What are considered 'reach' Osteopathic EM programs?

[gymshorts]

Title says it. What do you guys think?

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[DO2016EM]

Title says it. What do you guys think?

Mt. Sinai, Barnabas, Arrowhead, Doctors, Genesys, Sparrow, Einstein, Lehigh, Olympia fields, and West Islip would be the main ones I'd say are the most competitive DO programs. In reality, even with high boards, most DO places will be reaches if you don't put in face time via shadowing or rotating.

 

[HooliganSnail]

Mt. Sinai, Barnabas, Arrowhead, Doctors, Genesys, Sparrow, Einstein, Lehigh, Olympia fields, and West Islip would be the main ones I'd say are the most competitive DO programs. In reality, even with high boards, most DO places will be reaches if you don't put in face time via shadowing or rotating.

I don't know why Genesys is so "competative". I thought it was a horrible hospital. I know several medical students who trained there, and didn't even bother to apply, much less rank, a residency at that place.

Med Ed has a stick up their ass about didactics, which generally occur at the level of a 2nd year med student.

Autonomy is virtually non-existant, and it shows because the senior residents just arn't that good.

The program director is one of the most stuffy, unapproachable people I have ever met, everyone is afraid of him, and I think it trickles down through the entire program.

If you want to have your hand held all through residency, learn to call down a specialist for every complaint, fight for procedures and intubations with IM, Anesth, and Gen Surg, and see almost no trauma, much less become competent at managing a bad trauma, even though they are a "level II Trauma Center", then go to Genesys.

If you actually want to "learn by doing", then go somewhere else.

 

[engineeredout]

Considering just about every EM position has filled for the last four years or so, you should probably look upon all the programs as "reach" and don't assume being able to just stroll into others. They're all going to be competitive. They all want the best residents they can get. They all know they're going to have more applicants than they know what to do with.

 

[DOorDONT]

Every EM program is now a reach. There are too many applicants and very very few spots. That alone should scare you. So don't say no to anything. Remember the EM programs don't need you. They can just pick another applicant out of the "box". You're disposable. So take whatever comes your way.

#stayhumble
#beggarscan'tbechoosers.

 

[Hamhock]

What kind of tribal question is that?
'Reach' implies 'best' or 'competitive'.
OP, are you really asking which EM programs are good but still tolerate 'osteopathy'?
Forget this 'osteopathy' vs allopathic medicine nonsense.
Ask yourself, which program will give you the best training in emergency MEDICINE.
HH

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[gutonc]

What kind of tribal question is that?
'Reach' implies 'best' or 'competitive'.
OP, are you really asking which EM programs are good but still tolerate 'osteopathy'?
Forget this 'osteopathy' vs allopathic medicine nonsense.
Ask yourself, which program will give you the best training in emergency MEDICINE.
HH

Moderators: yes, this may turn into a DO vs MD thread; but it is not yet...and nothing will change unless we openly discuss this.
Enlightenment. Free speech. Rejection of magic/religion and such.

To be fair, the OP asked his question over 2 years ago ad hasn't been seen in over a year. No real need to close this but it also didn't really need to be bumped either.