Using lightyear as a first year?

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This Fall I begin school at a systems based program and I am preparing myself for the crapstorm ahead. I want a decent board score, and I know that requires some elbow grease on my part.


Saying that, I’ve spent the past few days searching SDN and Reddit about the different types of resources. After visiting websites like B&B, Sketchy, Pathoma, etc. I realized I love B&B. So, I want to use Lightyear and B&B when I begin (I know I sound like a gunner, but ya boy struggles with standardized test lol).


For those that use LY and BB, how do you integrate other resources? I know Sketchy and Pathoma are the gold standard, but I’m trying to prevent resource overload and I don’t want a lot of redundancy. Could I just use LY, BB, and Sketchy? Then focus on the minutiae that my instructors throw at me for class?


Also, if you use those three resources, how do you fit them in your day? We have mandatory lecture and I don’t want to study until midnight. I guess I’m just naive to how long it takes to watch the videos for a class, review the cards, and go on about your day. Any help would be appreciated.

Edit: I know there are guides out there, but none seem to discuss lightyear and what resources are best used with it.
 
For those that use LY and BB, how do you integrate other resources? I know Sketchy and Pathoma are the gold standard, but I’m trying to prevent resource overload and I don’t want a lot of redundancy. Could I just use LY, BB, and Sketchy? Then focus on the minutiae that my instructors throw at me for class?

Also, if you use those three resources, how do you fit them in your day? We have mandatory lecture and I don’t want to study until midnight. I guess I’m just naive to how long it takes to watch the videos for a class, review the cards, and go on about your day. Any help would be appreciated.

I have't dabbled too much with Lightyear, but as of now for Bugs & Drugs I'm using Zanki + lolnotacop (compilation of Sketchy and B&B) and have thus found it to be extremely useful. For the other systems, I just used Zanki + B&B.

I recommend viewing the lectures or at least the learning objectives and use B&B lectures for further clarification or iteration of the material. Note that each video varies in length (8 minutes to 35 minutes) and for me, there are about 4-5 videos per unit exam. Concurrently, I would sort through my Anki cards and suspend the irrelevant cards (e.g. my school introduces most pathology in our second pass), and then go through my cards each day. It takes me about 2-3 hours per day to run through the cards, which includes the new and review cards.
 
Before the block starts go through Lightyear and pick out the cards that are relevant to the current block. Then during the block watch the B&B videos and study the cards. Then a couple of days before the test go over class ppts to pick up any points and minutiae your professors might emphasize. This should be enough to comfortably pass your exams. If it is not then you will want to focus more on your class ppts because your professors are testing low-yield material. Also anatomy is it's own beast and you will probably need to make your own cards to supplement what's in Lightyear.

Lightyear does not cover micro as well as Sketchy does so you will have to work that into your schedule. If your school is mandatory attendance like mine, just literally sit in the back and ignore the lecture with your headphones. Just treat the classroom like you are in the library.
 
I have't dabbled too much with Lightyear, but as of now for Bugs & Drugs I'm using Zanki + lolnotacop (compilation of Sketchy and B&B) and have thus found it to be extremely useful. For the other systems, I just used Zanki + B&B.

I recommend viewing the lectures or at least the learning objectives and use B&B lectures for further clarification or iteration of the material. Note that each video varies in length (8 minutes to 35 minutes) and for me, there are about 4-5 videos per unit exam. Concurrently, I would sort through my Anki cards and suspend the irrelevant cards (e.g. my school introduces most pathology in our second pass), and then go through my cards each day. It takes me about 2-3 hours per day to run through the cards, which includes the new and review cards.


Thank you for the info! I haven’t heard of Lolnotacop yet. I will definitely look it up and see if it is something I would enjoy using. So, is most of your time spent reviewing Anki cards on a daily basis?

Before the block starts go through Lightyear and pick out the cards that are relevant to the current block. Then during the block watch the B&B videos and study the cards. Then a couple of days before the test go over class ppts to pick up any points and minutiae your professors might emphasize. This should be enough to comfortably pass your exams. If it is not then you will want to focus more on your class ppts because your professors are testing low-yield material. Also anatomy is it's own beast and you will probably need to make your own cards to supplement what's in Lightyear.

Lightyear does not cover micro as well as Sketchy does so you will have to work that into your schedule. If your school is mandatory attendance like mine, just literally sit in the back and ignore the lecture with your headphones. Just treat the classroom like you are in the library.

You are the bomb! My school is mandatory, so I will follow that advice. Other than Lightyear and Sketchy, are there any other resources you would recommend? I’m glad most people just ignore class lecture and do their own thing. Looks like a good pair of headphones will be a good investment lol.
 
Thank you for the info! I haven’t heard of Lolnotacop yet. I will definitely look it up and see if it is something I would enjoy using. So, is most of your time spent reviewing Anki cards on a daily basis?

I would say generally 50/50 between Anki vs. lecture and supplemental videos. However, on days that I don't study much I still manage to do my Anki cards.
 
I would say generally 50/50 between Anki vs. lecture and supplemental videos. However, on days that I don't study much I still manage to do my Anki cards.

Awesome! It seems like the consensus is to never skip doing your Anki/Zanki cards. Thank you for the advice. I can somewhat relax knowing I can tackle my first few days of med school with a plan.
 
Has anyone tried firecracker? I read a lot of good feedback about it. It is supposed to be intense but with the money. Thoughts?
 
Has anyone tried firecracker? I read a lot of good feedback about it. It is supposed to be intense but with the money. Thoughts?

This is the link that steered me away from FC:

I have heard from multiple sources that it is really clunky.
 
I dont understand how people have the time to use board material first year on top of class and study for class unless you are a PBL student. I use sketchy micro for micro and do practice questions from board books when im done studying slides for my courses but that is it. Second year I will be switching to board material during the year and I'm sure my grades will drop but first year I'm literally studying 95% class slides and do well. Am I missing something?
 
This Fall I begin school at a systems based program and I am preparing myself for the crapstorm ahead. I want a decent board score, and I know that requires some elbow grease on my part.


Saying that, I’ve spent the past few days searching SDN and Reddit about the different types of resources. After visiting websites like B&B, Sketchy, Pathoma, etc. I realized I love B&B. So, I want to use Lightyear and B&B when I begin (I know I sound like a gunner, but ya boy struggles with standardized test lol).


For those that use LY and BB, how do you integrate other resources? I know Sketchy and Pathoma are the gold standard, but I’m trying to prevent resource overload and I don’t want a lot of redundancy. Could I just use LY, BB, and Sketchy? Then focus on the minutiae that my instructors throw at me for class?


Also, if you use those three resources, how do you fit them in your day? We have mandatory lecture and I don’t want to study until midnight. I guess I’m just naive to how long it takes to watch the videos for a class, review the cards, and go on about your day. Any help would be appreciated.

Edit: I know there are guides out there, but none seem to discuss lightyear and what resources are best used with it.
I'm not familiar with light year, can you let us know more about it? I'm always on the prowl for useful Board review materials for my students.
 
I dont understand how people have the time to use board material first year on top of class and study for class unless you are a PBL student. I use sketchy micro for micro and do practice questions from board books when im done studying slides for my courses but that is it. Second year I will be switching to board material during the year and I'm sure my grades will drop but first year I'm literally studying 95% class slides and do well. Am I missing something?

I normally wake up around 5:00 A.M. So, I am hoping I can use that to my advantage. But this is all coming from someone not in medical school. As Mike Tyson said “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” Lol.

I’m just glad that our school records lectures and we can view them later.
 
I'm not familiar with light year, can you let us know more about it? I'm always on the prowl for useful Board review materials for my students.
YES! Definitely. The user lightyear2K on Reddit created an Anki deck based off of B&B. Apparently it has an amazing tagging system and streamlines finding cards.

I like it because I can search for a specific B&B video, and it pulls up the relevant cards for that topic. He/she has some FA, Pathoma, and Uworld thrown in there as well. If I succeed or crash and burn, I’ll be sure to report back lol.


Edit: This is the link the user posted explaining how everything works. A few redditors swear by it, and gave up Zanki (Apparently Zanki is a big deal or something lol).

 
Many thanks, dpt!

One of the traps in thinking about Board prep is that what works for someone else might not work for you, so you have to find what works best for you.

That is great advice. I’ve heard both sides and I know it will boil down to my study style. Honestly, I’m just fearful my school will miss a lot of relevant board prep. I guess we will see in a few months lol. As usual, thank you.
 
Light year is a great resource for solidyfing material shown on the Boards and Beyond Videos. The only con (for first year) is that Dr. Ryan focuses on board relevent material. A lot of people forget is that you need to pass your classes first before you can take boards.

I would be careful with this method in a traditional curriculum in first year. Like @Deecee2DO mentioned, a lot of people need to focus on class material because they focus on low yield information (or information relevent to their own research).

As a first year, I would focus on classes. And possibly supplement with zanki. But upper classmen from your own class would know what works for you better than me.
 
Light year is a great resource for solidyfing material shown on the Boards and Beyond Videos. The only con (for first year) is that Dr. Ryan focuses on board relevent material. A lot of people forget is that you need to pass your classes first before you can take boards.

I would be careful with this method in a traditional curriculum in first year. Like @Deecee2DO mentioned, a lot of people need to focus on class material because they focus on low yield information (or information relevent to their own research).

As a first year, I would focus on classes. And possibly supplement with zanki. But upper classmen from your own class would know what works for you better than me.

What about in a systems based curriculum? I wouldn’t even think about this method in a traditional curriculum, but ours is systems based.
 
Light year is a great resource for solidyfing material shown on the Boards and Beyond Videos. The only con (for first year) is that Dr. Ryan focuses on board relevent material. A lot of people forget is that you need to pass your classes first before you can take boards.

I would be careful with this method in a traditional curriculum in first year. Like @Deecee2DO mentioned, a lot of people need to focus on class material because they focus on low yield information (or information relevent to their own research).

As a first year, I would focus on classes. And possibly supplement with zanki. But upper classmen from your own class would know what works for you better than me.
Maybe you can shed some light on this, but wouldn't it behoove schools to want to teach directly to boards so that their board pass rates and match rates are as high as possible? Why do some M1 curricula do this where faculty teach literally away from board relevant material (low yield minutae). Maybe I am wrong here but in the end, there is no benefit to the school itself or the student once board prep comes along in M2. Maybe @Goro can chime in here with what he knows since I know he seems to teach to boards from what I have gathered on here. We need more faculty like that
 
Maybe you can shed some light on this, but wouldn't it behoove schools to want to teach directly to boards so that their board pass rates and match rates are as high as possible? Why do some M1 curricula do this where faculty teach literally away from board relevant material (low yield minutae). Maybe I am wrong here but in the end, there is no benefit to the school itself or the student once board prep comes along in M2. Maybe @Goro can chime in here with what he knows since I know he seems to teach to boards from what I have gathered on here. We need more faculty like that
I'm getting a whiff of black and white thinking. Yes, you need to pass Boards, but life doesn't end with Step I. You need to be prepared for wards, and so that's why you need to develop your clinical reasoning skills. These come from your pre-clinical curriculum's lectures, but are put into practice in the preclinical labs like "bowel sounds' or "chest sounds" or "taking a sexual history".

Another way of thinking about this is when you get pimped in your rotations. You'll get questions like "what are the causes of heart failure?" or "name some notifiable infectious diseases" or "where is McBurney's Point?" [you better bloody well know the last one!].

This is a different way of thinking than your standardize question with five answers.

I have no problem with teaching to Boards, but studying for your classes IS studying for Boards, and, well, Beyond! I'm a firm believer that if you can reason you way through a clinical problem, then you can handle anything in med school.
 
I'm getting a whiff of black and white thinking. Yes, you need to pass Boards, but life doesn't end with Step I. You need to be prepared for wards, and so that's why you need to develop your clinical reasoning skills. These come from your pre-clinical curriculum's lectures, but are put into practice in the preclinical labs like "bowel sounds' or "chest sounds" or "taking a sexual history".

Another way of thinking about this is when you get pimped in your rotations. You'll get questions like "what are the causes of heart failure?" or "name some notifiable infectious diseases" or "where is McBurney's Point?" [you better bloody well know the last one!].

This is a different way of thinking than your standardize question with five answers.

I have no problem with teaching to Boards, but studying for your classes IS studying for Boards, and, well, Beyond! I'm a firm believer that if you can reason you way through a clinical problem, then you can handle anything in med school.
Great thanks makes sense! How do you feel about professors teaching to their own research?
 
What about in a systems based curriculum? I wouldn’t even think about this method in a traditional curriculum, but ours is systems based.

Maybe. My school is traditional curriculum so thats a better question for someone in a curriculum like yours.

In a traditional curriculum, too much board studying in 1st year is a risk because you might fail classes. This is dependent on how well you can learn/understand professors.

I'm getting a whiff of black and white thinking. Yes, you need to pass Boards, but life doesn't end with Step I. You need to be prepared for wards,

@deecee90 This. When I started utilizing firecracker, I started to realize a lot of the "minute details" some professors stressed were more step/level 2 material.

While this is important, the problem is that is not important right now.

I need to understand the concept before I can get into the details behind step/level 2 relevant material.

Edit: This is just my personal experience. Other schools may do things differently. Personally, I just feel they immediately go to Step/Level 2 material before we cover the concept (level/step 1) beforehand, or I don't have time to really learn it in the first place.
 
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I despise that with the fury of a 1000 supernovas. IF you are on the receiving end of that, complain loudly to your curriculum dean, and THE Dean him/herself as well.

Its a little harder to do that because at least in my schools experience. The curriculum chair or Dean will defer to the teacher "knows whats best".

On top that we are students. So its a little hard for us to really know what "prepares us to become doctors".
 
Its a little harder to do that because at least in my schools experience. The curriculum chair or Dean will defer to the teacher "knows whats best".

On top that we are students. So its a little hard for us to really know what "prepares us to become doctors".
Sorry to hear that. At my school, the Dean is very student-centric.
 
I'm in a systems-based curriculum and I use Zanki alongside school specific lectures. What others have mentioned is important-- you can't disregard your school material, because you still have to pass your classes if you're going to make it to do well on boards.
 
I'm in a systems-based curriculum and I use Zanki alongside school specific lectures. What others have mentioned is important-- you can't disregard your school material, because you still have to pass your classes if you're going to make it to do well on boards.

If you don’t mind me asking, is it difficult to keep up with? I’m all for listening to the school lectures and keeping up with my class, but trying to do Zanki/lightyear afterwards seems like I’ll be up all night. It just sucks because we have mandatory lecture *screams internally*
 
If you don’t mind me asking, is it difficult to keep up with? I’m all for listening to the school lectures and keeping up with my class, but trying to do Zanki/lightyear afterwards seems like I’ll be up all night. It just sucks because we have mandatory lecture *screams internally*

If you're trying to keep up with Zanki/Lightyear AND also learn and memorize all of your class lectures you will drive yourself crazy because that is nearly impossible. It's all a balancing act, sometimes you have to sacrifice time on one for the other. If you are doing exclusively outside resources like Zanki/Lightyear, B&B, Pathoma etc. and you are barely passing your school exams, then you will want to divert more of your attention to studying class power points.
 
If you're trying to keep up with Zanki/Lightyear AND also learn and memorize all of your class lectures you will drive yourself crazy because that is nearly impossible. It's all a balancing act, sometimes you have to sacrifice time on one for the other. If you are doing exclusively outside resources like Zanki/Lightyear, B&B, Pathoma etc. and you are barely passing your school exams, then you will want to divert more of your attention to studying class power points.

Thank you for this. I wasn’t sure if I could do both or if it is better to tackle lecture material. This gives me a better picture of what to do.
 
If you don’t mind me asking, is it difficult to keep up with? I’m all for listening to the school lectures and keeping up with my class, but trying to do Zanki/lightyear afterwards seems like I’ll be up all night. It just sucks because we have mandatory lecture *screams internally*
Mandatory lecture is what will destroy you here lol. I don't have mandatory lecture, so I watch all of my lectures on 2-3x speed. Zanki in the morning; I at least keep up with all of my reviews, but there are some days where I don't get to my new cards for the day, and that is something I allow myself if I'm feeling overwhelmed. Otherwise, I've been able to do fine at keeping up with both-- Zanki goes along really well with what I'm learning in my classes, so it's like another way of getting a repetition in.
 
Mandatory lecture is what will destroy you here lol. I don't have mandatory lecture, so I watch all of my lectures on 2-3x speed. Zanki in the morning; I at least keep up with all of my reviews, but there are some days where I don't get to my new cards for the day, and that is something I allow myself if I'm feeling overwhelmed. Otherwise, I've been able to do fine at keeping up with both-- Zanki goes along really well with what I'm learning in my classes, so it's like another way of getting a repetition in.

Fudge... Looks like class material only it is lol. Thank you for all of your advice!
 
Fudge... Looks like class material only it is lol. Thank you for all of your advice!
Yes, based on my experience so far as an M1 I think first year you should just focus on the class material (aka slides) more than worrying about board prep materials. If you need further clarification on a concept then you can bring in more resources. Med school takes some adjusting and trying to focus on material that may not even be on your exams by incorporating board resources too soon can be too overwhelming. The goal of first year is to pass all of your classes, find your study groove, and optimally do as well as you can so you have a strong foundation going into M2 so the material makes sense. M2 material builds on M1, so if your foundation stinks it can set you up to struggle. You can worry more about board resources summer going into M2 so that you can find what works best for you and then incorporate it with your studies when it will be more useful second year. I do however recommend using practice questions from resources such as Kaplan, BRS, Lipp, Pretest at the end of each block so that you can practice applying the material you study from class and you start to generate a way of thinking about the material that youll need to do well in class, on boards and eventually clinically
 
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Fudge... Looks like class material only it is lol. Thank you for all of your advice!
No problem! Once you get a feel for how your curriculum works, you can experiment with adding board resources if you find it lines up well-- for example, doing Zanki may suffice for your in-class exams if the material lines up well. I agree with the above, though; I didn't start Zanki till a few courses into M1, and I think I would've been overwhelmed if I had started it day 1. Give yourself some time to adjust and get a feel for your curriculum and what it takes for you to do well.
 
Fudge... Looks like class material only it is lol. Thank you for all of your advice!

Systems-based curriculum as well; however, we do not have mandatory lecture.

I would recommend previewing the lectures the night prior so you can make the most of the lectures. You may get to the point where you study the lectures prior to the lecture at your own pace and just do a mixture of Anki cards and listening during lecture. I still believe that B&B is an invaluable resource to supplement the material since some professors are better than others in terms of instruction and portraying the bigger picture.
 
I normally wake up around 5:00 A.M. So, I am hoping I can use that to my advantage. But this is all coming from someone not in medical school. As Mike Tyson said “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” Lol.

I’m just glad that our school records lectures and we can view them later.
I don't think you should feel pressured to wake up so early unless if that's just the way your circadian rhythm works. You'll still be devoting a similar amount of time toward sleeping and studying as the person who wakes up at noon every day. Of course you'll have to be a morning person once third year hits, but that doesn't mean you have to torture yourself during preclinical years by forcing yourself to get up so early. Enjoy the freedom of an open ended life while you can (preclinical years).
 
Note that mandatory lectures do not mean anything more than you have to study while physically sitting in the lecture hall. Tune the lecture out or put headphones in and get your work done. Don't let your school strong arm you.

I love this advice, but I am putting on my naive OMS 0 hat. How do you study without listening to the lecture? I learn best by walking and talking the information aloud, but I feel like they have pinholed me into listening to their lecture. Or do you guys listen to another video source and then just chill/study in lecture.


I don't think you should feel pressured to wake up so early unless if that's just the way your circadian rhythm works. You'll still be devoting a similar amount of time toward sleeping and studying as the person who wakes up at noon every day. Of course you'll have to be a morning person once third year hits, but that doesn't mean you have to torture yourself during preclinical years by forcing yourself to get up so early. Enjoy the freedom of an open ended life while you can (preclinical years).

True. Sadly, it has become my rhythm lol. I like waking up early and hitting the gym, but that may change during school. Thank you for the advice though!
 
I love this advice, but I am putting on my naive OMS 0 hat. How do you study without listening to the lecture? I learn best by walking and talking the information aloud, but I feel like they have pinholed me into listening to their lecture. Or do you guys listen to another video source and then just chill/study in lecture.
Does your school record your lectures? If so, while you're in lecture you can study stuff from the day before, then after lecture watch them on 2-3x speed, rinse and repeat every day.
 
Does your school record your lectures? If so, while you're in lecture you can study stuff from the day before, then after lecture watch them on 2-3x speed, rinse and repeat every day.

They do! I know they have past lectures online and the lectures from the other campuses (we are a branch campus). Thank you! That makes complete sense and would make things a lot easier. After the MCAT, anything at 1x speed is a buzzkill lol.
 
They do! I know they have past lectures online and the lectures from the other campuses (we are a branch campus). Thank you! That makes complete sense and would make things a lot easier. After the MCAT, anything at 1x speed is a buzzkill lol.
I have mandatory lecture and basically do what has been said here. I sit in the back of the classroom, put in headphones while they teach and do my own thing (BnB, Sketchy, Zanki) and then in the afternoon ill watch the lectures on 1.5-2x speed. It just maximizes your time
 
Ill be an OMS-1 this fall. So if im understanding correctly any current medical students on here would recommend devoting atleast the first semester of medical school to my schools lectures and adjusting to the medical school curriculum. In addition to school lectures, B & B can be used to supplement class material on unclear topics and zanki can slide in later in the semester as time allows. Any other recommendations or clarifications for an upcoming OMS-1 ?
 
Ill be an OMS-1 this fall. So if im understanding correctly any current medical students on here would recommend devoting atleast the first semester of medical school to my schools lectures and adjusting to the medical school curriculum. In addition to school lectures, B & B can be used to supplement class material on unclear topics and zanki can slide in later in the semester as time allows. Any other recommendations or clarifications for an upcoming OMS-1 ?
Yes focus on lectures to start. Then add in other resources. I also highly suggest that when you study you use a timer. I do 50 mins on then 15 mins off (walk around, get food, walk outside, call a buddy)-your brain retains more material this way. If you try to study for 3+ hours straight you start to get diminishing returns where you aren't actually learning much. Some people do 30 mins 5 mins or 40 mins 10 mins, whatever you feel works for you. I see it as HIIT training for your brain. If you try and workout for 4 hours in the gym are you really doing anything beneficial anymore? Same concept. Also, use the tutoring system, please do not feel like youre stupid if you use a tutor. Some of the top students use tutors and then they themselves tutor the following year. I know as med students weve typically been the top end of the class most of our lives and may feel that you don't need help but now you are in med school where most people were in the top end of their class so don't feel like you are too "smart" for a tutor. Another thing is get to know 2nd 3rd and/or 4th years-they are the people that have gone before you and know teach styles of certain professors and also are good mentors to have so dont hesitate to bounce stuff off them and get their feedback. Remember what worked in undergrad or PT school (guessing you've already gone to PT school by your username) may not work in med school, but you will probably have an advantage since PT school is definitely harder than undergrad i assume.
 
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I never heard of Lightyear before. Is it supposed to be better than Zanki?
It hasn't been around as long so there are less people who swear by it. They are both likely very similar, except one is based on BnB and one on FA. I think it's just a personal preference thing...if you watch BnB a lot, you may prefer Lightyear. Also, some people have said that the tags in LY are easier to sort through than Zanki, but I don't go through and un-suspend based on tags anyways, so this hasn't impacted me.
 
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