WAMC/School List: 2.99 cGPA, grad GPA 3.8, 506 non-trad ORM, Heavy Research

[dogeatdog2795]

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1. usGPA 2.78, ucGPA (with 2 post bach classes with 4.0 in each)2.99, grad GPA: 3.8
2. 501,506 (126,124,126,130- choked)
3. Colorado
4. ORM Female
5. Normal Undergrad
6. Clinical Experience >10,000 hours
7. >10,000 hours (same as above) with 9 authored publications (no 1st author)
8. Shadowing experience and specialties represented: ~100 hours (joint replacement, Plastics, gyno)
9. ~50 hours
10. Other extracurricular activities: marathon runner (3x, upcoming ultra marathon), leaderhip position in sorority (nothing too interesting)
11. Relevant honors or awards: A few podium awards fro research (not first author)
12. Non-Trad (29 y/o female) who has worked in clinical trial research for big pharma for many years and decent story about my journey from that to medical school. Applied last cycle late and was about to apply this cycle until seeing my recent MCAT score which was below the FL averages. Any guidance is much appreciated!

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Where did you apply last cycle, and what were your results? What was your undergrad major, and what area is your grad degree in?

Are you willing to apply to DO this cycle since you would be an MD reapplicant?

50 hours of non-clinical volunteering? What did you do?

 

[dogeatdog2795]

I am open to DO, I need to learn some more information though. Any help with a school list would be hugely appreciated and just any insight if MD is likely out of reach at this point. Thanks!
Major: Molecular Biology Minor: Chem+ Business aadmin
Master's: Professional Science Master's in Biomedical Science
Volunteer:

• (non-clinical) Fund Raising for Multiple Myeloma and completing marathons for a cause (20 hours)
• (non-clinical) Harm Reduction Action Volunteer- collected trash and raised awareness for harm reduction ( 6 hours)
• (clinical) COVID Vaccine Clinic Volunteer- helped direct patients where to go and remain compliant with restrictions (6 hours)
• (non-clinical) Girls on the Run- helped raise awareness and volunteered to help girls in underseved communities become active in running. (16 hours)

Schools: applied very late in cycle due to having surgery so no II, and no secondary from my state school (they dont have in state preference)

Albany Medical College

Alice L. Walton School of Medicine

Anne Burnett Marion School of Medicine at TCU

Case Western Reserve University School of Medicine

Creighton University School of Medicine

Frank H. Netter MD School of Medicine at Quinnipiac University

Geisinger Commonwealth School of Medicine

Georgetown University School of Medicine

Indiana University School of Medicine

Kirk Kerkorian School of Medicine at UNLV

Loyola University Chicago Stritch School of Medicine

Medical College of Wisconsin

Oregon Health & Science University School of Medicine

Roseman University College of Medicine

Saint Louis University School of Medicine

Spencer Fox Eccles School of Medicine at the University of Utah

Stanford University School of Medicine

Thomas F. Frist, Jr. College of Medicine at Belmont University

Tufts University School of Medicine

Tulane University School of Medicine

University of Arizona College of Medicine - Phoenix

University of Arizona College of Medicine – Tucson

University of California, San Francisco, School of Medicine

University of Colorado School of Medicine

University of Nebraska College of Medicine

University of North Dakota School of Medicine and Health Sciences

University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine

University of South Dakota, Sanford School of Medicine

 

[Faha]

MD schools are unrealistic with an undergraduate cGPA of 2.99 and MCAT scores of 501 and 506. You could receive interviews at some DO schools (mainly the newer ones) and I suggest these with your stats:
Noorda-COM
ICOM
RVU-MONTANA
TOURO-MONTANA
BCOM (both schools)
UIWSOM
KHSC-COM
NYIT-AR
ARCOM
WCU-COM
ACOM
LMU-DCOM (all schools)
BUCOM
PCOM Georgia and South Georgia
LUCOM
WVSOM
UP-KYCOM
MU-COM
MERITUS
DUQCOM
LECOM (all schools)
Northern Colorado (when it opens)
D'Youville (when it opens)
Let us know a year from now how your cycle went.

 

[dogeatdog2795]

MD schools are unrealistic with an undergraduate cGPA of 2.99 and MCAT scores of 501 and 506. You could receive interviews at some DO schools (mainly the newer ones) and I suggest these with your stats:
Noorda-COM
ICOM
RVU-MONTANA
TOURO-MONTANA
BCOM (both schools)
UIWSOM
KHSC-COM
NYIT-AR
ARCOM
WCU-COM
ACOM
LMU-DCOM (all schools)
BUCOM
PCOM Georgia and South Georgia
LUCOM
WVSOM
UP-KYCOM
MU-COM
MERITUS
DUQCOM
LECOM (all schools)
Northern Colorado (when it opens)
D'Youville (when it opens)
Let us know a year from now how your cycle went.

Thank you for your input, does it make any difference that I graduated from undergrad 7 years ago? Does the graduate GPA trend (3.8) show any progress that would make a difference for MD?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

A PSM is not the same as an SMP. PSM's are great if you want to work in staff positions in research (generally speaking). That could explain your training for what you did in pharma/clinical trials management perhaps.

Also, your non-clinical volunteering is subpar. I usually disregard any activity with fewer than 50 hours (unless it's shadowing), and your four activities are each below 50 hours. That was just as much a reason why you weren't successful last cycle, and you are at risk of repeating going zero for n schools. You need at least 150 hours of service orientation activities (food distribution, shelter volunteer, job/tax preparation, legal support, transportation services, or housing rehabilitation) when you submit your application or it might be screened out at most schools.

 

[Faha]

Graduate GPA does matter for DO schools but not for most MD schools. The GPA-MCAT grid shows that applicants with your stats have a ~12% chance for a MD acceptance. That 12% includes those who did a SMP with a 3.7+ GPA (not included in undergraduate GPA), reinventors (those who had a GPA 1st year of undergraduate school of 1.3 and left school but years later finished school with a GPA of 3.5 for 3 years) and those from states with a large number of state public school positions and relatively few applicants (ie: Arkansas, Mississippi). Concentrate on a DO application and apply this month and submit all your secondaries by August.

 

[dogeatdog2795]

A PSM is not the same as an SMP. PSM's are great if you want to work in staff positions in research (generally speaking). That could explain your training for what you did in pharma/clinical trials management perhaps.

Also, your non-clinical volunteering is subpar. I usually disregard any activity with fewer than 50 hours (unless it's shadowing), and your four activities are each below 50 hours. That was just as much a reason why you weren't successful last cycle, and you are at risk of repeating going zero for n schools. You need at least 150 hours of service orientation activities (food distribution, shelter volunteer, job/tax preparation, legal support, transportation services, or housing rehabilitation) when you submit your application or it might be screened out at most schools.

apologies, I left out my 350 hours of COVID test volunteering, but this is more clinical. Would this not apply in this case? thank you

 

[Mr.Smile12]

apologies, I left out my 350 hours of COVID test volunteering, but this is more clinical. Would this not apply in this case? thank you

It helps for general non-clinical/clinical-adjacent volunteering. But I would encourage you to have some time engaged in the activities that I described.

 

[dogeatdog2795]

A PSM is not the same as an SMP. PSM's are great if you want to work in staff positions in research (generally speaking). That could explain your training for what you did in pharma/clinical trials management perhaps.

Also, your non-clinical volunteering is subpar. I usually disregard any activity with fewer than 50 hours (unless it's shadowing), and your four activities are each below 50 hours. That was just as much a reason why you weren't successful last cycle, and you are at risk of repeating going zero for n schools. You need at least 150 hours of service orientation activities (food distribution, shelter volunteer, job/tax preparation, legal support, transportation services, or housing rehabilitation) when you submit your application or it might be screened out at most schools.

Graduate GPA does matter for DO schools but not for most MD schools. The GPA-MCAT grid shows that applicants with your stats have a ~12% chance for a MD acceptance. That 12% includes those who did a SMP with a 3.7+ GPA (not included in undergraduate GPA), reinventors (those who had a GPA 1st year of undergraduate school of 1.3 and left school but years later finished school with a GPA of 3.5 for 3 years) and those from states with a large number of state public school positions and relatively few applicants (ie: Arkansas, Mississippi). Concentrate on a DO application and apply this month and submit all your secondaries by August.

Thank you for your reply, I understand that the PSM GPA does not go into the ugpa, so when a schools posts on MSAR that the consider both post bac and graduate, they only mean if you did an SMP and they will not in fact look at all graduate GPA's, even though a lot of my credit for my PSM was in clinic? The question on MSAR states:
What is the minimum undergraduate GPA to consider an applicant's postbacc or graduate coursework? The "graduate work" is only for an SMP and they wont actually take into account my graduate degree?

For example OHSU says "
What is the minimum undergraduate GPA to consider an applicant's postbacc or graduate coursework?
2.8
Minimum undergraduate GPA for consideration - additional information
A culumative total GPA (including any postbacc or graduate coursework) of 2.8 or above is required for eligibility. There is no minimum GPA for undergraduate specifically.

I appreciate the clarification and will update applications accordingy if they do not really take this into account.

 

[Faha]

OHSU mainly admits state residents and those with a strong connection to the state. As I mentioned above, the GPA-MCAT grid shows applicants with your stats have ~12% chance for a MD acceptance. It would be lower for a Colorado resident. MD schools do not need to accept applicants with a sGPA below 3.0. They have plenty of other applicants with much higher stats.