What are you looking for?

[EmergencyMonkey]

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The other day I was trying to think back to undergrad, when I was working hard to get into medical school, and trying to remember what I would search for on the internet about medical school or being a doctor.
I bring this up because a colleague and I were talking about the vast access to information now, compared to when we were in school. We were watching one of the residents sifting through articles online and such and thinking back to easier times 🙂 I know I was always distracted with games and other online deterrents, but I really can't remember if I looked up anything about being a doctor or getting into med school (I must have, #dimentia). I know now, when I am obssessed about something I search day and night for answers.
I was curious what the premeds these days look for when it comes to searching for information about med school, med school life, internship, whatever, and how we go from just wanting to get in and looking for how, to getting in and then what? The focus shifts to searching for best programs, how to treat, where to work, etc.
Just curious what you guys are searching for these days.

 

[prado]

Hate to be that guy but why do you keep recreating your previous threads that keep getting closed for violating the TOS?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988330

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988217

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988299

😕

 

[coffeesnob]

How to do well on Step 1
How to survive financially during medical school

Other things --
Summer trip before medical school
Best daily schedule during medical school (when to wake up, eat, work out....)

 

[coffeesnob]

Hate to be that guy but why do you keep recreating your previous threads that keep getting closed for violating the TOS?

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988330

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988217

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=988299

😕

I think this thread is slightly different from the others.... I don't know. I think EmergencyMonkey really wants to help premeds. I really appreciate such support from attendings.

 

[ralphlauren55]

How much volunteer hours should we aim for to be competitive?

Step by step how to get research published? Starting from who to contact to start researching something.

 

[Mt Kilimanjaro]

The other day I was trying to think back to undergrad, when I was working hard to get into medical school, and trying to remember what I use to search for on the internet about medical school or being a doctor.
I bring this up because a colleague and I were talking about the vast access to information now, compared to when we were in school. We were watching one of the residents sifting through articles online and such and thinking back to easier times 🙂 I know I was always distracted with games and other online deterrents, but I really can't remember if I looked up anything about being a doctor or getting into med school (I must have, #dimentia). I know now, when I am obssessed about something I search day and night for answers.
I was curious what the premeds these days look for when it comes to searching for information about med school, med school life, internship, whatever, and how we go from just wanting to get in and looking for how, to getting in and then what? The focus shifts to searching for best programs, how to treat, where to work, etc.
Just curious what you guys are searching for these days.

In other words, "I'm getting ready to launch a website and currently feeling out the market. Please tell me what my business plan should be."

 

[Guero]

Highly suspect trollage... Inb4lock?

 

[EmergencyMonkey]

I think this thread is slightly different from the others.... I don't know. I think EmergencyMonkey really wants to help premeds. I really appreciate such support from attendings.

Thank you.

Here's the deal. Promoting, yes, but I have nothing to sell except insight. I'm not marketing a book, I'm not selling products, I'm reaching out before you get corrupted. It is this exact elitist, on guard attitude towards people and patients that gets carried through undergrad to med school and beyond that I think is a cancer. As I get older I find it is best to start at the beginning where I feel I can have the most impact.
Of course with that, I don't want to waste my time if no one gives a crap. If people aren't looking for this advice then why waste my time. Although my suspicion is most people don't even know they need it because of their attitudes and outlooks. Money is something I don't need. What I do need are future colleagues that aren't jerks to me and their patients.

 

[Mt Kilimanjaro]

Thank you.

Here's the deal. Promoting, yes, but I have nothing to sell except insight. I'm not marketing a book, I'm not selling products, I'm reaching out before you get corrupted. It is this exact elitist, on guard attitude towards people and patients that gets carried through undergrad to med school and beyond that I think is a cancer. As I get older I find it is best to start at the beginning where I feel I can have the most impact.
Of course with that, I don't want to waste my time if no one gives a crap. If people aren't looking for this advice then why waste my time. Although my suspicion is most people don't even know they need it because of their attitudes and outlooks. Money is something I don't need. What I do need are future colleagues that aren't jerks to me and their patients.

I applaud your efforts, but unfortunately I think the problem is not who enters the pipeline, but what happens while in the pipe.

http://harvardmacy.org/Upload/pdf/Hafferty article.pdf

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...sCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

http://journals.lww.com/academicmed..._Hardening_of_the_Heart_During_Medical.6.aspx

 

[yehhhboiii]

nvm

 

[EmergencyMonkey]

I applaud your efforts, but unfortunately I think the problem is not who enters the pipeline, but what happens while in the pipe.

http://harvardmacy.org/Upload/pdf/Hafferty article.pdf

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...sCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

http://journals.lww.com/academicmed..._Hardening_of_the_Heart_During_Medical.6.aspx

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree then 🙂 I think awareness is so important though and I feel going back to the begining of the pipeline is a great start to create awareness and build a foundation.
With the resistance to my threads in the past I think I am going to create the content and let the message speak for itself. If no one reads it or learns from it, then it's therapy for me.

 

[ralphlauren55]

Thanks for answering none of my questions...

 

[goofball]

Thanks for answering none of my questions...

Your questions have been answered at least 20 times in this forum, and have nothing to do with this thread.


@EmergencyMonkey:
If you had to make the decision to go into medicine again, would you do it? Why or why not?

 

[mcloaf]

Thanks for answering none of my questions...

They were certainly insightful and original.

 

[Mt Kilimanjaro]

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree then 🙂 I think awareness is so important though and I feel going back to the begining of the pipeline is a great start to create awareness and build a foundation.
With the resistance to my threads in the past I think I am going to create the content and let the message speak for itself. If no one reads it or learns from it, then it's therapy for me.

Assuming you're a EM doc who hates dealing with cocky consultants who are 28-30 years old and working their first real job, I sympathize with you. But there are schmucks in every profession. At my previous job, I sat next to a woman who literally watched the news on her computer for 4 hours per day. When I'd ask her to help me do something, she'd bitch and moan about how busy she was.

I think the culture has to change to one where deflecting patients and avoiding doing your job (politely offering expertise in your chosen specialty, getting off your a**, coming downstairs, looking at the patient, touching the patient, and if necessary, admitting them to your service) is completely taboo. Based on my second hand experience, it seems to depend greatly on the culture of the individual institutions and departments. Until that culture changes, well-meaning premeds will enter medical school and emerge jaded shells of their former selves.

 

[EmergencyMonkey]

I think the culture has to change to one where deflecting patients and avoiding doing your job (politely offering expertise in your chosen specialty, getting off your a**, coming downstairs, looking at the patient, touching the patient, and if necessary, admitting them to your service) is completely taboo. Based on my second hand experience, it seems to depend greatly on the culture of the individual institutions and departments. Until that culture changes, well-meaning premeds will enter medical school and emerge jaded shells of their former selves.

Sadly true.

I am really looking at these residents I have been working with and watching them treat patients downright mean like they have no business coming to the ER. How dare they! I use to get mad at patients too, then I realized I was unhappy and didn't feel satisfied with my patient care. The minute I changed my own attitude, giving patients the benefit of the doubt, standing my ground when I needed to in a nonconfrontational way, that was when I felt I did my best and more importantly, the patient, did their best.

I love that I am being called a troll because I am trying to find out if anyone is even looking for this kind of insight. Like I'm selling something. Unfortunately, it's this kind of attitude I am up against. Believe me it's easy for me to take my 400k and not give a s@#!, but that isn't doing the future of medicine and patient care any good.

Trying to show people a need they don't even know they need is not easy.

 

[coffeesnob]

Sadly true.
Unfortunately, it's this kind of attitude I am up against. Believe me it's easy for me to take my 400k and not give a s@#!, but that isn't doing the future of medicine and patient care any good.

Trying to show people a need they don't even know they need is not easy.

I don't think you are a troll. But you make 400k? I thought Emergency medicine (EM) physicians earn a mean income of 240k!? What contributes to your significantly higher salary -- experience, leadership position, etc? I am trying to figure out why some physicians in the same specialty make significantly more money than the other.

Thanks, Monkey!

 

[EmergencyMonkey]

I don't think you are a troll. But you make 400k? I thought Emergency medicine (EM) physicians earn a mean income of 240k!? What contributes to your significantly higher salary -- experience, leadership position, etc? I am trying to figure out why some physicians in the same specialty make significantly more money than the other.

Thanks, Monkey!

I am very fortunate when it comes to my working situation. Yes 400k. This is based on a few factors including being part of a small independent group, great reimbursement in a college town, great hospital negotiations. Who knows how long that will last but it has held true for several years. What is interesting is how some hospital reimbursement is becoming tied to patient satisfaction, like it or not. That's kind of what has sparked this whole movement for me.