What do ER docs do if they want to leave the ER?

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like im wondering, is there a private practice option? or something?

like it goes school->residency->work in an ER-> what happens after, are there any moonlighting options or wwhat?
 
I'd assume those are the guys that go on to open up those private emergency doc-in-a-box clinics, like the ones down the shore.
 
Go back to residency, just like all those FP docs who decide they want to do EM 😉.
 
What do surgeons do if they want to leave surgery? What do OB/Gyns do when they leave the OB/Gyn clinc/OR?


No specliatly has many options outside their particular place.


I would say when you leave you retire, play golf, travel, or do whatever else it is you want to do...
 
ComicBookHero20 said:
like im wondering, is there a private practice option? or something?

like it goes school->residency->work in an ER-> what happens after, are there any moonlighting options or wwhat?
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I think this is a good question. Sure, you could just cut down on shifts worked, but those shifts may be very busy/stressful. Many docs can just fade by cutting down on office hours/case load. It's hard to control that in EM. I have seen a few move to small towns with lower census numbers, but you can still get busy in a small town- just maybe not as often. There are fellowships that may allow flexibility. I've heard of those with sports med. can do office work and can choose to work in the ED or not. Anyone else to options to add?
 
I dunno about you guys, but I always try to leave through the ambulance bay.
 
FoughtFyr said:
Yeah, but not everyone is lookin' to flirt with the paramedics! 😀

😍 ya!

- H
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Dang! You caught...I mean, I just go out that way to avoid the patient's in the waiting area who get all pissy when they see "that doctor walkin' out the door." (Always tempted to yell back, "I'm not a doctor and the only thing I'll possibly do is make your visit today slower!")
 
ComicBookHero20 said:
like im wondering, is there a private practice option? or something?

like it goes school->residency->work in an ER-> what happens after, are there any moonlighting options or what?
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-Urgent Care Clinic
-Cruise Ship Medicine
-ED Administration
-EMS Medical Direction/Administration
-Teaching
-Sports Medicine/Team Physician (can do fellowship, but not required)
-Tactical Medicine
-International Medicine
-Toxicology
-Research

http://www.saem.org/SAEMDNN/Default.aspx?tabid=382
 
MavsFan08 said:
-Urgent Care Clinic
-Cruise Ship Medicine
-ED Administration
-EMS Medical Direction/Administration
-Teaching
-Sports Medicine/Team Physician (can do fellowship, but not required)
-Tactical Medicine
-International Medicine
-Toxicology
-Research

http://www.saem.org/SAEMDNN/Default.aspx?tabid=382
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Hang on there! As much as I love these never ending burn out threads I should point out a flaw with some of these ideas.

For many of the above you can make some supplementary income but they don't usually provide anywhere near full time EP income. Cruise ship, Admin, EMS, Sports, Tactical, tox.

Research and especially teaching involve working in the ED. The pace may be different but you're still in the pit. Ask your attendings next time you're working a shift with them in the pit.

I loudly disagree with the supposition that a res trained EP can go work in internal medicine (or FP for that matter) unless you go and retrain. #1 we assert they shouldn't work in EDs without training, we must recognize that we shouldn't go work in a clinic without training. I was never taught how to manage diabetes, HTN, cholesterol, etc. long term.
 
docB said:
I loudly disagree with the supposition that a res trained EP can go work in internal medicine (or FP for that matter) unless you go and retrain. #1 we assert they shouldn't work in EDs without training, we must recognize that we shouldn't go work in a clinic without training. I was never taught how to manage diabetes, HTN, cholesterol, etc. long term.
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😎👍

Nothing's ever as easy as it looks. 😉
 
docB said:
Hang on there! As much as I love these never ending burn out threads I should point out a flaw with some of these ideas.

For many of the above you can make some supplementary income but they don't usually provide anywhere near full time EP income. Cruise ship, Admin, EMS, Sports, Tactical, tox.

Research and especially teaching involve working in the ED. The pace may be different but you're still in the pit. Ask your attendings next time you're working a shift with them in the pit.

I loudly disagree with the supposition that a res trained EP can go work in internal medicine (or FP for that matter) unless you go and retrain. #1 we assert they shouldn't work in EDs without training, we must recognize that we shouldn't go work in a clinic without training. I was never taught how to manage diabetes, HTN, cholesterol, etc. long term.
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Um, he wrote interNATIONAL medicine. Not internal medicine.... just for the record.
 
ditch doctor said:
Um, he wrote interNATIONAL medicine. Not internal medicine.... just for the record.
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I stand corrected. Like most EPs I just look at the first 2 letters and guess at the rest. What is "international medicine?" Is it something you make a living doing or is it volunteer?
 
I've heard the payor mix in Nicaragua is awesome
 
docB said:
I stand corrected. Like most EPs I just look at the first 2 letters and guess at the rest. What is "international medicine?" Is it something you make a living doing or is it volunteer?
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All of the "international medicine" gigs I've ever seen were volunteer.
 
Here's one scenario.

1) Stop spending your time providing care to any patient with any condition at any time, regardless of their ability to pay.

2) Get an MBA

3) Get a medical director job with a health plan.

4) Start spending your time denying care to all patients with any condition at any time, regardless of their ability to pay.

5) Enjoy enourmous salaries from the money you 'save'.

Take care,
Jeff
 
Jeff698 said:
Here's one scenario.

1) Stop spending your time providing care to any patient with any condition at any time, regardless of their ability to pay.

2) Get an MBA

3) Get a medical director job with a health plan.

4) Start spending your time denying care to all patients with any condition at any time, regardless of their ability to pay.

5) Enjoy enourmous salaries from the money you 'save'.

Take care,
Jeff
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That should be an add in the back of anals, I wonder how many response you would get. :laugh:
 
KentW said:
Now, now...it's not nice to make someone the butt of a joke. 😉
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Awwwwwwww. :corny:


Sorry, just looking for a reason to use one of the new emoticons (corny...get it?).

Take care,
Jeff
 
That joke stinks.

With a real zinger, you could have wrecked 'em.
 
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