Uworld for Internal Medicine Shelf

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Hey everyone! A lot of people use uworld to study for their internal medicine shelf but I was wondering how people normally approach using it throughout the rotation (mine is 8 weeks). Do people normally annotate it like they do for step 1? If you do, what do you annotate it into? Step up to medicine?

Also, how do people normally incorporate the MKSAP questions (I guess it's call IM essentials now) into their studying? Would it be more beneficial to do at the beginning or end of the rotation? Should it be done at the same time as uworld?

I know I just asked lots of questions all at once but thanks in advance for any info anyone can share!

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You'll find everyone does things a little differently for Step 2, far more so than for Step 1.

Personally, I annotated UWorld into SUTM but never touched it again. Kind of a waste of time, seeing as I happened not to use SUTM for Step 2 and the process of annotating took a long time. I didn't touch MKSAP.

If I were to do it over again, I would just do pure UWorld Q's for preparation, and maybe read Case Files too. If I were to do any annotation-like thing it would be flashcard one-liners for review when Step 2 comes along.
 
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There are too many questions and not enough time to annotate. Just burn through those babies, read the explanations, and learn. Most of the Step 2 qbank is IM and it is indeed the best source to study for the shelf. Put that crap on random and muscle through it.

I also recommend NMS Medicine Casebook, which is better than CaseFiles or Step Up to Medicine in my opinion.

MKSAP is ok but the questions tend to be slightly easier than the shelf. The advantage of using MKSAP for your general knowledge is that the up-to-date versions are up-to-date with new guidelines, but the shelf exams still have old retired questions so being really up-to-date is not going to help much on the shelf exam.
 
step up to medicine sucked
doing uworld takes enough time by itself
 
There are too many questions and not enough time to annotate. Just burn through those babies, read the explanations, and learn. Most of the Step 2 qbank is IM and it is indeed the best source to study for the shelf. Put that crap on random and muscle through it.

I also recommend NMS Medicine Casebook, which is better than CaseFiles or Step Up to Medicine in my opinion.

MKSAP is ok but the questions tend to be slightly easier than the shelf. The advantage of using MKSAP for your general knowledge is that the up-to-date versions are up-to-date with new guidelines, but the shelf exams still have old retired questions so being really up-to-date is not going to help much on the shelf exam.

QFT. I tried suffering through SUTM and IM Essentials first, NMS medicine casebook is much easier reading than either. Am in the midst of IM rotation now so I can't vouch for it as far as shelf performance but I'm assuming the resource that doesn't put me to sleep is better than the one that does.
 
There are too many questions and not enough time to annotate. Just burn through those babies, read the explanations, and learn. Most of the Step 2 qbank is IM and it is indeed the best source to study for the shelf. Put that crap on random and muscle through it.

I also recommend NMS Medicine Casebook, which is better than CaseFiles or Step Up to Medicine in my opinion.

MKSAP is ok but the questions tend to be slightly easier than the shelf. The advantage of using MKSAP for your general knowledge is that the up-to-date versions are up-to-date with new guidelines, but the shelf exams still have old retired questions so being really up-to-date is not going to help much on the shelf exam.

QFT. I tried suffering through SUTM and IM Essentials first, NMS medicine casebook is much easier reading than either. Am in the midst of IM rotation now so I can't vouch for it as far as shelf performance but I'm assuming the resource that doesn't put me to sleep is better than the one that does.

Thank you for all your input! I have a question about the NMS Medicine Casebook though. Just looked it up on Amazon and saw it was published in 2008. Is it still relevant and accurate for current tests/real life?
 
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NMS casebook is fine even though it's a bit old. Like I said, the shelf exams aren't too terribly up-to-date. If you do UWorld's IM questions, which get updated constantly, you'll catch the finer details of emphasis that have changed recently. But the NMS casebook has the bulk of the material and it is readable.
 
Thank you for all your input! I have a question about the NMS Medicine Casebook though. Just looked it up on Amazon and saw it was published in 2008. Is it still relevant and accurate for current tests/real life?

No doubt there have been advances in what is "evidence based" since 2008, but I think this book will get you most of the way there. Supplementing with uworld/IM essentials questions will hopefully cover the rest of the ground.
 
Thank you for all your input! I have a question about the NMS Medicine Casebook though. Just looked it up on Amazon and saw it was published in 2008. Is it still relevant and accurate for current tests/real life?

Medicine is a field that is slow to change
 
When you guys are doing UWorld in conjunction with NMS medicine, are you reading a section and then working through the UWorld questions by topic, or do you generally just run through the questions on random?
 
When you guys are doing UWorld in conjunction with NMS medicine, are you reading a section and then working through the UWorld questions by topic, or do you generally just run through the questions on random?
Just do all of UWorld IM and NBME IM exams and you're set.
 
Anyone know anything about the Internal Medicine Clerkship Guide,3e? I start on medicine next week and the class above me recommends it. Just trying to get some feedback.
 
My current clerkship is in IM and it so happens to also be my first. My UWorld overall percentage (just doing IM questions) is 65%. Is this normal to be struggling? Because I'm starting to get worried that I won't score as well on this exam.
 
that's normal percentage to be getting first time through, they make the bank that hard so you're doing more questions you don't knwo so you're learning more form them

best prep for IM shelf IMHO is the student MKSAP book
 
that's normal percentage to be getting first time through, they make the bank that hard so you're doing more questions you don't knwo so you're learning more form them

best prep for IM shelf IMHO is the student MKSAP book

Thanks for letting me know!
 
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