Even if OP remains on the waitlist until April 1? I thought they only see more info if OP has been offered admission.
Not exactly, but close!!! 🙂
Correct. Until you have an A, you cannot PTE or CTE anywhere! This has nothing to do with the LOIs people love talking about on SDN, which are nothing more than non-binding expressions of interest applicants send to schools. The CYMS tool you are asking about is an actual enrollment management tool schools use that have real-world consequences, depending on how schools choose to use it.
Again, they CANNOT SEE ACCEPTANCES!!! They can only see whether you have selected PTE/CTE elsewhere. They can assume you have no As if they don't see PTE/CTE, but they cannot see As. As you know, having an A is very different from selecting PTE, and under certain circumstances, a school (or even, multiple schools) will allow you to hold an A after 4/30 without selecting PTE, in which case your WL school WILL NOT SEE IT (THEM).
I find this whole PTE/CTE thing confusing. If I get an acceptance to school X and select PTE for that school, what can other schools that I have interviewed with see while making their decision on me post-interview ? Can they see which school(s) I selected PTE with ? And how does this differ between now and 4/15 ? 4/30 ? After 4/30 ? Is all this stuff documented somewhere ? Seems misunderstood by many (including me).
It's complicated enough that a lot of premed advisors don't even know. It seems to change every other year, too.
Do they see number of PTEs?
Thanks! Nice explanation. Maybe the best I have seen yet on this forum.
Yes, because it is always one. No flexing by showing all your As on the system! 🙂 You can only have one PTE at a time.
Unless a school gives you a WL or A, and loads it into the AMCAS system, they can never see anything about you, until the end of the cycle (next October, when they will be able to see where everyone in their pool matriculated).
Sorry, wrong. Schools will not see where you PTE/CTE until the cycle is over and they see where you matriculated! And a school can ASSume anything it wants. If a school has allowed someone to hold an A without selecting PTE (maybe they haven't provided financial information yet, and they are not being dicks about it, even though, as you have repeatedly pointed out, they have the ability to do whatever they want), you will be holding other acceptances, and the WL school won't see them.
And MAR is ?
I thought you can do multiple PTEs but one CTE only.
The tool is only for people who have been accepted to a school. That school will require you to make your intentions known.
You thought wrong! 🙂
Multiple Acceptance Report. Before 2019, schools had access to a report that showed where each of their applicants held acceptances. This was deemed to be a potential anti-trust violation, since the schools are supposed to compete with each other (maybe based on price?) and letting them see where you held other As might help dictate who gets what scholarships. So, in an abundance of caution, AMCAS eliminated it, and replaced it with what we have now.
Except when it isn't, as in the examples I provided. You can absolutely have acceptances and not select PTE after 4/30. People have been doing it each of the past two years, and, I PROMISE you, will do it again this year, with the blessing of the schools involved. Schools can equate whatever they want, and they will be right, except when they are wrong. 🙂
*only schools which have accepted or waitlisted you will see PTE/CTE
I heard the concern wasn't in terms of price but actual acceptances. For example, if a superstar applicant held say an acceptance to Hopkins and UCSF, but HMS was their first choice and they were on the WL. Theoretically, with the MAR, HMS could see that the student was accepted to 2 other T5's and choose to pass over that student for someone with say a T20 acceptance on the WL with the assumption that it's more likely the student with multiple T5's would pass on HMS. The T5 matriculant could then believe they had grounds to sue Harvard for passing over them because of their other acceptances.
Multiple theoretical reasons why. It's just as likely that HMS would want to flex by pulling you off the WL to pull you away from UCSF or JHU. For the record, HMS and Stanford always do well head to head against everyone. What's more likely is that JHU would see that you don't have a HMS A, and wouldn't feel the need to give you merit money to lure you away.
And????? Do schools really award spots off the WL to people with no As, because they are more likely to attend, than to someone with an A, when they have no idea where that A is?
Really? Should I tell them I have no other options in a letter then?
Why waste his time when you are available to answer.
Based on this quote
It would be pointless to write them a letter telling them you don't have other options when they will assume so anyway. Maybe if you can update with something substantial it would be worth it
Not necessary. What he's saying is that they can see it by simply running a report.
I actually thought you were channeling Prince Charles and his relationship with his son! 😎
Yes.
I'm really worried about you, Lungs. How do you think telegraphing your desperation will go over?
transplant or inhale something which is legal in most states lately 😎
You can't PLAN TO ENROLL at a school to which you have not been accepted! Just not an option. You have no choice but to sit tight. CYMS will not be available to you until you have at least one A loaded into the tool. The tool is used to manage enrollment, not to gauge interest among candidates who have not been accepted.
I thought some schools had a sadistic side like to see you grovel. 😈
True, there's apparently only a tiny handful of those, thankfully.
