WAMC 2nd time applying

[MarkED20d]

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Date of submission: Hoping for early June
Overall GPA: 3.1
Science GPA: 3.2
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.2
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 21 AA
State of Residence: Maryland/WVU (very western MD)

Major: Biomedical Engineering
Minor: Pre-medicine
Minority? Yes, Native American and Hispanic
Reapplicant? Yes
Nontrad? 2nd time applying

Shadowing Experience: over 500 hours with gen dentist, 300 with ortho
Volunteering Experience: over 300 with a teacher; special ed so I cut out a lot of tiny things for the teachers to improve hands and workwith students with cleft palates in speech therapy.
Employment: full time engineer, continue to shadow dentist while working
Research: prosthetic research to go with my degree in engineering
LOR type and strength: LOR are ok, hoping they are in before june 1
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: did not receive any interviews last year, but I did apply very late
School list:


WVU, Pitt, UMD, Temple, Ohio, ECU, Louisville, Touro, LSU, UF (kinda anywhere within 2 hour flight)

 

[macsak]

Date of submission: Hoping for early June
Overall GPA: 3.1
Science GPA: 3.2
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 3.2
DAT score (include AA and all sections): 21 AA
State of Residence: Maryland/WVU (very western MD)

Major: Biomedical Engineering
Minor: Pre-medicine
Minority? Yes, Native American and Hispanic
Reapplicant? Yes
Nontrad? 2nd time applying

Shadowing Experience: over 500 hours with gen dentist, 300 with ortho
Volunteering Experience: over 300 with a teacher; special ed so I cut out a lot of tiny things for the teachers to improve hands and workwith students with cleft palates in speech therapy.
Employment: full time engineer, continue to shadow dentist while working
Research: prosthetic research to go with my degree in engineering
LOR type and strength: LOR are ok, hoping they are in before june 1
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: did not receive any interviews last year, but I did apply very late
School list:


WVU, Pitt, UMD, Temple, Ohio, ECU, Louisville, Touro, LSU, UF (kinda anywhere within 2 hour flight)

which schools did you apply to last cycle and when?

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? networking, volunteering in a D-school clinic, shadow faculty, etc.

 

[MarkED20d]

which schools did you apply to last cycle and when?

Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? networking, volunteering in a D-school clinic, shadow faculty, etc.

no networking or dental events. I applied to umd, howard, vcu, rutgers, unc, pitt, nyu, temple, touro, stony brook.... some of these schools like unc im not applying to this year, same with nyu its just a crazy amount of $ and unc is too hard for out of state and i applied in october.... ik im a clown and i have learned lesson

 

[macsak]

no networking or dental events. I applied to umd, howard, vcu, rutgers, unc, pitt, nyu, temple, touro, stony brook.... some of these schools like unc im not applying to this year, same with nyu its just a crazy amount of $ and unc is too hard for out of state and i applied in october.... ik im a clown and i have learned lesson

ok, thanks
how did you come up with this list?

 

[MarkED20d]

ok, thanks
how did you come up with this list?

I tried to find the schools within a 2 hour flight/6 hour drive from the DC area. From there, any school that does not really accept OOS or is crazy expensive I took it off the list. schools taken off: UNC, NYU, UPENN, Columbia, Stony Brook, ECU. would add more and i am open to take any off that are out of reach. I am the first in my family to go to a college in the united states so this is all new to me and my family

 

[macsak]

I tried to find the schools within a 2 hour flight/6 hour drive from the DC area. From there, any school that does not really accept OOS or is crazy expensive I took it off the list. schools taken off: UNC, NYU, UPENN, Columbia, Stony Brook, ECU. would add more and i am open to take any off that are out of reach. I am the first in my family to go to a college in the united states so this is all new to me and my family

ECU is on your list...

 

[MarkED20d]

ECU is on your list...

That one is coming off, they do not seem too OOS friendly and my application is nothing special so that one seems slim

 

[macsak]

That one is coming off, they do not seem too OOS friendly and my application is nothing special so that one seems slim

UF is also very OOS unfriendly

DAT score (include AA and all sections):???

 

[MarkED20d]

UF is also very OOS unfriendly

DAT score (include AA and all sections):???

ok, thank you for that info. 21 AA, 19 PAT, 23 QR, 23 RC, 21 BIO, 21 GEN CHEM, 19 ORGO

 

[macsak]

ok, thank you for that info. 21 AA, 19 PAT, 23 QR, 23 RC, 21 BIO, 21 GEN CHEM, 19 ORGO

was your TS 20 or 21?

 

[MarkED20d]

was your TS 20 or 21?

20

 

[macsak]

20

ah ok

your ts is below the average matriculant (20.5 or so), while your AA is slightly above (20.5 or so)
your gpa is below the matriculant average (3.55)

there are 8 schools remaining on your list if you take off ECU and UF
but only 2 are privates
you need to have a bigger list with a range of a couple reach schools, mostly in-range schools, and some safeties

you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"2 hour flight/6 hour drive" is not mission fit...

 

[MarkED20d]

ah ok

your ts is below the average matriculant (20.5 or so), while your AA is slightly above (20.5 or so)
your gpa is below the matriculant average (3.55)

there are 8 schools remaining on your list if you take off ECU and UF
but only 2 are privates
you need to have a bigger list with a range of a couple reach schools, mostly in-range schools, and some safeties

you get interview invites and acceptances from mission fit
"2 hour flight/6 hour drive" is not mission fit...

oh i see what you mean. dental schools who focus on giving back to the community (service) is my priority so UMD, WVU, Temple, and Ohio have stood out to me with their mission statements. I also was hoping to find schools with higher native American enrollment but that seems slim to 0 so I wrote my personal statement surrounding the hispanic community

 

[Mr.Smile12]

As a reapplicant, complete the Spring 2025 Applicant Experience Survey.

Are you doing any networking this time? SNDA chapter officers? Have you looked up anyone active in SAID?

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I think Arizona and Oklahoma have the highest number of students and patients of Native American heritage. I'd also check Buffalo. By flight time, Buffalo's pretty close.

University at Buffalo launches pipeline program to increase diversity in dentistry

University at Buffalo launched an initiative to remove barriers to dental careers for students of color.

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Fewer than 100 applicants (every year) identify as Native American (may include those that are multiracial).

 

[MarkED20d]

As a reapplicant, complete the Spring 2025 Applicant Experience Survey.

Are you doing any networking this time? SNDA chapter officers? Have you looked up anyone active in SAID?

Home

www.thesaidonline.org

I think Arizona and Oklahoma have the highest number of students and patients of Native American heritage. I'd also check Buffalo. By flight time, Buffalo's pretty close.

University at Buffalo launches pipeline program to increase diversity in dentistry

University at Buffalo launched an initiative to remove barriers to dental careers for students of color.

adanews.ada.org

Fewer than 100 applicants (every year) identify as Native American (may include those that are multiracial).

this is great info. I am a member of HDA . Thank you!!

 

[macsak]

oh i see what you mean. dental schools who focus on giving back to the community (service) is my priority so UMD, WVU, Temple, and Ohio have stood out to me with their mission statements. I also was hoping to find schools with higher native American enrollment but that seems slim to 0 so I wrote my personal statement surrounding the hispanic community

it's not that the enrollment is slim to none, it's that there's so few NA applicants...

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Make sure you complete the Spring 2025 Applicant Experience Survey (see signature).

Hopefully the networking helps. Reach out in the early stages of applying, even before applying if there is an opportunity. We have posted the dates of the ADEA GoDental Virtual Fair and steps to register.

 

[macsak]

it's not that the enrollment is slim to none, it's that there's so few NA applicants...

your biggest issue last cycle was your school list and applying in october
if you apply earlier in the cycle and have a broader range, your chances will be better...