I'm sorry but none of these sound like concrete reasons not to do the program. I appreciate the input and of course I want to know if it will be a bad investment because I would avoid it. Like you said, if it is disorganized and has ineffective teachers, I believe thats a solid reason. However, I believe that is no loner the case. As for no guarantee, nothing in life is ever guaranteed.... so who cares, a 45 and a 4.0 isn't even guaranteed admission. And just because a few kids y'all know can't get into an MD program really doesn't mean anything to me. Also, difficulty to get good grades because theres not a curve is ridiculous. Please understand I'm not trying to stir the pot, I just really want solid information as I am about 90% I will be enrolling in this program.