Wha would you do to this Murderer?

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"Cops had said that the gunman -- a weasly figure sporting a backpack, beard and sunglasses -- calmly walked to the front of the shop, where Taccetta was standing at a counter and Sheffield was in a nearby aisle.
He then pumped a single bullet into the back of the head of Taccetta without saying anything, her family said.
And still without uttering a word, he shot Sheffield, too."

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The Souls of his dead victims cry out for justice. Life in Prison simply isn't an adequate punishment for this guy.

 

[aneftp]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/cops_arrest_long_island_pharmacy_cJH0vgShQqqeguPgLHerxN/0


"Cops had said that the gunman -- a weasly figure sporting a backpack, beard and sunglasses -- calmly walked to the front of the shop, where Taccetta was standing at a counter and Sheffield was in a nearby aisle.
He then pumped a single bullet into the back of the head of Taccetta without saying anything, her family said.
And still without uttering a word, he shot Sheffield, too."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/...pharmacy_cJH0vgShQqqeguPgLHerxN#ixzz1Q2UH7Sli
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The Souls of his dead victims cry out for justice. Life in Prison simply isn't an adequate punishment for this guy.

Well I almost had to do famous prisoner who murdered his wife and unborn child (wife was 8 months pregnant at the time) out in the Bay Area a few years ago when I was doing locums.

Prisoners are people..no matter the crime. We gotta just do our job. These guys are handcuffed to the bed. They aren't going anywhere.

 

[Impromptu]

Maybe we should start volunteering to perform lethal injections? Nah, still won't. I guess I did take an oath not to use my special medical knowledge to harm people. However, pulling the lever on a guillotine doesn't require any special knowledge, does it?

 

[pgg]

Life in Prison simply isn't an adequate punishment for this guy.

But neither is a speedy trial and execution. It's not like there's any kind of punishment waiting on the other side of death.

Personally, I think life in solitary confinement, in a windowless 6x8 concrete box, would be a far worse worse punishment than execution. I don't think it would pass the 'cruel and unusual' bit in the Constitution though.


His victims are dead. At this point, we can't 'win' in any meaningful way, all we can do is permanently remove the offender from society. To that end, life in prison is a simple solution and actually far cheaper than the death penalty.

 

[bronx43]

But neither is a speedy trial and execution. It's not like there's any kind of punishment waiting on the other side of death.

Personally, I think life in solitary confinement, in a windowless 6x8 concrete box, would be a far worse worse punishment than execution. I don't think it would pass the 'cruel and unusual' bit in the Constitution though.


His victims are dead. At this point, we can't 'win' in any meaningful way, all we can do is permanently remove the offender from society. To that end, life in prison is a simple solution and actually far cheaper than the death penalty.

How do you figure that?

 

[secretasianman]

But neither is a speedy trial and execution. It's not like there's any kind of punishment waiting on the other side of death.

Personally, I think life in solitary confinement, in a windowless 6x8 concrete box, would be a far worse worse punishment than execution. I don't think it would pass the 'cruel and unusual' bit in the Constitution though.


His victims are dead. At this point, we can't 'win' in any meaningful way, all we can do is permanently remove the offender from society. To that end, life in prison is a simple solution and actually far cheaper than the death penalty.

I keep hearing that, but how much is some potassium, vec, and pentobarb really?

 

[pgg]

How do you figure that?

I keep hearing that, but how much is some potassium, vec, and pentobarb really?

A few cents for the drugs, a few dollars for the packaging.

Millions of dollars to pay for endless court costs during the average 10-20+ years it takes to get the capital punishment conviction, process the many appeals

In some states it's far longer. This trend towards longer appeals and higher court costs is not reversing; if anything, with so many instances of convictions being overturned years and years after initial sentencing because of newly available DNA evidence, we can expect the process to take longer and longer.

Execution is a more expensive and inferior punishment. It lets the guilty off easier than life without parole, and costs too much.


http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

Not exactly an impartial web site, but most pro-death-penalty people don't really dispute the cost figures. To them it's an ideological issue, a matter of principle that these people be executed, and the higher cost is unimportant.

They argue for speedier trials and executions, but that will never happen.

 

[Apollyon]

They argue for speedier trials and executions, but that will never happen.

In 1901, Leon Czolgosz shot President McKinley on 6 September. President McKinley succumbed to his wounds on 14 September. He was executed on 29 October 2001 at Auburn prison in upstate New York.

20 years earlier, Charles Guiteau shot President Garfield on 2 July, and this President died on 19 September. Guiteau was found guilty, despite a heavy defense of mental illness, and appealed his conviction, which was denied, and was hanged on 30 June 1882 - just 9 months after his victim died.

In fact, both these guys would very, very likely not be executed today, as they would be found to not be fit for trial. However, ironically, if Garfield or McKinley were shot today, both of them likely would easily survive.

At the same time, these speedy trials were also a time when someone could get the noose/chair/gas chamber/firing squad for a bunch of felonies that did not result in the death of another person (like rape and kidnapping).

We call this "progress". Then again, "jurisprudence" is the longest "4 letter word" you may ever see, and, as I am wont to say, "there is nothing prudential about 'jurisprudence' today".

 

[geogil]

In 1901, Leon Czolgosz shot President McKinley on 6 September. President McKinley succumbed to his wounds on 14 September. He was executed on 29 October 1901 at Auburn prison in upstate New York.

20 years earlier, Charles Guiteau shot President Garfield on 2 July, and this President died on 19 September. Guiteau was found guilty, despite a heavy defense of mental illness, and appealed his conviction, which was denied, and was hanged on 30 June 1882 - just 9 months after his victim died.

In fact, both these guys would very, very likely not be executed today, as they would be found to not be fit for trial. However, ironically, if Garfield or McKinley were shot today, both of them likely would easily survive.

At the same time, these speedy trials were also a time when someone could get the noose/chair/gas chamber/firing squad for a bunch of felonies that did not result in the death of another person (like rape and kidnapping).

We call this "progress". Then again, "jurisprudence" is the longest "4 letter word" you may ever see, and, as I am wont to say, "there is nothing prudential about 'jurisprudence' today".

Fixed that for you. Unlikely that he was 120 years old at the time of his execution.

 

[Apollyon]

Fixed that for you. Unlikely that he was 120 years old at the time of his execution.

Good catch, thank you. I know a bit more about the McKinley assassination because I grew up just south of Buffalo, and worked across the street from the Wilcox Mansion (a/k/a the Ansley Wilcox House, now the Theodore Roosevelt Inaugural National Historic Site) for several years, where Theodore Roosevelt was sworn in on 14 September 1901 (and wore a coat he borrowed from Wilcox, as he did not have one suitable for the occasion).

 

[geogil]

Good catch, thank you. I know a bit more about the McKinley assassination because I grew up just south of Buffalo, and worked across the street from the Wilcox Mansion (a/k/a the Ansley Wilcox House, now the Theodore Roosevelt Inaugural National Historic Site) for several years, where Theodore Roosevelt was sworn in on 14 September 1901 (and wore a coat he borrowed from Wilcox, as he did not have one suitable for the occasion).

Is your status an allusion to a certain song about being a pirate in Sasketchewan?

 

[Apollyon]

Is your status an allusion to a certain song about being a pirate in Sasketchewan?

Stealin' wheat and barley and all the other grain!

 

[Mman]

How do you figure that?

Not only the costly appeals process, the actual cost of incarcerating inmates on death row is far higher than the life in prison people (on a yearly basis).

If they are going to kill you anyway, the inmates can and will do anything so they are held in tighter security that costs more.

Life in prison is dirt cheap compared to capital punishment. Considering the state of our economy, I can't figure out why more conservatives haven't decided to get rid of it.