porn sites was obviously a mistake, so sometimes they do lol. But if the OP isn’t a pervert or a psychopath, I’d say he’s ready to go.
 
Hey guys thank you so much for me the feedback! Attending the program will grant admission to med school so I will not reapply next cycle. It’s focus is to review relevant material, strengthen study habits, allow you to explore specialities from early on, etc. So it seems very beneficial to someone who’s wants to strengthen themselves before starting med school. My nerves of failing or not being able to keep up with classmates are real.. some people were ready from day one, I don’t want to feel like the black sheep who doesn’t belong there.. that’s all, but once again, I do see you guys’s perspective. Again, thank you
 
Hey guys thank you so much for me the feedback! Attending the program will grant admission to med school so I will not reapply next cycle. It’s focus is to review relevant material, strengthen study habits, allow you to explore specialities from early on, etc. So it seems very beneficial to someone who’s wants to strengthen themselves before starting med school.

It’s a waste of time. You got accepted to two schools. That would not have happened if you weren’t ready to handle med school. That extra year is not just an extra year of loans but a lost year of attending salary as well. That’s a huge chunk of change just to put off starting M1 because you’re nervous.

I’m nervous to start too, and I’ve been in fire fights and games of chicken with foreign navies. It’s a perfectly normal response and is not any indication that you’re not ready. There are tons of people that start med school with very minimal science background and do just fine.

Don’t put yourself in more debt and sacrifice a few hundred thousand dollars in lost income because you’re doubting yourself.

You. Got. This.
 
So it seems very beneficial to someone who’s wants to strengthen themselves before starting med school.

Just going to be blunt - these programs are for people who NEED to strengthen themselves before med school, not people who want to. Medical schools have support systems and recognize that everyone comes in with a different level of experience.

I think you can tell that NO ONE on this site will support what you are suggesting. It's a terrible idea. Go to medical school, and if you need help use the advising and support systems available there to help you.
 
Hey guys thank you so much for me the feedback! Attending the program will grant admission to med school so I will not reapply next cycle. It’s focus is to review relevant material, strengthen study habits, allow you to explore specialities from early on, etc. So it seems very beneficial to someone who’s wants to strengthen themselves before starting med school. My nerves of failing or not being able to keep up with classmates are real.. some people were ready from day one, I don’t want to feel like the black sheep who doesn’t belong there.. that’s all, but once again, I do see you guys’s perspective. Again, thank you
So you want to withdraw acceptance so that you can delay learning the M1 material by paying money to learn the M1 material somewhere else? No, this program/these programs are for people who genuinely need admissions help ie. 2.95 BA in business 10 years ago or consistent 502 MCAT single moms. You do NOT need any extra help. You are nervous and don’t feel ready. You had to struggle to get here, but guess what, you have 2 acceptances and thus are on a pathway to no more struggling! And neither will your children! Be better than your past, don’t succumb to it.
 
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So you want to withdraw acceptance so that you can delay learning the M1 material by paying money to learn the M1 material somewhere else? No, this program/these programs are for people who genuinely need admissions help ie. 2.95 BA in business 10 years ago or consistent 502 MCAT single moms. You do NOT need any extra help. You are nervous and don’t feel ready. You want to play the grew-up-poor card as a reason why you won’t do well. Guess what, you have 2 acceptances and thus are on a pathway to no longer being poor! And neither will your children! Be better than your past, don’t succumb to it.
Thanks for the feedback! If you’ve read my posts, I didn’t play a victim card or claimed that I’ve struggled academically. Also, I didn’t even mention growing up poor (which I will proudly claim, but it was your assumption that I did). I mentioned that my school didn’t not prepare it’s students for the future. Med school isn’t just good grades- which is why I wanted to assure that I was prepared before going in as I’ve already had difficulty in undergraduate years. Feeling isolated, unaware of opportunities etc are all real life factors that I have to consider. I’ve overcome a lot in my life (including dealing with an opioid addicted alcoholic father and brother, domestic violence, etc) all of which I never posted because I don’t play a victim card. The “I grew up poor” isn’t a cliche or an overplayed scheme- it’s a real life struggle for some people to break the cycle. I’ve diverted away from my main point, I’m not here for others to give me pity. I came for legitimate advice. With the familial pressures that I have, I want to assure certain success to ultimately give back to my family and “not be poor.” I don’t know the best way to study for Step 1, or do I involve myself in research now so that I’m competitive later on for residency? What if in my time off I’ve forgotten relevant material (3 years)? My father fell extremely ill and I moved to take care of him, now I feel out of the loop and I’m afraid to start up in a high speed environment without taking precautionary measures. Sorry for the reply being so long, I took it kinda personal
 
Thanks for the feedback! If you’ve read my posts, I didn’t play a victim card or claimed that I’ve struggled academically. Also, I didn’t even mention growing up poor (which I will proudly claim, but it was your assumption that I did). I mentioned that my school didn’t not prepare it’s students for the future. Med school isn’t just good grades- which is why I wanted to assure that I was prepared before going in as I’ve already had difficulty in undergraduate years. Feeling isolated, unaware of opportunities etc are all real life factors that I have to consider. I’ve overcome a lot in my life (including dealing with an opioid addicted alcoholic father and brother, domestic violence, etc) all of which I never posted because I don’t play a victim card. The “I grew up poor” isn’t a cliche or an overplayed scheme- it’s a real life struggle for some people to break the cycle. I’ve diverted away from my main point, I’m not here for others to give me pity. I came for legitimate advice. With the familial pressures that I have, I want to assure certain success to ultimately give back to my family and “not be poor.” I don’t know the best way to study for Step 1, or do I involve myself in research now so that I’m competitive later on for residency? What if in my time off I’ve forgotten relevant material (3 years)? My father fell extremely ill and I moved to take care of him, now I feel out of the loop and I’m afraid to start up in a high speed environment without taking precautionary measures. Sorry for the reply being so long, I took it kinda personal
Thank you for pointing out my misreading/assumption. Edited accordingly.

However, my point and everyone else’s point still stands - chill out. Take the acceptance. It doesn’t matter if you don’t remember the relevant material. I took Gen Chem in high school 8 years ago, still hopped right in to Ochem my first quarter in college and picked up on everything. You will be surprised what your brain is capable of.

Right now is not the right time to worry about whether you will be competitive for residency, worry about that during medical school. Don’t worry about being able to keep up with the material: 90%+ of all matriculates graduate and match. Those who do not graduate and match are either non-academic reasons (arrested, cheating) or the borderline people who should never have been accepted in the first place (2.9cGPA/2.88sGPA/502MCAT). If they can all do it, you can too. Stop stressing, take the acceptances.
 
Thanks for the feedback! If you’ve read my posts, I didn’t play a victim card or claimed that I’ve struggled academically. Also, I didn’t even mention growing up poor (which I will proudly claim, but it was your assumption that I did). I mentioned that my school didn’t not prepare it’s students for the future. Med school isn’t just good grades- which is why I wanted to assure that I was prepared before going in as I’ve already had difficulty in undergraduate years. Feeling isolated, unaware of opportunities etc are all real life factors that I have to consider. I’ve overcome a lot in my life (including dealing with an opioid addicted alcoholic father and brother, domestic violence, etc) all of which I never posted because I don’t play a victim card. The “I grew up poor” isn’t a cliche or an overplayed scheme- it’s a real life struggle for some people to break the cycle. I’ve diverted away from my main point, I’m not here for others to give me pity. I came for legitimate advice. With the familial pressures that I have, I want to assure certain success to ultimately give back to my family and “not be poor.” I don’t know the best way to study for Step 1, or do I involve myself in research now so that I’m competitive later on for residency? What if in my time off I’ve forgotten relevant material (3 years)? My father fell extremely ill and I moved to take care of him, now I feel out of the loop and I’m afraid to start up in a high speed environment without taking precautionary measures. Sorry for the reply being so long, I took it kinda personal

What was the point of making this thread if you just wanted confirmation for the decision you already made? Everyone on this thread is trying to reassure you that there's no reason for you to not start med school now. Even if you majored in biochem, everyone is pretty much on even footing after the first month or so. You've been accepted.
 
What was the point of making this thread if you just wanted confirmation for the decision you already made? Everyone on this thread is trying to reassure you that there's no reason for you to not start med school now. Even if you majored in biochem, everyone is pretty much on even footing after the first month or so. You've been accepted.
I haven’t made my decision yet.. again my posts states if you are non-traditional student, who’s taken time off, who’s the first to graduate in your family, are you setting yourself up for failure if you attend med school right away. The PSP program presented itself after I applied to med school. Now I’m stuck with taking a risk or playing it safe.
 
I haven’t made my decision yet.. again my posts states if you are non-traditional student, who’s taken time off, who’s the first to graduate in your family, are you setting yourself up for failure if you attend med school right away. The PSP program presented itself after I applied to med school. Now I’m stuck with taking a risk or playing it safe.
You are not setting yourself up for failure! If you are good enough to get in then you are good enough to get out. The fact that the PSP presented after graduation tells me they are just preying on your insecurities for money.
 
Congratulations!
I understand this is a unique place to be in, understandable too the nervously and hesitantly you are. Let’s say everyone borns again when medical school starts. You will work hard then and tackle any worries with work.


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You guys are awesome.. a bit harsh, but awesome! The replies have been useful and I’m definitely leaning towards attending med school right away. I’ve questioned whether I was ready or not, and just now spoke to a few PSP graduates about whether the program gave them a head start as an M1. I guess no one can tell me whether I’m able to succeed with either path or not. The PSP means I’ll stay closer to home, rather than going far away, which would have been a major plus. In any case, I’ve found the answers I was seeking, thanks guys!
 
I hear you OP, and can empathize with your feelings. The struggles you have faced (and very-successfully overcome, by the way) are real, and yes, you are likely to face them again in medical school. I would suggest that your observations that you are at a disadvantage due to your upbringing are accurate -- There's background stuff that students from upper-middle-class families just know -- things that are effortless for them that you will have to think about and learn.

But you got this. You've done it before, as evidenced by your 3.8 BioChem GPA and two acceptances already. You are, without a doubt, as academically prepared as you need to be. So the program you're asking about wouldn't be necessary or appropriate for you.

However, there are other areas where you're likely to struggle, and those are the areas you can try to prepare for now. From your multiple acceptances, choose the school that you feel will support you best. Look at academic advising, mentorship, residency placement advising. How do they handle students who are struggling and what are their policies? (I think you'll be OK academically, but best to know what resources are available and how forgiving they are -- just in case.) Consider which environment you will find more supportive.

What will you say and do when someone in your family struggles and needs bailing out? You mentioned a history of familial substance abuse. That frequently entails a pattern of chronic emergencies that could easily suck you under. Do you want to be close enough to drop everything and help? Know that your work will suffer - possibly fatally - if you do. Or are you more likely to succeed farther from home? Be brutally honest with yourself here and not afraid to prioritize your long term goals over your family's short-term needs. Money doesn't solve all of life's problems, but is enormously helpful for the majority. Secure your own future and you will be able to help much more effectively later on.

Anyway -- All I'm really trying to say is that you've demonstrated that you can do this. Locate potential support services before you need them, then reach out quickly if you determine that you do need help. Everybody at your school wants you to succeed and will help you if you ask.
 
I haven’t made my decision yet.. again my posts states if you are non-traditional student, who’s taken time off, who’s the first to graduate in your family, are you setting yourself up for failure if you attend med school right away. The PSP program presented itself after I applied to med school. Now I’m stuck with taking a risk or playing it safe.

I am an extremely non-traditional student. Starting med school when you’ve been accepted is not a risk. You’re just nervous. This is a great chance to start being comfortable being uncomfortable, which you will be doing a lot in medicine.

Congrats on your acceptance. Let’s go be doctors.
 
I guess no one can tell me whether I’m able to succeed with either path or not.

We ARE trying to tell you, you’re just not listening. If you defer two acceptances, you are dead in the water if you try to re-apply later. You will no longer have two paths to choose from. Take the medical school acceptance and don’t look back.


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I guess no one can tell me whether I’m able to succeed with either path or not.

We have. You’re just ignoring it because you want someone to tell you to do the PSP. You have gotten into med school. Like 95% of people who start succeed, and the other 5% are mostly due to mental health issues. You are very unlikely to not succeed.
 
I hear you OP, and can empathize with your feelings. The struggles you have faced (and very-successfully overcome, by the way) are real, and yes, you are likely to face them again in medical school. I would suggest that your observations that you are at a disadvantage due to your upbringing are accurate -- There's background stuff that students from upper-middle-class families just know -- things that are effortless for them that you will have to think about and learn.

But you got this. You've done it before, as evidenced by your 3.8 BioChem GPA and two acceptances already. You are, without a doubt, as academically prepared as you need to be. So the program you're asking about wouldn't be necessary or appropriate for you.

However, there are other areas where you're likely to struggle, and those are the areas you can try to prepare for now. From your multiple acceptances, choose the school that you feel will support you best. Look at academic advising, mentorship, residency placement advising. How do they handle students who are struggling and what are their policies? (I think you'll be OK academically, but best to know what resources are available and how forgiving they are -- just in case.) Consider which environment you will find more supportive.

What will you say and do when someone in your family struggles and needs bailing out? You mentioned a history of familial substance abuse. That frequently entails a pattern of chronic emergencies that could easily suck you under. Do you want to be close enough to drop everything and help? Know that your work will suffer - possibly fatally - if you do. Or are you more likely to succeed farther from home? Be brutally honest with yourself here and not afraid to prioritize your long term goals over your family's short-term needs. Money doesn't solve all of life's problems, but is enormously helpful for the majority. Secure your own future and you will be able to help much more effectively later on.

Anyway -- All I'm really trying to say is that you've demonstrated that you can do this. Locate potential support services before you need them, then reach out quickly if you determine that you do need help. Everybody at your school wants you to succeed and will help you if you ask.
Omg! You literally hit the nail on the head for every fear and worry that I have. I couldn’t have worded anything more perfectly, I’ve witnessed how people underestimated the psychosocial factors that attribute to different levels of success. I was afraid that moving away from my family was selfish, but then again I would ultimately compromise my success and ability to help them later on the future anyhow. Thank you so much for empathizing, you just made my day. The schools offer an amazing support system and the students reported feeling
I hear you OP, and can empathize with your feelings. The struggles you have faced (and very-successfully overcome, by the way) are real, and yes, you are likely to face them again in medical school. I would suggest that your observations that you are at a disadvantage due to your upbringing are accurate -- There's background stuff that students from upper-middle-class families just know -- things that are effortless for them that you will have to think about and learn.

But you got this. You've done it before, as evidenced by your 3.8 BioChem GPA and two acceptances already. You are, without a doubt, as academically prepared as you need to be. So the program you're asking about wouldn't be necessary or appropriate for you.

However, there are other areas where you're likely to struggle, and those are the areas you can try to prepare for now. From your multiple acceptances, choose the school that you feel will support you best. Look at academic advising, mentorship, residency placement advising. How do they handle students who are struggling and what are their policies? (I think you'll be OK academically, but best to know what resources are available and how forgiving they are -- just in case.) Consider which environment you will find more supportive.

What will you say and do when someone in your family struggles and needs bailing out? You mentioned a history of familial substance abuse. That frequently entails a pattern of chronic emergencies that could easily suck you under. Do you want to be close enough to drop everything and help? Know that your work will suffer - possibly fatally - if you do. Or are you more likely to succeed farther from home? Be brutally honest with yourself here and not afraid to prioritize your long term goals over your family's short-term needs. Money doesn't solve all of life's problems, but is enormously helpful for the majority. Secure your own future and you will be able to help much more effectively later on.

Anyway -- All I'm really trying to say is that you've demonstrated that you can do this. Locate potential support services before you need them, then reach out quickly if you determine that you do need help. Everybody at your school wants you to succeed and will help you if you ask.

Omg! You literally hit the nail on the head for every fear and worry that I have and I couldn’t have worded anything more perfectly. Thank you for empathizing and recognizing my concerns! People often underestimate how psychosocial factors can attribute to different levels of success. I worried that if I moved far away, that I would be somewhat neglectful towards my family but your point in that it will ultimately be a hassle with all my studies is so true. The schools offer great support, learning specialists, and advisors. Your post made my day <3
 
We ARE trying to tell you, you’re just not listening. If you defer two acceptances, you are dead in the water if you try to re-apply later. You will no longer have two paths to choose from. Take the medical school acceptance and don’t look back.


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I’m listening now! I’ll take the plunge and accept the offers, thank you!
 
We have. You’re just ignoring it because you want someone to tell you to do the PSP. You have gotten into med school. Like 95% of people who start succeed, and the other 5% are mostly due to mental health issues. You are very unlikely to not succeed.
No longer seeking for someone to tell me I need to prepare more before starting med school. Like you said, let’s go be great doctors!
 
You guys are awesome.. a bit harsh, but awesome! The replies have been useful and I’m definitely leaning towards attending med school right away. I’ve questioned whether I was ready or not, and just now spoke to a few PSP graduates about whether the program gave them a head start as an M1. I guess no one can tell me whether I’m able to succeed with either path or not. The PSP means I’ll stay closer to home, rather than going far away, which would have been a major plus. In any case, I’ve found the answers I was seeking, thanks guys!

What is obvious is that if you're in medical school and you run into problems the school will support you in many ways in order to KEEP YOU FROM FAILING OUT. If you do this PSP program and struggle you will NEVER GET INTO MEDICAL SCHOOL. Those are facts. Once you're in, the schools will do everything in their power to keep you in and graduate you. Very few reasons will they dismiss you.
 
I haven’t made my decision yet.. again my posts states if you are non-traditional student, who’s taken time off, who’s the first to graduate in your family, are you setting yourself up for failure if you attend med school right away. The PSP program presented itself after I applied to med school. Now I’m stuck with taking a risk or playing it safe.

I am a non-trad. I took three years off. I was the first to graduate in my family. We have similar upbringings from the looks of it..

You’re absolutely not setting yourself up for failure. You were admitted, which means two different adcoms think you have what it takes!! Imposter syndrome is a real thing, but quit letting that voice of self doubt in your head get to you. You deserve to be a doctor!
 
Med school is hard, and can be stressful for most. Wife went to class to be social and graduated near top 10%. For the vast number of mere mortals like myself, med school IS doable if you have any kind of work ethic. Your family will have to understand you might not be available for every crisis. You have demonstrated that you have all the skills necessary to be successful. As posted earlier, ADCOMS dont make mistakes.
Good luck and best wishes on your new career!
 
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