Utah does not require a post-doc but required 4000 hours supervision

[edieb]

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A friend told me that Utah is the cheapest state to get licensure in and they also don't require a post-doc. Their application corroborates that they do not require a post-doc but require 4000 hours... isn't that the same thing?

Here is the link:

http://www.dopl.utah.gov/licensing/forms/applications/068_psychologist.pdf

 

[medium rare]

A friend told me that Utah is the cheapest state to get licensure in and they also don't require a post-doc. Their application corroborates that they do not require a post-doc but require 4000 hours... isn't that the same thing?

Here is the link:

http://www.dopl.utah.gov/licensing/forms/applications/068_psychologist.pdf

No. The 4000 hour requirement includes your internship hours and hours accrued through your clinical practica in graduate school. If you don't have the 4000 total through these activities, then you'll have to accrue more to meet the requirement, but there is no requirement for any of the hours to be accrued post-doctorally as was the case in the past.

More states are moving to this model to reduce the 'post-doc' trap many graduates have found themselves in (doctorate in hand, but not licensed so not eligible for third-party reimbursement) and to recognize the increased amount of clinical training that occurs in graduate school as compared to when licensure laws where first implemented.

Arizona, for example, has also just eliminated the requirement for postdoctoral hours for licensure.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I believe Washington state also eliminated their requirement.

 

[psychmama]

I believe Washington state also eliminated their requirement.

Ditto for Maryland.

 

[edieb]

Alabama, Washington, Utah, and Maryland are the states

 

[Cosmo75]

Nice to see this archaic policy going away. Unfortunately I'll probably be done with post-doctoral hours by the time Illinois gets around to it.

 

[KillerDiller]

I assume these 4000 hours refer to total APPIC hours and not clinical contact hours, right? If a person needs to accrue 4000 contact hours, to me that is pretty much the same as requiring a post-doc year (or more).