USP, UPitt, University of Arizona

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hi everyone,

i'm a hs senior and i got 3 acceptances to pre-pharm schools. those three colleges are: USP, UPitt, and University of Arizona. I wanted to know how the reputation of these schools are and their ranking. do professors teach well at these colleges? pls let me know if you know any info about these or if you are attending there.

thanks! much appreciated!
 
Is your Pitt acceptance for their conditional acceptance (0-6) program? If so, do not make my mistake. Choose Pitt if you're choosing between USP and Pitt. I'm not sure about U. of Arizona.
 
i'm not choosing bw them yet because i'm still waiting for some decisions in march. i just want to know how these programs are and how you like the college if you are attending one of these. and yes, i got the conditional acceptance for upitt, but for usp i got a 5k/yr grant.
 
i'm not choosing bw them yet because i'm still waiting for some decisions in march. i just want to know how these programs are and how you like the college if you are attending one of these. and yes, i got the conditional acceptance for upitt, but for usp i got a 5k/yr grant.

5k? That's it? Wow, they're getting stingy now. For my year it was pretty much 7k merit grant for everyone (I guess Pitt is stingy too, they gave good financial aid for people who got into conditional back then, at least to me anyway...maybe because I'm out of state).
But I'd say go to Pitt regardless of where you get in (unless you're looking to move to CA or get in somewhere where tuition is very cheap). I know lots of people in that program and they really like it.
 
i'm actually from CA so i really want to go to uop, but east coast is kinda my backup so i was just wondering how the ratings were. yeah, pitt didn't give any money even though i got conditional. have you heard anything about lecom?
 
i'm actually from CA so i really want to go to uop, but east coast is kinda my backup so i was just wondering how the ratings were. yeah, pitt didn't give any money even though i got conditional. have you heard anything about lecom?

I thought Lecom only has the professional phase, so you wouldn't be able to start as a freshman, but I do believe there are some 2+3 programs where you take 2 years at another college and then get preferred admission to LECOM or something like that...but I heard bad things about it, you can find on this board what people say about that place. I know one guy that goes there, and he says that he wishes he didn't do a 3 year program.
 
Is your Pitt acceptance for their conditional acceptance (0-6) program? If so, do not make my mistake. Choose Pitt if you're choosing between USP and Pitt. I'm not sure about U. of Arizona.

Just curious, what was your mistake?
 
I'm applying to Pitt but I dunno if I'm going to get the conditional acceptance.
 
Just curious, what was your mistake?

My mistake is not going to Pitt. It would be much cheaper, and everyone that's in that program seems to like it. USP has some positive things about it as well, but Pitt seems to have more.
 
I'm a 4th year at UofA COP, it is great program, but if you can stay home and pay instate tuition go that route, they have routinely increased tuition yearly, it would be pricey for an out of state student
 
If you are only pre pharm, you can get instate residency here in AZ before you start pharm school. You won't be disappointed with this program and it costs ~20K a year in state (after fees). They also award a lot of scholarships every year. The only problem down here would be shortage of intern positions unless you know someone or jump on the chance when 4th years give up their jobs when they start rotations. Good luck.
 
hey everyone, thank you for your responses! ok so here's an update: i got waitlisted at my top choice university of the pacific, decided to remain on the waitlist. meanwhile, i need to deposit my SIR at another university. so i'm still considering Arizona, USP, and UPitt. I also got accepted at UT Austin for pre pharm. Please let me know more about University of Arizona and UT Austin as I would most likely choose one of those two. For Arizona, is it quite conservative there? also ut is ranked much higher and arizona is not. what are some good reasons to choose one over the other. (btw, i'm visiting arizona next week) so if you have any suggestions please let me know. thank you so much! 🙂
 
oh and btw i got the following:

Arizona: 10,000 scholarship + free iPad, Honors College
UT Austin: no scholarship
USP: 10,000 per year (yeah they increased my scholarship amount)
UPitt: 10,000 per year and conditional acceptance (meaning they're holding a spot for me in pharmacy school provided that I meet all the
required criteria).
 
The ranking of the undergrad won't matter and likely neither will the ranking of the pharm school (UA is a top ten, tho). Tucson is liberal compared to the rest of the state. Please tell me what specific things you want to know about UA, though. There is simply too much to tell
 
do the professors teach well and give personalized attention to students? do you feel like you have actually been taught or that you do most of the work on your own?
 
do the professors teach well and give personalized attention to students? do you feel like you have actually been taught or that you do most of the work on your own?

Make no mistake -- Arizona is a big school. I'm a junior there right now and decided I wanted to move back east towards my home in PA for pharmacy school, so I'm headed to Temple. I've really loved my time here. Most of the undergrad classes, especially gen. ed. courses, are really large and hard to get personal attention in, but I think that's the case at most places. As you take more specialized classes, the class size decreases, but you'll quickly notice the same faces in all of the health field pre-requisites.

Tucson itself isn't the most exciting city. There's plenty of restaurants and shopping and all that junk. On the weekends, most people just party. Football and basketball games are a pretty huge deal here and have been one of the things I enjoyed most. Especially with Sean Miller leading U of A to their second golden age of west coast dominance 😀 (you'd see it in your time here).

Another plus is housing. Tons and tons and tons of off-campus housing, all really close to campus. It's a city with a close-knit and small-town feel. All of the off-campus housing is very affordable, and my rent for my own bedroom and bathroom in a 4 bedroom house 0.75 miles from campus is $425, versus paying $600-700 for most dorm rooms these days. Like someone else had mentioned, the city is pretty liberal, especially compared to the folks in Phoenix. Just look up "Baja Arizona" 🙄 -- you'll see what I mean.

The financial aid has been good for me too. Tuition has gone up over 30% since I was a freshman, but my financial aid has also increased each year, though this is probably the most expensive year so far. It's awesome they're offering you a free iPad. I'm in the Honors College and definitely didn't get anything that cool for it. Especially unfair because they just started charging a $500 annual fee for being an honors student.

The school gets ridiculous amounts of research funding and it's easy to get involved with professors on campus as an undergrad. Gives you good experience and looks great to the pharmacy school, not to mention a solid rec. letter. The pharmacy school is supposed to be top-notch as well. Consistently ranked in the top 10, so I've heard. One of the perks of not being a 0-6 program is the freedom to change your mind. It might not seem like you want to do anything else right now, but you might take organic chemistry or microbiology or something and totally change your mind.

And did I mention the weather? 😎 My advice is to try and visit each place, but that's pretty expensive, so asking here is probably your next best option.
 
so looks like you would totally recommend it then! and you mentioned that you're a junior. can't the pre pharm be finished off in 2 years to make it a 2+4 program. did you choose to extend pre-pharm to a third year or were you required to? or am i mistaken- and you are already in the first year of pharmacy school? and...what are the acceptance rates like from pre-pharm to pharmacy school? do you get preference if you did your pre pharm at u of a? sorry for the huge list of questions, but i would like to know. and btw i'm visiting the campus next friday. since i'm from cali, we're doing a roadtrip! 😛
 
oh and i almost forgot. are your credits transferable from arizona to your home state? i would be in a similar situation from arizona to cali. please advise. thanks!
 
You mean this friday or next friday? Are you doing a tour of the campus? Yes, your credits are transferable. I am a good tour guide should you need one.
 
so looks like you would totally recommend it then! and you mentioned that you're a junior. can't the pre pharm be finished off in 2 years to make it a 2+4 program. did you choose to extend pre-pharm to a third year or were you required to? or am i mistaken- and you are already in the first year of pharmacy school? and...what are the acceptance rates like from pre-pharm to pharmacy school? do you get preference if you did your pre pharm at u of a? sorry for the huge list of questions, but i would like to know. and btw i'm visiting the campus next friday. since i'm from cali, we're doing a roadtrip! 😛

If you can get used to a big school, it's totally worth it. I like going here, but it might not be your thing. A campus visit is a great way to go, and it's seriously beautiful this time of year. If you're in driving distance, all the better.

You probably can do the pre-pharm classes in two years, but I was a chemistry major and didn't really start taking pre-requisites for pharmacy (biology, microbiology, etc.) until I was a sophomore. If you take pre-pharm and nothing but pre-pharm courses, you can likely finish them in two years, but may have difficulties graduating in four if you don't get into pharmacy school somewhere. The advisers love to remind students that "pre-pharmacy isn't a degree-seeking major!"

I spoke with a pharmacy adviser before and I remember her telling me that U of A's acceptance rates were something like 1 in 3, but that sounds less selective than I would have guessed. The only preference I could imagine a student from U of A having in applying to the pharmacy program here is that all of their pre-requisite courses are going to be exactly what the school is looking for, and they have the opportunity to get involved with the faculty and clubs on campus here that the admissions folks are more likely to be familiar with than at any other campus. Join the pre-pharmacy club and try to get some kind of officer position, then I'd suggest doing community service hours and calling the UMC to see if you can volunteer there.

Arizona requires both community service and pharmacy experience, so if you start it as a freshman, you're pretty much a shoe-in with good grades and PCAT scores.
 
It is a big school and a smaller city than phoenix. Consequently, it is a "college town" for sure. And that is a good thing. I love it so much more than Phoenix. But seriously, if you're coming to check it out, I know some great places you should visit while you are here.
 
yes i will visit next friday april 15th. i didn't schedule a campus tour since i already toured the campus last summer before applying. i have an appointment with ms. baker to talk about pre pharm. i will also be speaking with an advisor from the honors college. yeah, it's not too big; it's a medium sized school i would say and tuscan is nice besides the heat :/
 
Doesn't really hit the triple digits much while school's in session, so it's pretty tolerable. And honestly, if you're intending to go to pharmacy school, the Honors College doesn't really mean much besides looking good to admissions people. I guess there's the iPad though...wish I got one.
 
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