What are my chances

[WAMCHELP123]

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[WAMCHELP123]

@Goro @Faha @gyngyn @LizzyM @Mr.Smile12 and anyone else your expertise would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Faha]

I suggest these schools from your list:
Albany
central michigan
rosalind frankilin
creighton
hofstra
drexel
eastern virgina
Quinnipac
Dartmouth
George washington
Georgetown
seton hall
toledo
cinicinnati
Rochester
Boston university
tufts
einstein
Ichan mount sinai
Pitt
Usf morsani
Miller
tulane
Indiana
Kaiser
Temple
medical college Wisconsin
new york medical college
Oakland beumont
Penn state
University of vermont
Thomas Jefferson
TCU and UNTHSC school of medicine
uniformed services university
U of M
Virgina commonwealth
wake forest
Wayne state
western Michigan
Also add Michigan State

 

[Goro]

Remove the following. You don't need DO schools on the list. Of the ones remaining, invest in MSAR Online and then remove those schools where your GPAs are < their 10th %iles for acceptees.




FAU
FIU
cinicinnati
Usf morsani
geisinger
Indiana
Kaiser Temple
Loma Linda (Keep if you're SDA or very devout Christian)
Penn state
stony brook
Suny downstate and upstate
uniformed services university (are you aware of the service requirements???)
alabama
iowa
maryland
Wisconsin
virgina tech
wright state

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Your metrics should give you a strong shot for an MD-only list. Not a lot of physician shadowing, but you've reached the minimum 50 hour recommendation with some primary care included. I would cut your list down by eliminating a lot of the public schools where your OOS odds are really bad. Being from Michigan, your in-state schools should all be in play.

 

[WAMCHELP123]

@Goro and @Mr.Smile12 I know about the service requirements and I would definitely want to do that if I am given the opportunity. I understand the requirement for the service and even if I do not get into the USU I was planning to do the HPSP regardless.

Also, for the DO schools, I want to apply because when I was shadowing the DO doctor, he was telling me about osteopathic medicine and that seems like something that I would really want to do, and I am not applying just because it might seem like a backup. One thing that really stuck with me when I was shadowing the DO is that even in the MD primary care the most common thing that people came in -at least from what I could tell is musculoskeletal pain- but the MD primary care doctor prescribed more opiates-albeit still very few- during a normal day than the DO. The DO doctor took the time to explain OMT and how it can help keep people from using opiates, and that is something that I think is a tremendous service to society. I decided to shadow a DO doctor late in this semester, and I really regret that as I should have shadowed more DOs when I could have, and that is the main thing that I plan to do when I can. I still want to apply MD to keep all possible avenues to me becoming a doctor open, but If I get lucky and get into a MD and DO school, I would have a really hard time making that choice as I stated I do not really care right now for a speciality and from the experience I have I would absolutely love to work as a primary care doctor, and Do schools seems to do a really good job in preparing students for that. Sorry for all the information, just wanted to explain my reasoning. I was wondering if yall could help me with a DO school list that does not require DO letters in 2020, or can direct me to a resource that does. I was also wondering if the low amount of hours shadowing a DO doctor would be a red flag in my application? Thanks for everyone's help so far, it has helped me a lot!

 

[Mr.Smile12]

@Goro and @Mr.Smile12 I know about the service requirements and I would definitely want to do that if I am given the opportunity. I understand the requirement for the service and even if I do not get into the USU I was planning to do the HPSP regardless.

Also, for the DO schools, I want to apply because when I was shadowing the DO doctor, he was telling me about osteopathic medicine and that seems like something that I would really want to do, and I am not applying just because it might seem like a backup. One thing that really stuck with me when I was shadowing the DO is that even in the MD primary care the most common thing that people came in -at least from what I could tell is musculoskeletal pain- but the MD primary care doctor prescribed more opiates-albeit still very few- during a normal day than the DO. The DO doctor took the time to explain OMT and how it can help keep people from using opiates, and that is something that I think is a tremendous service to society. I decided to shadow a DO doctor late in this semester, and I really regret that as I should have shadowed more DOs when I could have, and that is the main thing that I plan to do when I can. I still want to apply MD to keep all possible avenues to me becoming a doctor open, but If I get lucky and get into a MD and DO school, I would have a really hard time making that choice as I stated I do not really care right now for a speciality and from the experience I have I would absolutely love to work as a primary care doctor, and Do schools seems to do a really good job in preparing students for that. Sorry for all the information, just wanted to explain my reasoning. I was wondering if yall could help me with a DO school list that does not require DO letters in 2020, or can direct me to a resource that does. I was also wondering if the low amount of hours shadowing a DO doctor would be a red flag in my application? Thanks for everyone's help so far, it has helped me a lot!

Hopefully you already have access to the AACOM admissions websites, including their school search database: Choose DO Explorer Registration - Choose DO . Start there and reach out to admissions recruiters and current students attending those schools. I think the information on that database should include whether a DO letter is required; if not, it's somewhere on that website.

 

[Goro]

@Goro and @Mr.Smile12 I know about the service requirements and I would definitely want to do that if I am given the opportunity. I understand the requirement for the service and even if I do not get into the USU I was planning to do the HPSP regardless.

Also, for the DO schools, I want to apply because when I was shadowing the DO doctor, he was telling me about osteopathic medicine and that seems like something that I would really want to do, and I am not applying just because it might seem like a backup. One thing that really stuck with me when I was shadowing the DO is that even in the MD primary care the most common thing that people came in -at least from what I could tell is musculoskeletal pain- but the MD primary care doctor prescribed more opiates-albeit still very few- during a normal day than the DO. The DO doctor took the time to explain OMT and how it can help keep people from using opiates, and that is something that I think is a tremendous service to society. I decided to shadow a DO doctor late in this semester, and I really regret that as I should have shadowed more DOs when I could have, and that is the main thing that I plan to do when I can. I still want to apply MD to keep all possible avenues to me becoming a doctor open, but If I get lucky and get into a MD and DO school, I would have a really hard time making that choice as I stated I do not really care right now for a speciality and from the experience I have I would absolutely love to work as a primary care doctor, and Do schools seems to do a really good job in preparing students for that. Sorry for all the information, just wanted to explain my reasoning. I was wondering if yall could help me with a DO school list that does not require DO letters in 2020, or can direct me to a resource that does. I was also wondering if the low amount of hours shadowing a DO doctor would be a red flag in my application? Thanks for everyone's help so far, it has helped me a lot!

For DO schools, in no particular order, I recommend:

PCOM
NYITCOM
LECOM
VCOM
CCOM (just watch tuition!)
AZCOM
DMU
KCU
the coastal Touros
Western
KCOM
VCOM
CUSOM

You will need research who requires a DO LOR

 

[WAMCHELP123]

@Goro thanks for your help! I was just wondering would you recommend me applying to DO schools as soon as the application opens, or should I wait until I can get more DO shadowing and a DO letter to apply? I just do not know when this will be due to the current situation.

 

[Goro]

@Goro thanks for your help! I was just wondering would you recommend me applying to DO schools as soon as the application opens, or should I wait until I can get more DO shadowing and a DO letter to apply? I just do not know when this will be due to the current situation.

I think that you'll have time to get the shadowing in and the LOR. The DO cycle is longer and you'll be OK even with an Oct/Nov app.