Wardrobe for 2nd Look... with "interview" on itinerary?

[LucidSplash]

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So, I'm doing a 2nd look next week. The PC just sent me my itinerary for the visit and on it there are 2 meetings - one with the Associate PD (PD is out of town next week) and one with the Chair. On the itinerary, they are listed as "interviews."

So, I wasn't going to wear my suit to this visit, just professional dress clothing. Other than these "interviews," I'll be going to core lectures and M&M and having lunch with some residents. However, now with that "interview" word thrown in, I'm trying to figure out what the expectations are. I'm flying in for less than 18 hours, and prefer not to bring the suit along if possible.

Thoughts?

EDIT: Because it is germane to the question, I am FEMALE.

 

[VandyMD10]

So, I'm doing a 2nd look next week. The PC just sent me my itinerary for the visit and on it there are 2 meetings - one with the Associate PD (PD is out of town next week) and one with the Chair. On the itinerary, they are listed as "interviews."

So, I wasn't going to wear my suit to this visit, just professional dress clothing. Other than these "interviews," I'll be going to core lectures and M&M and having lunch with some residents. However, now with that "interview" word thrown in, I'm trying to figure out what the expectations are. I'm flying in for less than 18 hours, and prefer not to bring the suit along if possible.

Thoughts?

I dunno...if it says interview and you're meeting the chair, I'd probably put on the suit.

 

[Nick99]

So, I'm doing a 2nd look next week. The PC just sent me my itinerary for the visit and on it there are 2 meetings - one with the Associate PD (PD is out of town next week) and one with the Chair. On the itinerary, they are listed as "interviews."

So, I wasn't going to wear my suit to this visit, just professional dress clothing. Other than these "interviews," I'll be going to core lectures and M&M and having lunch with some residents. However, now with that "interview" word thrown in, I'm trying to figure out what the expectations are. I'm flying in for less than 18 hours, and prefer not to bring the suit along if possible.

Thoughts?

Suit is very important, it tells a lot about you. Even before you start to talk. And you want your suit to tell a good story about you, right? But, please don't take anything with strips, it's not good. Some people think it's sissy. What colors are good? Well, first you should know which ones are bad, I guess. Never wear loud ( intensive ) colors. That's no no. Not even too dark or something that looks depressive, like gray. What I would pick up is some warm dirty colors with combination of something darker and casual. What I mean by that? Example1; navy blue pants, black suit jacket, dirty blue shirt, black tie. That's it. Example 2; Black pants, light brown jacket, dirty yellow shirt, color of the tie similar like color of shirt, not big contrast. Fabric is important too, like something light, not heavy, something that makes you feel comfortable. Good luck.

 

[Dr.LeoSpaceman]

Suit is very important, it tells a lot about you. Even before you start to talk. And you want your suit to tell a good story about you, right? But, please don't take anything with strips, it's not good. Some people think it's sissy. What colors are good? Well, first you should know which ones are bad, I guess. Never wear loud ( intensive ) colors. That's no no. Not even too dark or something that looks depressive, like gray. What I would pick up is some warm dirty colors with combination of something darker and casual. What I mean by that? Example1; navy blue pants, black suit jacket, dirty blue shirt, black tie. That's it. Example 2; Black pants, light brown jacket, dirty yellow shirt, color of the tie similar like color of shirt, not big contrast. Fabric is important too, like something light, not heavy, something that makes you feel comfortable. Good luck.

I don't think this directly answers the OP question, but I have to comment because it seems like some odd advice here.

Pinstripes are sissy? That might be the first time I've ever heard that. As long as you go with a soft pinstripe, usually on the narrow side, it will look just fine. The point is not to look you stepped out of "Goodfellas".

And gray is depressing? Hardly. If anything the glut of solid black and dark navy suits is depressing. It was like walking around at a Funeral Director convention.

Solid black tie with a navy tie is not easy to pull off, and certainly not with a blue shirt. It's just as easy for it to look like you picked out the tie in the dark as it does to look appropriate. You would be much better off with a solid/microcheck tie in a powder blue if you are aiming for ultra conservative.

I also would never go with a blazer/dress pant combo. If you are going to wear a suit, wear a suit.

And I will say, that perhaps more important than color is fit. It the suit doesn't fit right, or is all rumpled up, that says all I need to know. Shoes are also important. Shine them, and make sure it doesn't look like your dog was gnawing on them.

I rotated a blue pinstripe suit and a lighter gray suit this season, white shirts, and ties that had some color but weren't flashy. I got a number of compliments from interviewers.

 

[Nick99]

I don't think this directly answers the OP question, but I have to comment because it seems like some odd advice here.

Pinstripes are sissy? That might be the first time I've ever heard that. As long as you go with a soft pinstripe, usually on the narrow side, it will look just fine. The point is not to look you stepped out of "Goodfellas".

And gray is depressing? Hardly. If anything the glut of solid black and dark navy suits is depressing. It was like walking around at a Funeral Director convention.

Solid black tie with a navy tie is not easy to pull off, and certainly not with a blue shirt. It's just as easy for it to look like you picked out the tie in the dark as it does to look appropriate. You would be much better off with a solid/microcheck tie in a powder blue if you are aiming for ultra conservative.

I also would never go with a blazer/dress pant combo. If you are going to wear a suit, wear a suit.

And I will say, that perhaps more important than color is fit. It the suit doesn't fit right, or is all rumpled up, that says all I need to know. Shoes are also important. Shine them, and make sure it doesn't look like your dog was gnawing on them.

I rotated a blue pinstripe suit and a lighter gray suit this season, white shirts, and ties that had some color but weren't flashy. I got a number of compliments from interviewers.

Depends also on area where you live, as well as your personality, style, but in general your suite needs to reflect your identity, so it can make good fit and makes you feel comfortable and happy to be you🙂.

 

[LucidSplash]

Suit is very important, it tells a lot about you. Even before you start to talk. And you want your suit to tell a good story about you, right? But, please don't take anything with strips, it's not good. Some people think it's sissy. What colors are good? Well, first you should know which ones are bad, I guess. Never wear loud ( intensive ) colors. That's no no. Not even too dark or something that looks depressive, like gray. What I would pick up is some warm dirty colors with combination of something darker and casual. What I mean by that? Example1; navy blue pants, black suit jacket, dirty blue shirt, black tie. That's it. Example 2; Black pants, light brown jacket, dirty yellow shirt, color of the tie similar like color of shirt, not big contrast. Fabric is important too, like something light, not heavy, something that makes you feel comfortable. Good luck.

This is an asinine response because:

1) It assumes I'm an idiot.
2) It assumes I'm male (which I am not).
3) It assumes I do not already own suits.
4) It doesn't answer the question which is specific to a certain situation.

 

[SouthernSurgeon]

Example 2; Black pants, light brown jacket, dirty yellow shirt, color of the tie similar like color of shirt, not big contrast.

Dwight Schrute?

 

[Nick99]

This is an asinine response because:

1) It assumes I'm an idiot.
2) It assumes I'm male (which I am not).
3) It assumes I do not already own suits.
4) It doesn't answer the question which is specific to a certain situation.

LOL I didn't know you are a woman, sorry. In that case I would recommend type of wardrobe that would make you look like school teacher, librarian, or someone (defendant) who is about to testify in Court, you get my point?

 

[Dr.LeoSpaceman]

This is an asinine response because:

1) It assumes I'm an idiot.
2) It assumes I'm male (which I am not).
3) It assumes I do not already own suits.
4) It doesn't answer the question which is specific to a certain situation.

Well, I throw in my two cents on the original question, are you rounding with a team? If so, I think the full on suit would be a bit out of place. The best solution might be to wear the skirt/pants from your suit and white coat for rounds, but bring your suit jacket to throw on during the interviews.

 

[LucidSplash]

Well, I throw in my two cents on the original question, are you rounding with a team? If so, I think the full on suit would be a bit out of place. The best solution might be to wear the skirt/pants from your suit and white coat for rounds, but bring your suit jacket to throw on during the interviews.

No, not rounding. The other activities I'll be involved in are mentioned in the original post. Wearing the suit pants without the jacket really doesn't work because frankly the pants are not cut like regular slacks. Hard to explain.

I think I'm just going to ask the PC what is expected.

 

[Treg]

Well, I throw in my two cents on the original question, are you rounding with a team? If so, I think the full on suit would be a bit out of place. The best solution might be to wear the skirt/pants from your suit and white coat for rounds, but bring your suit jacket to throw on during the interviews.

Why not send a quick email to either the PD or PC about it? I went back for a second look that involved grand rounds, meetings, etc. so I just sent a quick email with this question. I even asked about bringing my white coat since I had some clinic/rounds scheduled. I ended up wearing dress pants and a sweater, which was totally fine (female). The other guy on second look while I was there wore a suit and ended up going to the OR to 'observe' (not allowed to scrub) and had to wear his dress shoes.

I don't think it is bad to ask, it just shows that you want to be prepared and professional.

Treg

 

[Nick99]

I don't think it is bad to ask, it just shows that you want to be prepared and professional.

Treg[/QUOTE]
Well, sometimes it is bad to ask something like this as it shows your lack of understanding what is appropriate and what's not, which can make bad impression about you.

 

[Winged Scapula]

You might compromise and wear a jacket and nice trousers (ie, not a matched suit, but a coordinating outfit). Less formal than a full on "interviewee black" suit but still presentable and not so over the top that you would stick out in M&M, etc.