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[BMBiology]

Betting on automation is like betting on death or taxes. Eventually yes you will be right. Taco Bell already has ordering by app. Some places let you pay on your phone. Things are only going to move more in this direction. Doesn't take a savant to realize this. Keeping the minimum wage down isn't going to change that.

It may not stop automation but it certainly made it easier to justify.

Let's say you own an automation company and you are charging $50 k per machine. Last year you sold 1000 machines. This year a whole bunch of companies are coming at you at once and wanting to buy your machine because of all of this $15 an hour talk. You can then increase production, cut your overhead cost and only charge $40 k per machine. As a result, more companies buy your machine and automaton is pushed forward.

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[mentos]

Bad businesses went under, paved way for good ones.

LoL where were all these good businesses a year ago?

 

[BidingMyTime]

I'm betting the VR section pretty well tanked your MCAT.

Umm, you are responding to a post on the pharmacy board. I'd venture 98% of the people here never took the MCAT. Would be pharmacy students take the PCAT (I'm old and never took it, so I have no idea if there is a section on it that would correspond to this VR section on the MCAT you keep talking about.)

As for your (and your opponents) points, I think you are all half-right. How is that for good verbal meandering?

 

[lane one]

We have a part time tech in our pharmacy who turned down the full time position we're trying to fill because she said she doesn't want to lose the welfare she gets. I don't know why the welfare office doesn't ask us if there's any way she can work full time and we would tell them he truth so they would cut her benefits, but apparently no one cares enough to investigate people abusing hand outs.

It cost too much to investigate. Cheaper just to throw money at them.

 

[mentos]

Bad businesses went under, paved way for good ones. Unemployment fell and is well below national average at 4.2%

https://ycharts.com/indicators/seattle_wa_unemployment_rate

Tell me again how minimum wage hikes cause mass unemployment.

Of course unemployment will fall when everyone is asking for less hours so that they can keep their welfare!! They have to hire other workers to cover the shifts that people don't want anymore. SMH. The pharm tech below is a prime example!

We have a part time tech in our pharmacy who turned down the full time position we're trying to fill because she said she doesn't want to lose the welfare she gets. I don't know why the welfare office doesn't ask us if there's any way she can work full time and we would tell them he truth so they would cut her benefits, but apparently no one cares enough to investigate people abusing hand outs.

Why stop minimum wage at $15/hour? Why not $30/hour? Why not make every good business pay pharmacist salary as minimum wage? That way the bad businesses will go away and pave the way for good businesses! LoL!!

 

[mikejones123]

Minimum wage should go up with inflation. It is a travesty that people still make 9 bucks an hour in 2016. It paves the way for corporate welfare. Why should we the tax payers have to fund the welfare of people employed by multi national, multi billion dollar companies?? Companies like mcd, walmart, cvs have been living off the government for years. Its time they pick up the slack and take care of their own employees. If the only way a business can be profitable is by ripping off taxpayers, then maybe that business should cease to exist.

 

[Corpseman]

Minimum wage should go up with inflation. It is a travesty that people still make 9 bucks an hour in 2016. It paves the way for corporate welfare. Why should we the tax payers have to fund the welfare of people employed by multi national, multi billion dollar companies?? Companies like mcd, walmart, cvs have been living off the government for years. Its time they pick up the slack and take care of their own employees. If the only way a business can be profitable is by ripping off taxpayers, then maybe that business should cease to exist.

Yeah, it's a travesty that a 16 year old isn't making $15

 

[mikejones123]

Yeah, it's a travesty that a 16 year old isn't making $15

It is a travesty. Doesn't matter the age. Just focus on the work they do. Worker output is at an all time high. A 16 year old in 1968 had an adjusted to inflation min wage of about 11 dollars. But the overall work output that 16 year old in 68 did is 37 percent less than the 16 year old of today. People are working faster, harder, and more efficient now. Pay them a fair wage adjusted to inflation.

 

[BMBiology]

Minimum wage should go up with inflation. It is a travesty that people still make 9 bucks an hour in 2016. It paves the way for corporate welfare. Why should we the tax payers have to fund the welfare of people employed by multi national, multi billion dollar companies?? Companies like mcd, walmart, cvs have been living off the government for years. Its time they pick up the slack and take care of their own employees. If the only way a business can be profitable is by ripping off taxpayers, then maybe that business should cease to exist.

I have a question for you.

How do you stop someone from collecting welfare and still make $15 an hour? This person just has to work fewer hours and would still qualify for welfare.

 

[trailerpark]

I have a question for you.

How do you stop someone from collecting welfare and still make $15 an hour? This person just has to work fewer hours and would still qualify for welfare.

YOU CUT WELFARE BENEFITS. THATS THE ONLY WAY. THESE PEOPLE ARE SNEAKY AS FU*K.

 

[monkieez]

I have a question for you.

How do you stop someone from collecting welfare and still make $15 an hour? This person just has to work fewer hours and would still qualify for welfare.

Rather than increasing the minimum wage, maybe corporations that are abusing the welfare system could be required to pay for the welfare benefits their employees receive. That way they wouldn't have to pay more money for a 16 year old who wouldn't be eligible for welfares and it wouldn't encourage employees work less. I am just spit balling ideas. Or if you increase minimum wage and making it a living wage, you decrease/reduce welfare benefits or make it harder to obtain. It's not as a simple as telling people they need to get a better paying job than flipping burgers in order to support their family or suddenly giving people a huge pay bump and expecting people to spend it wisely or change their mentality of receiving benefits. The welfare system is too all or nothing (not enough graduations ) to motivate people to get out of it.

 

[monkieez]

YOU CUT WELFARE BENEFITS. THATS THE ONLY WAY. THESE PEOPLE ARE SNEAKY AS FU*K.

Lol I love that your name is trailer park. I agree that is one way to go about it but at the same time the amount people are paid should be reasonable.

 

[BidingMyTime]

. The welfare system is too all or nothing (not enough graduations ) to motivate people to get out of it.

This. When people have to choose between being homeless and working full-time or working part-time and getting plenty of state aid, who in their right mind would choose homeless and working full-time? There need to be more gradations so people who suddenly make $1.00 too much aren't completely cut-off. And I do see it as a form of corporate welfare when a company can pay low wages knowing that the state will take care of their employees. I'm not convinced that raising minimum wage is the answer. Unfortunately, this system we now have didn't spring up over night, and there are no easy answers to dismantling/improving it.

 

[knight on horse]

Just in time for me to go into finance

BTW ofc cheap labor is corporate welfare. Healthcare, education, policing, maintenance all paid for by the taxpayer while corporations benefit from cheap serfs.

Even with purportedly cheap products we have to consider that there is no free lunch, what with environmental degradation, traffic, crime, crowded spaces, collapsing emergency services, dumbed down schools. Since cheap labor are net tax consumers we had better be getting our money's worth for all this.