What do DO schools consider an understanding of osteopathic medicine?

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I read in the AT Still Kirksville website that many applicants do not demonstrate a true understanding of osteopathic medicine. What kind of things are they looking for in the PS, interview, secondaries, etc?
 
I read in the AT Still Kirksville website that many applicants do not demonstrate a true understanding of osteopathic medicine. What kind of things are they looking for in the PS, interview, secondaries, etc?

In the interview you are given a 100 question multiple choice exam followed by essay question portion and a Lightning Round of rapid fire question about the History fo AT Still and the founding of osteopathic medicine. Interviewees that score below 95% are automatically rejected.

just kidding.... I imagine they are just looking for something like shadowing experience, maybe a letter from a DO. You should be familiar with the general philosophy...I'd be aware of the fundamental difference between MD and DO (ie if you are asked if you are excietd about OMM and you respond "OM what?" then there is likely going to be a problem).

Another note, if you are applying to the school named after the founder of the profession....you better know your ish.
 
Before my first DO interview, I read The DOs: Osteopathic Medicine in America by Norman Gevits. It was a quick read and very informative.

I chose to read this because, like you, I didn't even know what there was to know. After I read the book I had a pretty good understanding of what Osteopathic medicine is and what it is not, and I felt much more confident about fielding interview questions.
 
Good question. When I was first exploring osteopathic medicine, I had a similar question and started here: http://www.aacom.org/about/osteomed/Pages/default.aspx

I think the big thing about the philosophy that seems to be stressed is "structure influences function". I think a lot of people tend to use the terms "holistic" or "mind-body" or the most cliche "DOs look at the whole body" and I think every good doctor, whether MD or DO, should be thinking about those terms anyways. So you'll find a lot of current students or DOs in the industry referring to those terms as crap but I think that something that the DO philosophy does stress this idea that if one area is affected by a disease or ailment, other areas may be affected too. Also, the philosophy seems to stress heavily that community and lifestyle are imperative to treatment and/or the future health of the patient. Finally, the unique aspect of osteopathic medicine is OMM or the hands on, manipulation methods of therapy and treatment. While not all DOs live by and actively practice OMM, there are a few areas of medicine (primary and OB/GYN) where I have seen DOs using it and finding it most beneficial.

I hope some of this helps!
 
My PS is all about prevention. Would it be enough if I said osteopathic medicine fits into my philosophy due to its focus on prevention and primary care? Thanks.
 
My PS is all about prevention. Would it be enough if I said osteopathic medicine fits into my philosophy due to its focus on prevention and primary care? Thanks.

I think that would work out well since one of the primary facets of the philsophy includes that, however, I don't think you need to spend a tremendous amount of time focusing on osteopathic medicine itself as much as you do talking about how you fit into medicine. Essentially you are applying to a medical school. I think my PS had 1-2 sentences about osteopathic medicine specifically but every school does differ and some school may want you to discuss it more in depth than another.
 
Does osteopathic medicine really emphasize preventive medicine, which by the way is completely different than primary care/family practice? They might say they do (although I havent read it anywhere), but I havent really seen any evidence to support that. There is only one preventive medicine DO residency.....one. Its at NSU.

The medical profession as a whole does a sh*tty job of prevention, its not just a DO thing. But ive never heard of anyone being interested in osteopathic medicine for their "emphasis on preventive medicine."
 
Does osteopathic medicine really emphasize preventive medicine, which by the way is completely different than primary care/family practice? They might say they do (although I havent read it anywhere), but I havent really seen any evidence to support that. There is only one preventive medicine DO residency.....one. Its at NSU.

The medical profession as a whole does a sh*tty job of prevention, its not just a DO thing. But ive never heard of anyone being interested in osteopathic medicine for their "emphasis on preventive medicine."

I think their objectives imply/state an emphasis on patient education, which is how you get to prevention. If people don't know what to prevent or how, they can't be expected to do so.
 
I think their objectives imply/state an emphasis on patient education, which is how you get to prevention. If people don't know what to prevent or how, they can't be expected to do so.

meh....i guess. i still think the medical profession as a whole does a pretty poor job of patient education. unless by patient education you mean unnecessary drug advertisements that tell people to ask their doctors about meds they probably dont need. We do a pretty good job at educating the population about that.
 
meh....i guess. i still think the medical profession as a whole does a pretty poor job of patient education. unless by patient education you mean unnecessary drug advertisements that tell people to ask their doctors about meds they probably dont need. We do a pretty good job at educating the population about that.

I agree with both statements, wholeheartedly. We spend way too much money on treatment, way too little on prevention, and the drug companies should not be allowed to expand the scope of their drugs by pushing them onto customers...err patients.

Seems like we're going off topic and are likely to continue to do so. OP there are many ways the DO philosophy seems to relate to your goals. Read up a little more. You'll be fine. 👍
 
I don't mean to hijack this thread either, but in response to ryserr and chocolate bear, I totally agree. I just recently read this great book that goes pretty in-depth into the whole thing too...I should post this in the book thread (I will, too), but this one is a real eye-opener:

The Truth About Drug Companies, by Marcia Angell, MD


http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375508465
 
So do I have to mention osteopathic medicine in my statement? I think I demonstrate the philosophy without saying it.
 
I don't mean to hijack this thread either, but in response to ryserr and chocolate bear, I totally agree. I just recently read this great book that goes pretty in-depth into the whole thing too...I should post this in the book thread (I will, too), but this one is a real eye-opener:

The Truth About Drug Companies, by Marcia Angell, MD


http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375508465

Way to contribute to the hijacking. Geez...we tried to move on!

I read that book for my course Diet, Disease and Exercise. It was the first one we read for the semester. I wrote a little synopsis about it for this website I work for. If any one wants to read my summary, check it out! It is a very informative book and i recommend the read.

http://simplyfit.com/Column/NColumn142008.php

Atals - no you do not have to mention it in your statement. Many people do not (mine included). You will be fine.
 
And it would not be a detriment? Sorry for asking so many questions. This is the last thing I have to do before submission.

Many people save their "osteopathic ammo" for the secondaries and don't touch on DO stuff in the PS, at all. Many of these people are current and future med students. 😉
 
And it would not be a detriment? Sorry for asking so many questions. This is the last thing I have to do before submission.

No, you'll be fine. No school will reject you b/c you didn't use the words "osteopathic medicine" in your PS. If you are qaulified, you will be accepted. dont sweat it.
 
Its a trick question. If you've ever worked alongside both MD's and DO's, it is very easy to answer. If you have not, you are likely to be tricked into talking about a bunch of whole-person ****.

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Probably that there is no appreciable difference.
Agreed, however this seems like it could cause some bumps in the road when being evaluated based on your secondary.

VCOM specifically states that osteopathic and allopathic med are parallel and claims there are only a few differences; they don't want the hooplah, I suppose.
 
It depends on the specialty. For example, in emergency medicine, where I work, DO's and MD's are indistinguishable. I've met one DO resident who says that she will occasionally bust out the OMM for an ED pt, but it is rare. The rest say they just don't have time for it.

In other specialties, it might be a different story.

Keep in mind the original purpose of the DO: to be the versatile, all-encompassing primary care physician. The person you could go to for pretty much anything. You might get treated with meds, and you might get an OMM treatment. Or you might get both. The key is versatility.

These days, DO's have branched out to do everything else too, but the option of utilizing the versatility and extra skills in your practice may still be there.

As for the rest, yeah there are a lot of people who apply because they are unsure of their MD applications. There are also people who apply because they might feel they identify with the philosophy that the AOA talks about. In the end, this may not make them different doctors, but it does attract a somewhat different mindset, not necessarily always related to lower admissions numbers. There are also people, such as myself, who have a legitimate interest in manual therapy. That is not to say that I will definitely use it in my practice. Depending on what I go into, it may or may not be practical. However, I am certainly interested in learning it. I used to work in strength and conditioning, and I've used some manual therapy on my athletes before, so I am certainly curious about what all OMM could be applicable to.

That is how I'd approach it. Mostly because its the truth, and it demonstrates a functional understanding of osteopathic medicine.

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I don't mean to hijack this thread either, but in response to ryserr and chocolate bear, I totally agree. I just recently read this great book that goes pretty in-depth into the whole thing too...I should post this in the book thread (I will, too), but this one is a real eye-opener:

The Truth About Drug Companies, by Marcia Angell, MD


http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-Drug-Companies-Deceive/dp/0375508465

Another excellent reference in this genre is John Abramson, MD, a Harvard Med clinical faculty member who actually quit his family practice to pursue full-time review of drug research. He wrote "Overdosed America", which brings to focus just how much marketing and economics influences medicine today, unfortunately. He hammers some of the top medical journals for publishing questionable and misleading research (for money) and details how some of our most popular drugs are grounded in less-than-stellar evidence. Google him. He provides some real perspective.
 
...There are also people, such as myself, who have a legitimate interest in manual therapy...I am certainly interested in learning it. I used to work in strength and conditioning, and I've used some manual therapy on my athletes before, so I am certainly curious about what all OMM could be applicable to.

It's refreshing to see an osteopathic applicant who is actually legitimately interested in OMM. Nice work. 👍
 
It's refreshing to see an osteopathic applicant who is actually legitimately interested in OMM. Nice work. 👍
The interest in OMM is there for me. I am going to apply MD as well, but if given the choice I will heavily favor a DO school due to my interest in manipulation. It comes down to the school, of course, but manipulation (in my eyes) has a lot of legitimacy.
 
The interest in OMM is there for me. I am going to apply MD as well, but if given the choice I will heavily favor a DO school due to my interest in manipulation. It comes down to the school, of course, but manipulation (in my eyes) has a lot of legitimacy.

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