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Does VCOM not post a match list? I cannot find it and if anyone can either post it or let me know where I can find it I'd appreciate it!
 
Bump.

Hoping a current VCOM VA student can enlighten us...
 
Sorry guys, I can't help ya out. They did have a poster board up on campus with a match list, but I dunno if it's still there, and I didn't study it very much so I can't remember much about it. Also, I would assume that since they haven't published it online themselves (that I know of), they probably don't want it out there.
 
Any reason why they might not be publishing it?
 
Well I have the match list from 2012 because they gave it to everyone during the interview and I know it is pretty good so it's not like they're not publishing it because it is lack luster.
 
well i no longer need it but if you email the admissions director/assistant they can help you out with where they place their students in a particular field your interested in but they do not post the match list which is very irritating for those applying/accepted to VCOM
 
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I really respect the fact that VCOM doesn't advertise a match list. To me, it says something like "we are proud and confident enough in our graduates that we don't need to use their achievements as a selling point"

Edit: no, i dont go there
 
Awesome Sauceome said:
Can you put it on here?

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I could but it would literally take for ever since it's a hard copy. I will try to post some of the highlights soon though
 
Ahh gotcha... Yea even just a rough number of how many in each specialty. Maybe a few of the names from places. That's like all people really look at anyways heh

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Its not a half bad match list, it has a pretty well represented variety of specialties and a few big names in there. A lot of good DO programs which is cool with me. And this was before the new giant Carilion hospital was even built right?

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Awesome Sauceome said:
Its not a half bad match list, it has a pretty well represented variety of specialties and a few big names in there. A lot of good DO programs which is cool with me. And this was before the new giant Carilion hospital was even built right?

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Hmm? No the CRMH in Roanoke has been around a long time. It is before VTC had any students that had reached 3rd year though.
 
They hand out yearbooks with the match list in the back of the yearbook, which I have.I think people need to view the matchlist, because it is very good in some respects (and other respects are par, like any match list). Maybe during the summer I'll type it out and post it up, but in the meantime I'll answer direct questions about it if anyone has any. ((we are in our last 1st year block so no way I can type out the whole thing right now)

In the 2014 match list threads, there was a short list of SOME of the notable matches. I think Neurospeed will agree, and he/she probably has a better idea than me, but for whatever reason the class of 2014 absolutely destroyed pediatrics. Some really good matches there, with some excellent internal med matches, some good surgery etc. People often forget about VCOM thinking it is just family and internal med, but they have other good matches. This year didn't have a Neurosurgery or Derm match (although they have in the past, especially with VCOM having residencies in both specialties), but obviously can't judge the whole list by that, especially for an osteopathic school.
 
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AnonymousD.O. said:
They hand out yearbooks with the match list in the back of the yearbook, which I have.I think people need to view the matchlist, because it is very good in some respects (and other respects are par, like any match list). Maybe during the summer I'll type it out and post it up, but in the meantime I'll answer direct questions about it if anyone has any. ((we are in our last 1st year block so no way I can type out the whole thing right now)

In the 2014 match list threads, there was a short list of SOME of the notable matches. I think Neurospeed will agree, and he/she probably has a better idea than me, but for whatever reason the class of 2014 absolutely destroyed pediatrics. Some really good matches there, with some excellent internal med matches, some good surgery etc. People often forget about VCOM thinking it is just family and internal med, but they have other good matches. This year didn't have a Neurosurgery or Derm match (although they have in the past, especially with VCOM having residencies in both specialties), but obviously can't judge the whole list by that, especially for an osteopathic school.
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Really? rofl. I've never opened one of the yearbooks.
 
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Yea this years has some pretty solid locations. For peds I see WVU, university of south Florida, carilion, Duke, medical college of Georgia, Oklahoma state, UC San Francisco, university of Louisville, and two at Wake Forest hospital.

Psych had UVA VCU and univ of Arizona.

Anesthesiology had VCU, St. Louis university and Wake Forest

Radiology had 4 total with VCU and univ of Louisville

EM had 17 matches with carilion, Florida Hospital, university of Florida and Wake Forest being some of the more notable places

Also had many match in family med and internal med at notable places such as the ones listed above. Mad props to the person who matches UCSF for peds. I looked on their website and none of their current residents are DOs.

I mention the academic institutions because they seem to be more prestigious and sought after. But since it is VCOM I assume many who could have been competitive at these places might have chosen a more rural location out of preference. Could be wrong though
 
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Really? rofl. I've never opened one of the yearbooks.
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Yep I pick one up simply for the match list, since you can't find it anywhere else besides that mysterious poster that pops up from time to time.
 
Gatorman177 said:
Yea this years has some pretty solid locations. For peds I see WVU, university of south Florida, carilion, Duke, medical college of Georgia, Oklahoma state, UC San Francisco, university of Louisville, and two at Wake Forest hospital.

Psych had UVA VCU and univ of Arizona.

Anesthesiology had VCU, St. Louis university and Wake Forest

Radiology had 4 total with VCU and univ of Louisville

EM had 17 matches with carilion, Florida Hospital, university of Florida and Wake Forest being some of the more notable places

Also had many match in family med and internal med at notable places such as the ones listed above. Mad props to the person who matches UCSF for peds. I looked on their website and none of their current residents are DOs.

I mention the academic institutions because they seem to be more prestigious and sought after. But since it is VCOM I assume many who could have been competitive at these places might have chosen a more rural location out of preference. Could be wrong though
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Just wanted to comment on the WVU match. I went to WVU for undergrad and worked in that hospital, and that school "traditionaly" isn't very D.O. friendly to say the least, which is unfortunate. BUT!, that match was in the dual IM/PEDs program which is even more competitive. So, that is HUGE for VCOM. I assume that WVU like most schools are beginning to open up to D.O. students, but nonetheless it speaks volumes to have a match at a school that traditionally in the past has taken virtually no D.O. students.

Also, there was an IM match at Cleveland Clinic, a Neuro Match at Wake Forest, etc.
 
AnonymousD.O. said:
Yep I pick one up simply for the match list, since you can't find it anywhere else besides that mysterious poster that pops up from time to time.
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Well if I stop by campus I'll have to look and see if there are any still left out. Good luck with your last few weeks of 1st year. Just looked at the calendar for ya, it's going to be a wild ride (this Thursday and Friday definitely).
 
DocVapor said:
Well if I stop by campus I'll have to look and see if there are any still left out. Good luck with your last few weeks of 1st year. Just looked at the calendar for ya, it's going to be a wild ride (this Thursday and Friday definitely).
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There are still tons left on the table by the door, at least as of today and they have been sitting there for a while. Unless they take them down for some reason I don't see them going anywhere. And yes, this week sucks haha. Anybody considering VCOM, I love it, but get ready for tests nonstop.
 
Why not just take a picture of the printed match list or scan it and post it here?
 
All of the incoming first years just received an email telling us that the online yearbook was updated with the residency placements of the Class of 2013! http://www.vcom.edu/AR/index.html Check p. 124
 
Walter H White said:
All of the incoming first years just received an email telling us that the online yearbook was updated with the residency placements of the Class of 2013! http://www.vcom.edu/AR/index.html Check p. 124
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WOW it's about time! to see the list, go to alumni section, pg 21 and you can scroll through all the 2013 matches
 
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One notable that hasn't been mentioned yet that I somehow forgot is the AOA Urology match 🙂 this year
 
The chief residents section is also pretty impressive... Neuro at Wake Forest, EM at Albert Einstein, PM&R at UVA, chief cardio fellow at VCU
 
Gatorman177 said:
The chief residents section is also pretty impressive... Neuro at Wake Forest, EM at Albert Einstein, PM&R at UVA, chief cardio fellow at VCU
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They also have had a chief resident for the Internal Med/Peds Residency at Geisiner in the past.
 
I've talked to some people that know the faculty well, and the match list is intentionally kept a secret from possible future candidates (i.e. it is in the back of a year book given to current students, but never published online).

Schools that match poorly often keep this information a secret because the results would scare candidates away from their schools. VCOM had to cancel two classes entirely for the class of 2015 due to poor academic quality. We are ranked in the bottom 10% of all medical schools. Of course there is no match list online. We have had many unmatched graduates last year.

After talking to past graduates, VCOM does have a number of people that match into specialties. We have a few people that have matched well in the past (about 5 or 6 that currently serve as chief residents). But REMEMBER, this is out of classes of nearly 200 students each year. The PERCENTAGE of people that match well is very low in our classes. Almost everyone else matches family or is unmatched.
 
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is vcom really this horrible? all these posts are freaking me out b/c I have a deposit down on VCOM and have to make the decision by TOMORROW to put down a deposit elsewhere if I change my mind
 
LuluMed said:
is vcom really this horrible? all these posts are freaking me out b/c I have a deposit down on VCOM and have to make the decision by TOMORROW to put down a deposit elsewhere if I change my mind
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Some of these things I've just heard. But most of this I've personally experienced. Honestly, if you have other options, seriously consider them. If not, you CAN survive VCOM. Just always be looking over your shoulder for big brother. Don't trust the nicest faculty (esp Prater). Apply to rotations half a year in advance (even Sarah can't make excuses for being this late). Etc. You'll just have to work a little harder and teach yourself a little better. Many of us have survived it. We just hated the experience.
 
footballstar01 said:
Some of these things I've just heard. But most of this I've personally experienced. Honestly, if you have other options, seriously consider them. If not, you CAN survive VCOM. Just always be looking over your shoulder for big brother. Don't trust the nicest faculty (esp Prater). Apply to rotations half a year in advance (even Sarah can't make excuses for being this late). Etc. You'll just have to work a little harder and teach yourself a little better. Many of us have survived it. We just hated the experience.
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No, I love vcom and these posts are crap. I have requested footballstars comments be deleted, total BS to name faculty by name online. Posting numerous posts in the last few days against his school tell me he probably did something stupid and is now venting.
While everyone can find faults in their school, vcom does have a great reputation for a reason. Don't let one idiot influence your decision.


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gohokies2005 said:
No, I love vcom and these posts are crap. I have requested footballstars comments be deleted, total BS to name faculty by name online. Posting numerous posts in the last few days against his school tell me he probably did something stupid and is now venting.
While everyone can find faults in their school, vcom does have a great reputation for a reason. Don't let one idiot influence your decision.


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that poster's comments are a little exagerrated but it is nice to have a mix of both positive and negative insights about a school from different people. He has just as much right to post his feelings about his school as you do.
 
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user3 said:
that poster's comments are a little exagerrated but it is nice to have a mix of both positive and negative insights about a school from different people. He has just as much right to post his feelings about his school as you do.
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He absolutely is entitled to his opinion, but he is not entitled to slander others or mislead people. The fact that he created an account last Friday and has done nothing but bash his school in a dozen posts should tell you something.
I don't want to get into a back and forth to just encourage him further, so I'll leave it at this: at any institution, whether it be this school specifically, medical schools in general, or real grown up work places, you will have people who always find a way to make things harder than they need to be. Anyone can find something to complain about, but the vocal 5% minority such as this guy do not represent the majority of the school.
 
user3 said:
that poster's comments are a little exagerrated but it is nice to have a mix of both positive and negative insights about a school from different people. He has just as much right to post his feelings about his school as you do.
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Ya I agree with gohokies2005. It'd be different if the person didn't make a new account, go to about 10 different VCOM forums simply to bash. The person is the definition of a Troll. Anybody that is reading this needs to know he/she is a troll, and go look to other comments that highlight both the good and bad about VCOM in a constructive way.

I had to personally Direct message a person who in another forum was was second guessing their deposit to VCOM based off these comments. People with experience on SDN know to take everything with a grain of salt but goes to show you that something like this can be harmful. I reported the messages as well, on the grounds of using Administrator's Names directly.....way out of line and unprofessional
 
AnonymousD.O. said:
Ya I agree with gohokies2005. It'd be different if the person didn't make a new account, go to about 10 different VCOM forums simply to bash. The person is the definition of a Troll. Anybody that is reading this needs to know he/she is a troll, and go look to other comments that highlight both the good and bad about VCOM in a constructive way.

I had to personally Direct message a person who in another forum was was second guessing their deposit to VCOM based off these comments. People with experience on SDN know to take everything with a grain of salt but goes to show you that something like this can be harmful. I reported the messages as well, on the grounds of using Administrator's Names directly.....way out of line and unprofessional
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I'm not saying everything they posted was appropriate. However, I disagree with your tendency to automatically be skeptical of an unhappy student and automatically defend the school. Just because his opinion is negative doesn't make it any less valid. Yea he could have been more tactful, but being instantly dismissive of someone who may have a fully legitimate reason to feel as they do is not the right response.
 
user3 said:
I'm not saying everything they posted was appropriate. However, I disagree with your tendency to automatically be skeptical of an unhappy student and automatically defend the school. Just because his opinion is negative doesn't make it any less valid. Yea he could have been more tactful, but being instantly dismissive of someone who may have a fully legitimate reason to feel as they do is not the right response.
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I actually agree with this, and I go to a school I like very much, but is regularly criticized (mostly by pre-meds) for some of its policies. The truth is we all go to schools that aren't the top of the top. Every one of us has things we hate about our school and how they do things, and there is certainly room for improvement especially when it comes to clinical education and matching.

It helps no one to simply say "XCOM sucks" without some real and tangible explanation, but it also doesn't help for anyone to dismiss posts when real problems are specifically mentioned or to just say "XCOM rocks". Personally, I managed to be comfortable with my school by talking to enough students and explicitly asking about the pros and cons. I noticed what cons constantly came up and I compared them to the pros, and felt comfortable that for me the pros significantly outweighed the cons.

The people who had nothing to say when it came to pros or nothing to say when it came to cons were generally the least useful as far as I'm concerned. I know plenty of docs and med students from top 10 US MD to unknown Carib. They all have pros and cons to say, and that's how real life is. Another perspective is valuable, especially if it's actually from a student who's gone through at least 3 years at the school.

Also, it's clear that they aren't bashing everything about VCOM, because they had little to say about pre-clinical education (which was probably solid), and they also said that they heard that the clined person at VCOM-CC is really on the ball and good.
 
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Gatorman177 said:
The chief residents section is also pretty impressive... Neuro at Wake Forest, EM at Albert Einstein, PM&R at UVA, chief cardio fellow at VCU
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Vcu doesn't have a DO chief cardio fellow. The fellows website has 1 DO fellow, a first year...they have like 15 fellows total.
 
Gatorman177 said:
Mad props to the person who matches UCSF for peds. I looked on their website and none of their current residents are DOs.

I mention the academic institutions because they seem to be more prestigious and sought after. But since it is VCOM I assume many who could have been competitive at these places might have chosen a more rural location out of preference. Could be wrong though
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The person matched at UCSF-Fresno which is not even close to being on par with the actual UCSF.

Here is UCSF-Fresno: http://www.fresno.ucsf.edu/pediatrics/residents.htm

The actual UCSF program only has MD grads: http://pediatrics.ucsf.edu/medical-education/residency/people/residents
 
Yeah, UCSF =/= UCSF-Fresno. DOs (and IMGs for that matter) match UCSF-Fresno all the time. Not a terrible program (at least from the perspective of the one guy I know who trained there), but it's nowhere near the competitiveness of UCSF.

To be clear, I think in most cases its useless to look at match lists, especially only one year. In some cases it's useful of you're interested in a specific program or specialty, but even then you need to look at the match lists at one school across a few years at least, and comparing to other schools is not particularly scientific. All they really tell you is about where those individuals went. You know nothing about their individual stats, their goals, how far down their ROL they went, their connections, etc.
 
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