What characterizes the very highest scorers in big classes?

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I personally don't know people like this, but you guys might. I do well enough in classes, but not near the top. Do people who consistently post the highest scores in a biology class of 200+ people study much harder than everyone else? Do they sacrifice extracurricular or other commitments? I don't understand what it takes to push into that highest level when everybody else is supposedly studying a pretty good amount.

I'm sure there's nothing universal, but any trends?
 
The one thing that they have is common is knowing how to study extremely efficiently. They are capable of learning the same amount of information as a "good" student in a third of the time, or less.
 
I scored the highest on 2/3 exams in biology, one chemistry exam, and one calc exams. (class size ~ 200 for chem and bio and 80 for calc).

For each bio and chem exam, I usually study about 4-5 hours total for each exam, usually starting two days before the exam. What I find to be the most effective strategy is to read the book chapters first, then read my own notes, and then read someone else's notes. Reading someone else's notes in addition to your own is crucial. Also, do not highlight material or listen to music while you study.

For calculus, I looked over the notes and tried to link the calculus concepts to real life situations that I could think of. I also did about 2 - 3 practice exams before the test.

Also, If you have to make a decision to stay up vs.study, study. Pull an all nighter if you have a test before 10 AM, and sleep for two-three hours if you have a test after 1 PM. Do not drink coffee while studying.


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This is what works for me. It might not work for you. Just try it out and see.
 
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Well, how much you need to study to score high really depends on your abilities. Take my roommate for example, he went to all the organic chemistry lectures and studied a maximum of 5 hours per exam and was in the top 10 of each of the classes in the series (3 series, 250+ students each) 😱. Now, of course, he is also a genius considering he literally learned >95% of the material from just paying attention in class. I, on the other hand, scored in the top 30ish of each class and probably put in an hour or two a day and maybe 10 hours the day before an exam.

Scoring high consistently requires you to assess your study skills and come up with strategies to study more efficiently. Currently, I go to lectures and record them, but pay little to moderate attention (I tend to fall asleep). I'll then do one good run through of each lecture from the recordings and make sure I understand everything. Then a few days to a week before an exam, I start memorizing everything that's necessary and perhaps make PowerPoint summaries. Depending on the class, this amounts to maybe 3ish hours a week per class and probably 20ish hours the week of the test. Currently, I've consistently scored in the top 10 of 8 upper level science courses this year. However, I know of plenty of people that have a very difficult time understanding/memorizing material and spend considerably more time studying than I do and score average in the classes.

Hopefully as inspiration, I graduated with a 3.4 GPA while spending considerable time studying and doing so-so in classes, but have since gone back to take additional classes to raise my GPA and have made a 4.0 every quarter except one for nearly 2 years, while taking near the maximum amount of credits allowable of only upper level science courses. What's changed? I've figured out how I need to study to learn and retain material. You can do this too, start testing strategies and figure out what works best. Good luck! 🙂
 
That beautiful moment when you score the highest in the class 😀. Has happened once in a class of 125 students and the information just clicked with me. Some things just rub off on people better than others.
 
I did it consistently in my upper level bios and chems. wouldn't say I studied more than anyone else or neglected any other areas of my life, I just knew what worked for me and how to put in a little extra before exams. One of my motivations was that if I did really well on the exams leading up to finals I could slide a bit at the end
 
The one thing that they have is common is knowing how to study extremely efficiently. They are capable of learning the same amount of information as a "good" student in a third of the time, or less.

Exactly.

Planning and efficiency are the key. I often plan my study time out, and when I study, I always stay on task. Too often I see people "studying," when in reality they are just socializing/getting side tracked.
 
I am taking my pre-reqs at a state school that is essentially unknown, so I doubt it's the same as these 200+ student classes you're discussing. With that being said, I consistently score the among highest in my classes. I do every practice problem possible in the week (or 3-4 days) prior to the exam, and that's it.

I do take notes in lecture, but I rarely ever review them again. I also read the textbook chapters, something I never did in my non-science classes (I have a BS in econ). But this is just done once prior to attempting the practice problems. I often can't do most of the practice problems the first go through, but on the second or third pass I can often get most of them. If not, I'll either Google the exact question (because someone has certainly asked it on Yahoo Answers before), or Khan Academy/YouTube the topic to get a few minutes of targeted instruction.
 
I did it consistently in my upper level bios and chems. wouldn't say I studied more than anyone else or neglected any other areas of my life, I just knew what worked for me and how to put in a little extra before exams. One of my motivations was that if I did really well on the exams leading up to finals I could slide a bit at the end

This is what I do. I just found what works best for me as studying goes. Usually I study a bit each day (making sure that I could teach it to someone, which makes me sound like a ***** when I am talking to myself, but it works 🙂 ) and that usually lands me up in the top 5 as far as number is concerned. I feel that I have found the best method of study for me and when you get to the final it's like you study for 4-5 hours and then just knock it out.
 
This is what I do. I just found what works best for me as studying goes. Usually I study a bit each day (making sure that I could teach it to someone, which makes me sound like a ***** when I am talking to myself, but it works 🙂 ) and that usually lands me up in the top 5 as far as number is concerned. I feel that I have found the best method of study for me and when you get to the final it's like you study for 4-5 hours and then just knock it out.

Definitely. Once you feel you know the material well enough to be the one giving the lecture, you're going to kill the exam. Willingness to put in a lot of efficient study time is essential to being a top scorer, as others have mentioned (efficiency allows you enough time for many passes through the material - repetition is important!). I found my study groove in freshman year, and by senior year, I was known as Firstname "The Curve Killer" Lastname. I know it sounds made-up, but a few friends actually would scream it at me as I would walk into the room right before an exam. To get revenge, I would then kill their curve.
 
I have similar study strategy as the person above. I make sure that I can explain the concepts to myself (for biochem, genetics, etc.) reading the material also helps, but if the instructor pulls the material straight off the power point and does not include anything extra from the reading, then reading is a waste of time and concentrating on studying the power point becomes priority. I also record every lecture and listen to it usually twice before the exam. All I did in biochem is study the power point, listen to lecture recording and go over practice tests (provided by instructor) and I pulled over 94 on every test. Not the highest but it's decent. I think I read couple pages of the book on enzyme kinetics the whole semester.
 
I found my study groove in freshman year, and by senior year, I was known as Firstname "The Curve Killer" Lastname. I know it sounds made-up, but a few friends actually would scream it at me as I would walk into the room right before an exam. To get revenge, I would then kill their curve.

That. Is. Awesome. Did it work the same for you in math courses? I am going to major in Chemistry, but I am intimidated by Calculus 1&2/Differential Equations.
 
I've noticed a lot of top scorers record and listen to lectures. This actually helps quite a bit. You can pick up on clues about what will be on the exam based on what the prof emphasizes in lecture. I also have to agree with previous poster who stated that high scorers know how to study more efficiently. Overall though, I would say it is pretty random. Some students only study lecture. Some high scorers only read the text book. Whatever works for that individual.
 
I just study and do practice problems. Tons of practice problems. I also take the time to understand concepts, instead of just writing down equations word for word without actually knowing what the heck is going on.
 
That. Is. Awesome. Did it work the same for you in math courses? I am going to major in Chemistry, but I am intimidated by Calculus 1&2/Differential Equations.

With math, it was all about working through as many problems as possible, for me. Repetition over a longer period of time (no cramming!) really drills stuff into your brain. I took one of my few math courses my first semester in college, and the first exam killed me. I then figured out what was necessary for me to prepare well, and it was working lots of problems until I became good enough to tutor my classmates - which I wound up doing a lot for that particular class.
 
Get a job as a tutor at your school, and start tutoring the classes you are taking.

For professional reasons, it forces you to read ahead / keep up / do homework early.

And by the time the exam rolls around you have done every homework problem five times and can explain it three different ways, and you wonder what the big deal is.
 
As someone who consistently scores top 5 my advice is this: it really depends on the type of class you're in, for math/problem based classes it would be best to just do as many problems as possible. Literally, keep at it until you've got it down and could do the same type of problem without error. For reading/memorizing based classes just do the obvious, read the chapter before the lecture, then read the sections you are confused about after the lecture. Then finally, use flashcards to memorize ideas/concepts that you know you will have trouble with.
 
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A lot of times, these might be people who have taken the class before (as an AP or IB exam class in high school)...at least that's what I noticed in the classes I took. This was the case for me in gen chem and intro bio (I got an A on everything except a couple relatively worthless quizzes). When I took physics (I didn't take AP physics in high school) I had to work a LOT harder for my grade. Seeing the material for a second time, with things explained in a different way, really helped. I put in probably about the same amount of time studying as anyone else, but I was coming into the class already familiar with the material.
 
The one thing that they have is common is knowing how to study extremely efficiently. They are capable of learning the same amount of information as a "good" student in a third of the time, or less.

this.

really put yourself in a position to learn something well the FIRST TIME. that way, when you go back to review, it doesn't seem so overwhelming. You can focus on the material that you're struggling with as opposed to forcibly trying to go through all the material all over again.

also, always think of possible questions or find questions to test your knowledge as you're reviewing.

you don't have to sacrifice other areas of your life to be a great student!
 
A lot of times, these might be people who have taken the class before (as an AP or IB exam class in high school)...at least that's what I noticed in the classes I took. This was the case for me in gen chem and intro bio (I got an A on everything except a couple relatively worthless quizzes). When I took physics (I didn't take AP physics in high school) I had to work a LOT harder for my grade. Seeing the material for a second time, with things explained in a different way, really helped. I put in probably about the same amount of time studying as anyone else, but I was coming into the class already familiar with the material.

This pretty much. My AP classes in high school were much harder than my intro bio/chem courses, because the teachers wanted us to learn everything from the book. They would force us to read the ENTIRE textbook cover to cover and give a computer generated exam (or 2) every week. Campbell & Reece 7th Ed. ruined senior year of H.S., but was a joke in Freshman Bio.

(I graduated with a 4.0 at a relatively unknown state school where the class sizes were 20-40 students.)

Aside from the AP background for intro courses, it's mostly a matter of good note taking and study-habits. You need to understand the professor, how they emphasize certain concepts and breeze over others. Anything they write on the black/white board is fair game on an exam. The PowerPoint slides were my main study tool for the courses that had them. You get a knack for knowing whether or not reading the book will help at all on the exam. For anything math/chemistry/physics related, do the practice problems or suffer the consequences.
 
It varies by person in that category, but I would say that in my experience and that of my highest-performing colleagues as well as the med students some of the schools that I've interviewed with, we generally do a couple of things naturally:
1) We learn it in-class and rarely need to study outside of class (at the UG level); and
2) We synthesize things on the spot instead of memorizing (i.e., mostly or all critical thinking/reasoning our way through things and rarely trying to remember "the answer")

I would also say that I am very good at finding connections and "integrating" my knowledge base. (This is a part of "synthesizing" of course.) For example, when I took biochem, I thought it was about 90% review and, maybe, 10% new material (at most). According to the professor, it's about 80% new material and 20% review. While I get why he feels so much of it is new material, to me things like Michaelis-Mentin kinetics aren't "new" in biochem; they simple were given an actual name in that class. I just understood it in gen bio under the more general term "enzyme kinetics" and the details were fairly intuitive. Likewise, I never took pchem as I was never a chem major (stopped at biochem, so nothing even close to pchem), but I have successfully tutored pchem students when no one who'd actually taken the course was around. While I don't know the subject area exactly, I can reason my way through those problems if you give me a book and a couple of minutes to process what the new equations and concepts mean. (It's all based on gen chem concepts, anyway... with lots of exceptions and finer points, of course.)

As for how to develop those skills, which I would guess is really your underlying question... I have no idea. I suppose you could practice applying your knowledge from one class to another but that might turn catastrophic if you apply things wrong.... I guess one thing I would say is to not be afraid of being wrong and when in doubt, assume. For example, if you have a question asking you which is higher energy -- red or blue -- you probably cannot do this intuitively (unless you already know the answer). However, if I asked you which is a higher energy sound wave -- a high or low pitched one -- you could probably answer that. (If not, which one hurts more? Does a higher or lower energy punch in the shoulder hurt more? Now assuming these are equivalent in terms of pain, which sound is going to hurt more? Higher energy/higher pitch, of course.) So if sound hurts more at a higher pitch/frequency and higher frequency means shorter wavelength, then what would we expect from light? (As I said, assume they are equivalent until told otherwise. This does not always work, but in many cases, such as this one, assumptions like this can actually work quite nicely.) Ultimately, since the blue light is a shorter wavelength (higher frequency), it is higher energy.
 
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I scored the highest on 2/3 exams in biology, one chemistry exam, and one calc exams. (class size ~ 200 for chem and bio and 80 for calc).

For each bio and chem exam, I usually study about 4-5 hours total for each exam, usually starting two days before the exam. What I find to be the most effective strategy is to read the book chapters first, then read my own notes, and then read someone else's notes. Reading someone else's notes in addition to your own is crucial. Also, do not highlight material or listen to music while you study.

For calculus, I looked over the notes and tried to link the calculus concepts to real life situations that I could think of. I also did about 2 - 3 practice exams before the test.

Also, If you have to make a decision to stay up vs.study, study. Pull an all nighter if you have a test before 10 AM, and sleep for two-three hours if you have a test after 1 PM. Do not drink coffee while studying.


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This is what works for me. It might not work for you. Just try it out and see.

Good luck surviving med school. I would recommend others to stay from such study habits.
 
Nothing wrong with all nighters for morning test. If you stay up till 3 or 4 am normally why sleep when the test is at 8am?

It might work for some but definitely not for everyone. I think that even 4-5 hours of sleep is enough to feel rejuvenated. I remember walking into tests after pulling all nighters my freshman year and it didn't turn out well at all. I did it again for my first Histology exam in the SMP program and it turned out to be an epic fail. I was borderline passing out during the exams and couldn't focus at all. I can't imagine many succeeding while mixing procrastination with all nighters (sleep deprivation) but hey to each their own.
 
Most likely they have deep interest in the subject matter, and know lot of it even before class begins. They may be doing not that well in the subjects where they are not deeply interested. That was the case with me.
 
As for how to develop those skills, which I would guess is really your underlying question... I have no idea. I suppose you could practice applying your knowledge from one class to another but that might turn catastrophic if you apply things wrong.... I guess one thing I would say is to not be afraid of being wrong and when in doubt, assume. For example, if you have a question asking you which is higher energy -- red or blue -- you probably cannot do this intuitively (unless you already know the answer). However, if I asked you which is a higher energy sound wave -- a high or low pitched one -- you could probably answer that. (If not, which one hurts more? Does a higher or lower energy punch in the shoulder hurt more? Now assuming these are equivalent in terms of pain, which sound is going to hurt more? Higher energy/higher pitch, of course.) So if sound hurts more at a higher pitch/frequency and higher frequency means shorter wavelength, then what would we expect from light? (As I said, assume they are equivalent until told otherwise. This does not always work, but in many cases, such as this one, assumptions like this can actually work quite nicely.) Ultimately, since the blue light is a shorter wavelength (higher frequency), it is higher energy.

I understand the point you are trying to make about synthesizing information and intuiting an answer. That's great if it works for you, but I couldn't really follow what you were saying.

I use a mnemonic to approach the problem of whether red or blue photons have higher energy. Maybe it's not novel, but I've never heard it used before. You probably remember that there is a relationship between frequency and energy (E=hv). I usually start with my mnemonic that "red (traffic) lights cause you to slow down", which means to me that red light has the lower frequency (v). I remember that red has a lower frequency than blue because the spectrum increases according to ROYGBIV. Then, it's just a matter of understanding the proportional relationship to get that red light of a lower frequency has lower energy.
 
This. I suspect that 90% of the high scorers actually get plenty of sleep.

sleep is important for forming new long term memories. without it anything you learn is stored in short term and likely to be forgotten/messed up
 
Also the people that do well probably aren't taken a bunch of classes at once. They probably have a decent load but they're not killing themselves.
 
Some people do have the "gift." I know a guy currently with a true photographic memory who rocks absolutely everything. Its unbelievable.

I could study every day and night and still get beat by him.
 
This. I suspect that 90% of the high scorers actually get plenty of sleep.

I got As in all of these big classes and I get at least 8-9 hours of sleep every night. 😛

As to the OPs question, I personally study wayyyy in advance of a test. I'm not someone that can cram for two hours and do awesome so I study a little at a time two or three weeks before the test and it's worked out well for me. I don't know if I study more than other bio majors, but I know my friends joke about seeing me doing anything but studying/homework during the day so it's a safe bet the high scorers are putting in a lot of work.
 
With math, it was all about working through as many problems as possible, for me. Repetition over a longer period of time (no cramming!) really drills stuff into your brain. I took one of my few math courses my first semester in college, and the first exam killed me. I then figured out what was necessary for me to prepare well, and it was working lots of problems until I became good enough to tutor my classmates - which I wound up doing a lot for that particular class.

For math, this worked like a charm. Not only was I able to master the concepts more easily, but by doing more problems, you're ready for whatever comes your way on the test; most problems on tests were ones I'd seen before.

This served me incredibly well in calculus I and II since those courses are ones where professors will try to throw curveballs.

Also the people that do well probably aren't taken a bunch of classes at once. They probably have a decent load but they're not killing themselves.

Not necessarily. My best semester (3.9) was the semester I was taking Bio, orgo, and stats all at the same time. Some people work better under pressure, and some people don't.
 
Not necessarily. My best semester (3.9) was the semester I was taking Bio, orgo, and stats all at the same time. Some people work better under pressure, and some people don't.

You're probably right. Also, as evidenced by your high GPA, you could handle those classes - it was a decent load for you, not a killing yourself load.

Killing yourself class loads = bad grades. Reasonable loads + sleep + other factors = highest scores in the class.
 
I generally did problems, almost every one at the end of the chapters, without reading the text. Text you can discover by your self along the way you try to solve the problems. This only works for natural sciences, engineering and math. History, law etc which are manufactured by man it won't work; you have to just read and remember.
 
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You're probably right. Also, as evidenced by your high GPA, you could handle those classes - it was a decent load for you, not a killing yourself load.

Killing yourself class loads = bad grades. Reasonable loads + sleep + other factors = highest scores in the class.

It was pretty killer. At my school, lab and lecture are separate courses. So 3 midterms each for bio, bio lab, orgo, orgo lab, and stats. Honestly, I just work best when I'm extremely busy, and I know many other people like me. I would wake up at 6 am and do 3 hours of reading every morning BEFORE class, and that was the only way to keep up.
 
Definitely. Once you feel you know the material well enough to be the one giving the lecture, you're going to kill the exam. Willingness to put in a lot of efficient study time is essential to being a top scorer, as others have mentioned (efficiency allows you enough time for many passes through the material - repetition is important!). I found my study groove in freshman year, and by senior year, I was known as Firstname "The Curve Killer" Lastname. I know it sounds made-up, but a few friends actually would scream it at me as I would walk into the room right before an exam. To get revenge, I would then kill their curve.

Oh yeah, I had experience with this in my Bio 2 class.I remember the average for the first test was a 65%; killed the curve by getting a 99.
 
I personally don't know people like this, but you guys might. I do well enough in classes, but not near the top. Do people who consistently post the highest scores in a biology class of 200+ people study much harder than everyone else? Do they sacrifice extracurricular or other commitments? I don't understand what it takes to push into that highest level when everybody else is supposedly studying a pretty good amount.

I'm sure there's nothing universal, but any trends?

I think one of the most effective study habits is to always ask "why?" when you're covering material. Not only will this add significant depth to the material you're covering, but you won't have to worry as much about forgetting small details because you'll always be able to resynthesize the information from a conceptual angle.

It doesn't always work (some things are just sheer memorization), but by-and-large, I found myself studying less and scoring higher than my peers when I took this approach.
 
I'm a second semester sophomore with a 3.9 GPA. I should add that I get 8-9 hours of sleep each night, hang out with my friends/watch TV at least 2 hours a day, go out 1-2X every weekend, and have time for 10 hours of volunteering each week, in addition to my current 14 credit hours. I wouldn't say I'm like a curve killer, but I generally do well enough to comfortably make an A/A-.


I think the key is keeping up with the work. If you are consistently spending a few hours a week reviewing all the material for your classes as it is taught, you shouldn't be too stressed or need to put in that much extra effort come exam time.
It's all about balance and planning 🙂
 
I understand the point you are trying to make about synthesizing information and intuiting an answer. That's great if it works for you, but I couldn't really follow what you were saying.

I use a mnemonic to approach the problem of whether red or blue photons have higher energy. Maybe it's not novel, but I've never heard it used before. You probably remember that there is a relationship between frequency and energy (E=hv). I usually start with my mnemonic that "red (traffic) lights cause you to slow down", which means to me that red light has the lower frequency (v). I remember that red has a lower frequency than blue because the spectrum increases according to ROYGBIV. Then, it's just a matter of understanding the proportional relationship to get that red light of a lower frequency has lower energy.

It's a matter of finding similar concepts and applying what you know about one to the other. By where you bolder, I wonder if you're paying attention to the wrong part of what I said. The key is the equivalence of concepts of waves that apply to both light and sound.
 
I agree with whoever said that the ability to lecture the material is a good indicator of how you will do on the exam. When I get together with some of my study buddies, I usually have studied a lot more than they have. I am usually able to lecture them or explain concepts. At that point, I know that I'm good.




Also, I study. And then I study. Then I study more. and more and more and more and more. Probably more hours for higher classes.


Also waking up an early to study if you have an exam in the AM does wonders
 
In my school's weedout classes (usually 600+ students), the top scorers were usually the ones who studied all the time and could remember something from a caption on page 147 of our textbook. For other classes, it was usually the people who understood the material better in a shorter period of time in any given academic area (for instance, me in math/physics courses--just makes sense as soon as I see it for just about any material in those areas).
 
It might work for some but definitely not for everyone. I think that even 4-5 hours of sleep is enough to feel rejuvenated. I remember walking into tests after pulling all nighters my freshman year and it didn't turn out well at all. I did it again for my first Histology exam in the SMP program and it turned out to be an epic fail. I was borderline passing out during the exams and couldn't focus at all. I can't imagine many succeeding while mixing procrastination with all nighters (sleep deprivation) but hey to each their own.

Right, I mean if you are use to going to sleep at 11pm...staying up till 9am is going to kill you for the test. But if you are a night owl to begin with...staying up a little later is no big deal. Personally every med school test is an all nighter for me, but I normally stay up till 4am, so its kinda silly for me not to just drink a cup of coffee, stay up late, and then go to bed when the test is over.
 
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