Walden University

[DVKitten]

I have been looking at all of the information in the forums on on-line education. I want to know if anyone has heard of Walden University, and their PhD program.

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[psychwhy]

... I would venture a guess that most everyone here has heard of it.

It is a regionally accredited (read: real) distance-delivered program.
It is not APA-accredited, but does include a face-to-face component that should leave you eligible in most jurisdictions that do not require graduation from an APA-accredited program.

I say should because you will encounter a pretty strong anti-distance prejudice from many in the field (check the current discussion on online classes posted in this forum for a polite taste; http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=363696).

Like most online programs, it is intended for mid-career adults who already have had advanced level experience in the field.

That is a very short synopsis. I am sure others will now add much more!

 

[psycholytic]

I have been looking at all of the information in the forums on on-line education. I want to know if anyone has heard of Walden University, and their PhD program.

yes

 

[DVKitten]

... I would venture a guess that most everyone here has heard of it.

It is a regionally accredited (read: real) distance-delivered program.
It is not APA-accredited, but does include a face-to-face component that should leave you eligible in most jurisdictions that do not require graduation from an APA-accredited program.

I say should because you will encounter a pretty strong anti-distance prejudice from many in the field (check the current discussion on online classes posted in this forum for a polite taste; http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=363696).

Like most online programs, it is intended for mid-career adults who already have had advanced level experience in the field.

That is a very short synopsis. I am sure others will now add much more!

Thanks! I live in NY state and it seems that I can sit for the exam if I opt to attend Walden. I have been looking at many online schools because I have a full time job and would love to save up. I have seen the anti-distance learning threads here (I almost didnt post this out of fear of being hung 😀 ).

 

[PsychGraduate]

Thanks! I live in NY state and it seems that I can sit for the exam if I opt to attend Walden. I have been looking at many online schools because I have a full time job and would love to save up. I have seen the anti-distance learning threads here (I almost didn't post this out of fear of being hung 😀 ).

There is selection bias, disinformation about online programs, competition between so called brick and mortar and online Universities, and some bad apples who attend online Universities for the wrong reasons as well. All in all, however online education can be a very positive thing and Walden University is one of several viable options where in many states one can sit for the APA licensing exam. Here in CA the internships need not be APA accredited either although I would suggest getting some that are to be competitive.

 

[NYU-PSYDOC]

First, some factual indormation regarding Saybrook U. & Walden U:
Saybrook U. HAS AN APA ACCREDITED Pays Program. It is a HYBRID, some online courses and many weeks involved in one of Saybrooks "brick and mortar" locations, known as "residentials." CONTACT hours are rigorously documented. Saybrook U. Also offers a Ph.D., which can be focused on several specialities within the vast scope of psychology. Many students are only interested in research, and fo NOT opt for a Clinical Ph.D. program. Also, many Saybrook doctoral students are already licensed at the masters level, a few have foreign soctoral and medical degrees. Saybrook has always held a tradition for those who are interested in a RESEARCH degree. In fact, in terms of alternative medicine approaches, sport psychology and many esoteric specialities-Saybrook is a leader in graduate peer-reviewed, APA publications. ALL students are enrolled in HYBRID, not "online-only" programs. ALL students in graduate degree programs must spend several weeks per academic year at F2F, residential facilities where faculty and students interact for long days; their attendance documented and performance graded.
▪Walden University uses a similar hybris model. Students spend 2 weeks each summer at Walden U's partner, INDIANA U. Bloomington. Days are long and intense. Additionally clinical courses include a residential component requiring a number of days in residence at a Walden U residential brick & mortar facility to be able to pass the course. Walden Ph.D. in psychology are NOT STIGMATIZED; in fact most clinical students easily find internships (depending on the state elected to be licensed in, and this is true for ALL online schools...some states are impossible to be licensed in while other states welcome Saybrook & Walden U. students).
☆As respects the comment made regarding the medical school professor who is a Saybrook graduate: this student has a foreign Ph.D. and a foreign medical school degree (Mexico/South America) and simply wanted a USA-PhD; Saybrook made that possible. The student in question does NOT practice or teach in the USA, but is W.H.O.-accredited to practice in Mexico.
IN SUM: not all states will accept students from hybrid, online schools such as Saybrook, Walden and Capella, however the majority of STATES WILL. In fact, Saybrook & Walden U. admissions counsellors will steer away students who wish to be licensed in an "online/hybrid" state...screeninf is done so that students do not graduate and find that they cannot be licensed where they are already established; again, the typical student at these schools already has accumulated brick and mortar credentials and is older, seeking to fit a graduate degree into an already established busy professional life.
Anyone can find this information in the particular school catalogue of the three schools described here.

As an administrator in traditional academia, I was tasked with comparing such universities rigor. I must say the faculty at schools such as Saybrook are prodigiously published, well known scholars.

 

[psych.meout]

Wow, what a garbage thread.

 

[PsyDr]

I found the days at an actual brick and mortar grad school to be long. Every day.

Nice one day old account, bumping a thread from a decade ago.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Pay six figures for the privilege of being shut out of jobs because online training has a huge stigma and ppl in hiring positions don't trust "those programs". Of course, you can't qualify for licensure and getting licensed at the MS level won't be enough to repay those loans, so there are bigger problems to worry about.

Online training....err....hybrid training sounds great!

 

[WisNeuro]

Obvious school marketing account is obvious.

Kids, just look at the data regarding level of debt and ability to obtain an accredited internship and later a job. If that alone can't convince you that these are terrible programs, then you deserve the debt you get and the near poverty line existence you are setting yourself up for after making loan payemnts. Simple as that.

 

[MCParent]

As an administrator in traditional academia, I was tasked with comparing such universities rigor. I must say the faculty at schools such as Saybrook are prodigiously published, well known scholars.

I'm super happy that I wasn't mid-sip in my morning coffee when I read this, or I'd have had to replace my "brick and mortar" school keyboard.

 

[WisNeuro]

I'm super happy that I wasn't mid-sip in my morning coffee when I read this, or I'd have had to replace my "brick and mortar" school keyboard.

That post was tl;dr for the most part, I missed that originally. I took a gander at the faculty list and I don't recognize a single person on there, not even those that call themselves neuropsychologists. I guess well-known is relative. maybe they all know each other very well?

 

[PsyDr]

Pack it in everyone. Random account says graduates from online schools are "well known" and "NOT STIGMATIZED".

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I took a gander at the faculty list and I don't recognize a single person on there, not even those that call themselves neuropsychologists.

Link to the bio pages...is this for Sayerbrook, Capella, etc? My morbid curiosity has taken over now.

 

[WisNeuro]

Link to the bio pages...is this for Sayerbrook, Capella, etc? My morbid curiosity has taken over now.

Faculty Directory Index -

 

[sfgucadoc]

I do recognize some of the faculty because they're Jungian folk I've read but in general, the faculty is not well-known re: research, etc.

And I just checked the APA website. The Saybrook program is NOT listed as being accredited. PhD or PsyD.

 

[LETSGONYR]

Faculty Directory Index -

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[ClinicalABA]

I found the days at an actual brick and mortar grad school to be long. Every day.

...four four straight years. Rather than 2 weeks of "long and intensive" days on per years, we got about two weeks off per year.