UTAH: What types of students get in the December group?

[bqj]

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What types of students get in the December group?

 

[Skialta]

I don't understand your question.

 

[bqj]

I don't understand your question.

Utah says they accept a third of their class in december and the rest have to wait until april. I heard that the credentials of those getting accepted in december don't differ that much from the april group, so i'm wondering if there's any rhyme or reason to it all. but then again, it's Utah, who has the most haphazard ADCOM in the US.

 

[patzan]

you're right, it's random in December just like the rest of the time.

 

[VWild]

you're right, it's random in December just like the rest of the time.

They accept approximately 40 students throughout the year depending upon when your name goes to the committee. Once your name goes to the commitee you are given a numerical value. If your numerical value is above a certain number you are automatically accepted, this happens to about 40 utah students. In april once all of the students have been given a numerical value based on all of their credentials they are ranked and the 40 top utah students that have not yet been accepted are offered seats. There are quite a few utah students that have already recieved acceptances because they had early interviews and their names have already gone to the comitee. I'm not sure how out of state acceptances work.

 

[bqj]

They accept approximately 40 students throughout the year depending upon when your name goes to the committee. Once your name goes to the commitee you are given a numerical value. If your numerical value is above a certain number you are automatically accepted, this happens to about 40 utah students. In april once all of the students have been given a numerical value based on all of their credentials they are ranked and the 40 top utah students that have not yet been accepted are offered seats. There are quite a few utah students that have already recieved acceptances because they had early interviews and their names have already gone to the comitee. I'm not sure how out of state acceptances work.

Do you (or anyone) have an idea about how Utah ranks? I bring this up because from last year's stats, the majority of their entering class didn't have the highest numbers (28/3.5) so I'm guessing utah puts a lotta weight on other factors.

 

[MedicineBird]

Do you (or anyone) have an idea about how Utah ranks? I bring this up because from last year's stats, the majority of their entering class didn't have the highest numbers (28/3.5) so I'm guessing utah puts a lotta weight on other factors.

from what their dean told us at a little "apply to our school" shin dig they put on at my undergrad university, once you make it ove the 7's in each sub category on the MCAT and have a 3.5 then your numbers only become worth 20% of the score for you. The interview has the heaviest weight followed by clinical experience.

 

[bqj]

from what their dean told us at a little "apply to our school" shin dig they put on at my undergrad university, once you make it ove the 7's in each sub category on the MCAT and have a 3.5 then your numbers only become worth 20% of the score for you. The interview has the heaviest weight followed by clinical experience.

I heard that the interview counted only 1/6 of the total weight (which is good b/c I had one interviewer who had his eyes closed the whole interview!!!) and that Utah puts a ton of weight on research and EC activities.

 

[patzan]

I heard that the interview counted only 1/6 of the total weight (which is good b/c I had one interviewer who had his eyes closed the whole interview!!!) and that Utah puts a ton of weight on research and EC activities.

I have spoken with Dr. Samuelson several times and I know people on the admissions committee. What they say, "there are so many good applicants that you have to stand out somehow."

For Utah, so little weight is put into MCAT and GPA that other subjective things matter much more than objective qualifiers. If you look on the MCAT breakdown by state, you will see that applicants from Utah had the highest composite of any state nationwide. The statistics of students accepted to Utah do not reflect this trend (if you have an applicant pool with the highest averages in the nation, you should have an entering class with averages higher than that. This is not the case. Utah's classes generally have MCAT/GPA scores similar to their applicant pool).

 

[Gr42]

I have to agree with most of the things that have been said. I do have to add that at the "U" if you do not have research experience your application will not be even consider (You won't get an interiview). You don't have to be published but you have to have some research experience in any field. Your extracurriculars must be excellent b/c once you are past your interview GPA/MCAT don't have too much weight. I mean many people have similar scores and ECA's would determine the outcome. Trust me, I applied there last year and didn't get in so I'm in my first year of med school at different University.

 

[dura]

So when you say your ec's and interview matter the most, do they have to be listed on the secondary application? What if I listed significant ec's on the AMCAS application that didn't qualify for the secondary--I am a post-bacc and I am a little older but was a college athlete, for example.

 

[bqj]

I have to agree with most of the things that have been said. I do have to add that at the "U" if you do not have research experience your application will not be even consider (You won't get an interiview). You don't have to be published but you have to have some research experience in any field. Your extracurriculars must be excellent b/c once you are past your interview GPA/MCAT don't have too much weight. I mean many people have similar scores and ECA's would determine the outcome. Trust me, I applied there last year and didn't get in so I'm in my first year of med school at different University.

Do you know how much weight they put on the interview?

 

[patzan]

Do you know how much weight they put on the interview?

You see, they have this admissions monkey that picks people, so I don't know if you can estimate how much the interview counts.

 

[Gr42]

I said EC's and interview matter the most after you have been ranked. Generally, what determines if you get a secondary are your stats GPA/MCAT which they don't have to be extremely high. You should list all that you can in your secondary! Even sports. After you have been interviewed and you have been ranked, everyone is on the same boat and those EC's, personal essay, interview are what makes you stand out. For your information, after your interview the admissions comittee never gets to see your MCAT/GPA scores because you made it that far so they assume you are qualified ( not to mention that this way they would avoid a little bit of bias). By the way people that interview you don't know your stats either.
Here is the bad part, after all is said and done, your file is randomly given to a member of the committe who is suppose to review everything in your file which includes EC's, LOR, Personal essay, notes from interviews and so on (He/she has no access to stats). This person then has to present you to the committe and if this individual likes your file and qualities he/she will do a good job at presenting you to the whole committe. On the other hand, if you don't impress this person your chances are diminished because they won't put a big effort in presenting you. This kind of sucks because it may seem like is a matter of luck wether your file is given to the right person or not. I know this because I spoke with Dr. Samuelson on several occasions!!!!