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@Faha @Goro I would appreciate your help greatly!

 

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If you will be applying as a Texas resident, apply to all the TMDSAS MD and DO schools. You could also try TCU-UNT and Tulane for AMCAS schools. OOS MD schools interview few Texas residents with your stats since they know from years of experience that Texas applicants will attend a Texas school.

 

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I agree with applying to all TX schools.
UC Davis only takes 1 or 2 OOS a year.
OHSU and U Washington are very unlikely for OOS applicants as well.

 

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Thank you for the advice! Right now, UCLA is my top choice. Is there a way I can express that I want to leave TX to my OOS schools?

UCLA admits few non residents with your stats and other OOS schools are unlikely to be convinced that you will leave Texas to attend their school unless you have some strong connection to the school AND have stats that are competitive for that school (you are not competitive for UCSF and UCLA).

 

[Goro]

@Faha @Goro I would appreciate your help greatly!

Chances best in TX for MD. Texans who go OOS tend to be superstars.

You're fine for any DO school, so try
TCOM
UIW
OKCOM
KCOM
ACOM
DMU
AZCOM
WESTERNS both
TUNCOM
TOURO.CA
ACOM
WCU

 

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Thanks so much! My TMDSAS stats are a bit stronger (cGPA 3.75, sGPA 3.67). Definitely interested in some of the MD schools here but worried about more rural schools for my own safety/sanity.

From this reply, started checking out DO schools. Since I know less, I'm struggling to figure out which schools are sketchy and which are worth it. Definitely interested in Western (grew up in IE) and Tuoro, but also looking into Chicago Midwestern and NY Institute of Tech. Any thoughts on those? Especially as someone not super focused on primary care?

All good schools. I have a list of Bad Boy schools and my advice is to NOT apply to those schools
ARCOM: Required mandatory lecture attendance during the COVID pandemic!
Lecturers were outside speakers and could have taught via Zoom.
They also require lecture attendance for struggling students, as if passive learning is going to be a major positive factor for these sorts of students

And now they’re on heightened monitoring for accreditation: Accreditation Decisions for Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine


LUCOM: I have a profound distaste for the politics of their parent organization; they’re disingenuous about whether their strict lifestyle rules apply to medical students (they do); and their Faculty make blatant attempts to twist facts to match their theology. In the midst of the COVID19 pandemic, Liberty president Jerry Falwell Jr insisted that the campus stay open! This was in violation of state lawBlack Liberty University alums rebuke Jerry Falwell after blackface tweet

And read this, while you’re at it:

https://slate.com/culture/2020/08/l...football-sports.amp?__twitter_impression=true

From the wise gyngyn: Liberty is poorly regarded due to the history of intolerance of their founding fathers. This school's reputation for intolerance puts its grads at a disadvantage at many reputable residency programs.


LMU: the administration of the parent body fired a dean for supporting social justice and racial equality.

Their position is: On August 14th (2020), an Associate Dean of Students emailed new student policy that stated “You are not allowed to be involved in any form of public statement about social justice and racial inequities in medicine in any prominent location on the LMU campus”."



BCOM: Also this: granted Accreditation with Heightened Monitoring. This indicates that fewer than three standards are non-compliant and ongoing monitoring will occur via progress reporting. For schools with this status, accreditation will be granted for four years.
Accreditation decisions for colleges of osteopathic medicine


ICOM: Not recommended due to the apparent dishonesty they had in setting up their school that poisoned the relations with hospitals in Idaho and/or the Idaho Medical Association. In addition, most of their rotation sites are very far away from the school. This raises the risk that the rotations are not adequately supervised, and preceptors are not fully trained in teaching. And they have the nerve to give you only 48 hours to decide upon submitting a $1500 deposit!



RVU: I find for profit schools to be distasteful to medical education, but this is outright disgusting behavior:

No matter what RVU tells you, don’t apply Caribbean

With all due respect to those attending and applying to RVU, because it has a solid track record academically, I believe it’s unethical for the school to give leads to Caribbean programs. Though St George seems to be one of the better ones, there are still high attrition rates making it a risky...

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BTW, brand new DO schools are to be avoided (unless it’s your only accept) until they at least graduate a class. It takes time for faculty to gel and deliver a coherent curriculum; they have limited clinical rotations sites [it takes time to build these!], the degree of oversight of clinical training will be weak; the schools are unlikely to have resources for struggling students or those with mental health needs; lastly their grads will be unknown products to residency program directors.

 

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[Goro]

I can't recommend applying MD outside of TX.

For DO schools, your additions are good, just watch the tuition at CCOM.

 

[chilly_md]

Keep OOS MD off your list aside from Tulane.

Ensure you apply to TCOM as well. Sam Houston is also worth an add.