Vanderbilt's Anti-Gay Stance

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for all you future applicants..

if you want to go into a medical school that bashes on minorities, and probably in all the medical schools has the lowest minority rate both in terms of asians, african americans and other ethnic groups!

then feel free to go to Vanderbilt.

This is in response to Bill Frist, a graduate of Vanderbilt Medical school and a powerful alumni of the university who is proposing an amendment to congress banning all kinds of gay marriages.

Even George Bush has distanced himself from Frist saying, a ban on "gay marriages" is NOT necessary!

if you want to go to a bigoted school, then that is your option, but at least beware of the policies instituted by some of its graduates!

According to Bill Frist, all homosexuals are "criminals"

please reconsider applying to a school with such hateful ideology! 🙂

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/06/29/frist.gay.marriage.ap/

Frist supports constitutional gay marriage ban
Sunday, June 29, 2003 Posted: 6:24 PM EDT (2224 GMT)



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WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Senate majority leader said Sunday he supported a proposed constitutional amendment to ban homosexual marriage in the United States.

Sen. Bill Frist, R-Tennessee, said the Supreme Court's decision last week on gay sex threatens to make the American home a place where criminality is condoned.

The court on Thursday threw out a Texas law that prohibited acts of sodomy between homosexuals in a private home, saying that such a prohibition violates the defendants' privacy rights under the Constitution. The ruling invalidated the Texas law and similar statutes in 12 other states.

"I have this fear that this zone of privacy that we all want protected in our own homes is gradually -- or I'm concerned about the potential for it gradually being encroached upon, where criminal activity within the home would in some way be condoned," Frist told ABC's "This Week."

"And I'm thinking of -- whether it's prostitution or illegal commercial drug activity in the home -- to have the courts come in, in this zone of privacy, and begin to define it gives me some concern."

Asked whether he supported an amendment that would ban any marriage in the United States except a union of a man and a woman, Frist said: "I absolutely do, of course I do.

"I very much feel that marriage is a sacrament, and that sacrament should extend and can extend to that legal entity of a union between -- what is traditionally in our Western values has been defined -- as between a man and a woman. So I would support the amendment."

Same-sex marriages are legal in Belgium and the Netherlands. Canada's Liberal government announced two weeks ago that it would enact similar legislation soon.

Rep. Marilyn Musgrave, R-Colorado, was the main sponsor of the proposal offered May 21 to amend the Constitution. It was referred to the House Judiciary subcommittee on the Constitution on Wednesday, the day before the high court ruled.

As drafted, the proposal says:

"Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any state under state or federal law shall be construed to require that marital status or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon unmarried couples or groups."

To be added to the Constitution, the proposal must be approved by two-thirds of the House and the Senate and ratified by three-fourths of the states.

Frist said Sunday he respects the Supreme Court decision but feels the justices overstepped their bounds.

"Generally, I think matters such as sodomy should be addressed by the state legislatures," Frist said. "That's where those decisions -- with the local norms, the local mores -- are being able to have their input in reflected.

"And that's where it should be decided, and not in the courts."
 
Originally posted by whatsupdoc
He went to Harvard.

thanks for the correction:

http://frist.senate.gov/biography.cfm

he went to Harvard, but is now officially a member of the VAnderbilt KKK family 🙂

I wonder how other faculty feel when a member of their intelligencia propogates such hateful ideology?!

I would be very worried about Vanderbilt's reputation as having one of the fewest minority represenations in the country! 🙂

First, Lott with his segregation remarks, and then Frist with his anti-gay remarks...

yep, the republican party is definitely a party of inclusion...an inclusive party consisting of RedNecks, Nazi and KKK members 😀
 
First off... I am a gay man who is in favor of same sex couples being able to marry. (I don't want to debate it here, just want to give some background) However, I think this post is childish and draws rash conclusions that are totally unwarranted. A school's relationship with one person is not a reflection of the attitude of the entire community or administration. Sure, Vanderbilt is in the South and therefore will have more conservative associates (students, staff, faculy, admin) than a school on the West Coast or Northeast. Vanderbilt has been a leader in the HIV vaccine research.

That being said, Vanderbilt was far too conservative of a school for me when I visited (I'm from the West Coast too). I just think it sad that someone is calling a school "Anti-gay" because of one person's views (a person who's job it is to represent a fairly conservative constituency, for better or worse). Do you have any other points that ellude to Vanderbilt's anti-gay climate? By the way, the last president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Assoc. was a black gay man from Vanderbilt.
 
if you want to talk about the Klan you should start with Senator Robert Byrd (the ranking democrat and the progressive patriarch), who was a member of that organization. You fail to note that in college at Ole Miss Senator Lott was a student integration activist, and has the highest rating amongst minorities in Mississippi of any senator in years. You should also know that Senator Thurmond was the first to hire minorities to his staff, at a time when most "progressives" were too busy preaching equal protection and opportunity instead of practicing it. You are, in typically partisan fashion, mischaracterizing and exaggerating Senator Frist's stance. He is proposing an amendment to the Constitution that defines marriage the same way every major religion, government, social institution, and dictionary does: as a legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife. If you have a disagreement with the Senate Majority Leader (and most of the American people), then you are entitled to that. But to label a large group of patriotic Americans as "an inclusive party consisting of RedNecks, Nazi and KKK members" is not only incorrect, but outrageous, misinformed, jaded and unfair. You need to remember who abolished slavery in this country, and what party he was affiliated with. You need to remember which political faction appointed the first minorities to the helm of the State Department, the Department of Education, the Transportation Department, and to the Chairs of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the National Security Council. If you are going to make claims on these boards, please check your facts, and your biases, at the door.
 
Am I the only one who doesnt have a problem with a school being anti gay? Really why should non gay people care. It's not like I have a burning desire to be surrounded by homosexual diversity. Also perhaps the reason that they dont have as many ethnic minorities is because AA is not being practiced as actively.... However that does not explain why there arent many asians. Well I guess the school is ****ed.

As far as same sex marriages/couples go I really dont care. I just dont want to see 2 guys making out in public and thats about all I ask for.
 
Originally posted by whatsupdoc
He went to Harvard.

So this means Harvard is totally anti-gay then, right?

🙄

Sorry for bumping this unworthy thread up, but the original post is easily the dumbest thing I've read all week. Seeing such a gross logical deficit in potential colleagues makes me worry about the future of medicine sometimes ...
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
He is proposing an amendment to the Constitution that defines marriage the same way every major religion, government, social institution, and dictionary does: as a legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

You need to remember who abolished slavery in this country, and what party he was affiliated with.

I'm pretty sure major religions have no place in the government.

And I'm pretty sure the Republicans were much different when Lincoln was representative of their party.
 
Originally posted by gramcracker

And I'm pretty sure the Republicans were much different when Lincoln was representative of their party.

And I am more even more certain that Democrats are better represented by Senator Byrd than some of us would like to acknowledge.
 
I couldnt help laugh at half the posts on this thread...

No DUH people, vanderbilt can hardly be represented by one of its leading faculty, the same way I guess trent lott didnt represent the repulican party...

🙄

case in point, Vanderbilt does hold an ANTI-GAY stance due to its religous viewpoint...

case in point, Vanderbilt DOES hold the lowest minority population for any medical school in the country including asians, blacks and other ethnic groups...

Frist is hardly one representative or a generalization of a community..but rather the tip of the iceberg 🙂
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
And I am more even more certain that Democrats are better represented by Senator Byrd than some of us would like to acknowledge.

are things really that black and white to you? if I'm not a republican, then I'm automatically democrat right?

if I don't tolerate an institution that has discriminatory policy,then I must be a minority who happens to be gay?

so I guess in all the posts that I hvae posted....at this point, I'm a black-hispanic-asian mix with socialistic lesbian tendancies :laugh:

oh and to the person who is a "gay person" on the thread...vanderbilt is leading the aids vaccine? so what? what kind of silly conclusion is that supposed to imply, that their helping the gay community because their working on aids?

last I checked, the heterosexual popluation in africa is being destroyed by AIDS, not the gay population..and the sheer number of heterosexuals afflicted with AIDS is by far greater than homosexuals 🙂

Vanderbilt has, and continues to have one of the most shameful minority popluations in the country excluding gays...who the hell gives a damn if a medical school contains gays or not..

I don't consider gays a minority even! However, having DISCRIMINATORY policies in which leading faculty are proponents of a cause that take away rights from another group, is and draws attention to the intstitution to which the individual belongs..

lott made a racist remark, what happened he got the boot?you know why? cuz republicans were afraid of being labeled racist...to prevent the generalizations...

frist is one redneck replacing another, and its time for vandy to give him the boot 🙂
 
what a wiggity-wack thread...

whatcha, i find your smiley usage very disturbing. "and the sheer number of heterosexuals afflicted with AIDS is by far greater than homosexuals 🙂"

😕 makes my brain hurt.

ok. so my latin lova' is a 3rd year at vandy. it is very true that there are not many minority students there. i do know, however, that they are working hard to attract minority applicants. it seems like there is a lot of self-selection going on (like most minority students choose to go to a different school because of the reputation, and because there are so few minority students.) it's very difficult to market a school that certainly was a bastion for white "old money" back in the day. and it's in the south.

i do agree that there is still a lot of work to do in attracting minority applicants, but i wouldn't label the whole institution as "racist" or "anti-gay."
 
Watcha is a ***** 🙂
He is a troll 😛
And an assclown 😀
He can't form complete sentences 😉
 
Originally posted by BrainDrain
Next time you make statements, make sure you do your homework.
http://www.amsa.org/adv/minscore.cfm

http://www.aamc.org/publications/detailedtables.pdf
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technicalities...went to harvard, went to vandy...

bottomline is he is a faculty at a major and powerful university..if the university does not reprimand him, then its guilt by association...

ok big deal..univ of alabama has even less minority 🙄

oh wow! like I needed convincing to show me that the southern states have even less minority...oh my 🙄

the republican party axed trent lott, since he made racist remarks...so they wouldnt be associated with him

Bill Frist, has taken up a fight of taking away rights from another group of pple...

if Vandy wants to stop creating a repuation that their freakin a white school with "one of the fewest"..(not THE FEWEST 🙄 ) minority applicants..maybe its time for them to shut up the voice of racist faculty such as KKK Bill Frist 😀

just an opinion folks...u don't have to agree...

and I'm entitled to my opinion...

and SP, you get Biatch slap like always u stalker troll u 😎

u still havent showed me evidence of WMD...that gives me 3 wins, 0 wins for you...

1) was the mascot racism thread (bamboozeled) where the Red Indian was a mascot....

2) is the WMD

3) is the reconstruction of afghanistan...which to this day has been zerooo 🙂

oh by the way, I applied to Vandy couple of years ago, willing to give the school a chance...

u know what happened?

I had called to check the status of my application, and was placed on hold, and instead of the usual music in the background, u know what was on! the NPR radio for Tenessee..

this is the MOST hilarious part in the whole process, the documentary that was playing on NPR was called the "White Flight"...

when the Supreme court ruled that segregation was unconstitutional, then whites FLED the public school system, fearing integration and moral "corruption" and depravation by blacks..

it was known in the 1950s as the "White Flight", since the whites fled to private schools, fearing "integration"...

my eyes went 😱 and as soon as I got my acceptance, I kept my place until the very end, and then withdrew 😀 so that nobody else would go there either 🙂 unfortunately, that meant I had to withdraw on May 15th...those damn bastards..

its so funny, like u dont see any asians in the school AT ALL..yah there are a coupe...but for the second look weekend, they had one asian and one african american givint the tours.....

and the most funny funny part, was that my faculty interviewer, kept on stressing how diverse they were...I mean, more than the normal amount...

its funny because, u dont see UCSF or UCLA making such claims, because it is such a non-issue becaues they are diverse...but schools such as vandy, because of their reputation of pple such as Frist, drive minorities out...and they dont seem to understand, that no matter how much they try to recruit minority appliants..when faculty make such ludicrious statements...nobody will go to that school regardless, on how mcuh effort they place into recruiting...

anyway, to make a long story short, he asked me where else I interviewed, and then he spent like an additional 1 hour, telling me why I shouldnt go to UCSF or USC, because they are so much more diverse and better...I was like, ur kidding right?

and then I bSed my way in the interview and told them what a powerful neuroscience program they had, and how I always had a thing for country music and square dancing...

I couldnt stop laughing inside though...he like believed everything...needless to say I got my acceptance...

but honestly, I would not give a school this much crap, if Bill Frist didn't open his mouth, I think he should be reprimanded by the school...if not the school continues to foster that image...

otherwise it is a great school. I remember on the plane, this lady was talking about vandy, and she was like...just know this, TN has two races, whites and blacks, everything else is alien to them.

and she was from TN!!!!
 
Originally posted by WatchaMaCallit
last I checked, the heterosexual popluation in africa is being destroyed by AIDS, not the gay population..and the sheer number of heterosexuals afflicted with AIDS is by far greater than homosexuals 🙂

The gay population IS being terribly destroyed by HIV. Even condom use is DOWN if you can believe it! Check out the CDC stats. at their web site. About 3-4 months ago, there was an HIV update in JAMA's weekly CDC section - you could probably find the same stats there.
 
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Originally posted by Explosivo
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Hee-larious! (BTW, where do you get those cool animated smilies? Do you download them from somewhere?)
 
Stop! Stop it!!
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Flush this thread already!
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You can get the website of the images by right-clicking and choosing properties. That'll give you the web address where they're hosted. Then you can insert them as images. I encourage everyone to reply to this annoying thread with nothing but annoying smilies.
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Originally posted by dcpark74
Hee-larious! (BTW, where do you get those cool animated smilies? Do you download them from somewhere?)

Go to http://bestsmileys.com

Great site. They have a ton on there. When you want to post one just copy the URL off the image and then paste it into the post. Add
 
The OP is a clear extremist maggot/douche bag. I think he/she got it's cock stuck in somebody's poop hole and lost it forever. Inserting sexual organs in a place where CRAP comes out is a great thing to make an individual distinct, and furthermore, WORTHY of diversity status.

Good job, brothers and sisters

😎

GM
 
Originally posted by ankitovich
...You need to remember who abolished slavery in this country, and what party he was affiliated with...

Lincoln did a lot of great things but he was still a shrewd politician who didn't care for black people any more than anyone else.

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races [applause]; that I am not, nor have I ever been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people... And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race" ~Abraham Lincoln, Charleston, Illinois in Sept of 1858 as quoted in The People's History of the United States by Zinn

"I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so"~Abraham Lincoln in his first Inaugural Address, March 1861

"That on the first day of January, AD 1863 all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part ofa State the people shall then be in rebellion against the United States shall then, thenceforward and forever free..."~Emancipation Proclamation

However this piece of legislation only freed slaves in states that were rebelling against the Union. The London Specattor commented on Proclamation saying "The principle is not that a human being cannot justly own another, but that he cannot own him unless he is loyal to the United States."

but to the OP, I disagree with Sen Frist's proposed amendment banning gay marriage but I don't think it's fair to characterize an entire school based on one person..or else imagine what people would think of Yale (cheapshot i know)
 
vivekap, those are only some of lincoln's quotes. others clearly express his abhorrance of slavery. many of these were found in personal letters, so they weren't just political rhetoric. it's obvious that lincoln wasn't a clear cut nor consistent champion of abolition, but it's also an exaggeration to say that abolition was purely a pretense. if anything, he vacillated often on the issue and was ultimately ambivalent about it.
 
i think that this stupid thread lives on because are way too interested in articulating their biases and not interested enough in the facts. My characterization of Senator Frist's intentions are rooted in fact. They are rooted in what he and others in the majority have stated with respect to the proposed amendment to the Constitution of the United States. You can debate the merits of the legislation, but you shouldn't question the intentions or patriotism of those who take positions on either sides of this issue. As for President Lincoln, you can express your opinion on his intentions, but for me at least, his actions speak louder than his words. I find it somewhat curious that everybody is all over Senators Frist and Lott, President Lincoln and the conservative movement in the United States, and I don't hear a peep about people like Senator Robert Byrd (Democrat from West Virginia, and a former member of the Ku Klux Klan) and Senator J. William Fulbright (Democrat from Arkansas, a notorious segregationist, and a man Bill Clinton called "My mentor, a visionary, a humanitarian.") Heck, why isn't anybody up in arms about professionals racketeers like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan? How about the liberal activist Cornel West? He was a tenured professor at Harvard, and is now University Professor at Princeton, and he is one of the most racist people I have ever had the misfortune to see or read. By the standards set forth by some of the posters on this board, shall we know condemn Princeton and Harvard? How about the states of West Virginia and Arkansas? Perhaps also New York and the Catholic Church too? Does it ever end? It seems to me that some on this board are just angry and frustrated, and they are entitled to their outrage, as they are their opinions. But as Senator Moynihan once said, they are "not entitled to their own facts."
 
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ok big deal..univ of alabama has even less minority

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We must be racist and anti-gay, too!

In fact, since I attend the school, I must be a racist card-carrying member of the KKK - oh wait, I'm asian.... 😀

Yours,

Jason
 
Are Watcha and ArrogantSurg one and the same? Their posting patterns and arguing style are very similar... hmm...

I smell a troll. 😱
 
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