What do I need on Step 2 CK?

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I got a 217 on Step 1. I want to be in NYC for my pediatrics residency. I would like to have some choice in my residency location. Right now I have no research publications or presentations. I will be taking Step 2 CK at the end of my 3rd year so my questions are...

What score should I aim for on Step 2 CK to give me a good chance at matching into a top 3 Pediatrics residency in NYC? Should I focus on research at all or just Step 2?
 
217 is pretty low... do you have anything at all on your application, even if not research? A top program may be out of reach regardless of score - but you could probably match a decent peds residency in ny if you show a good improvement. I’d aim for at least a 240 - charting the outcomes says 243 is the mean step 2 ck for matched peds applicants.
 
I got a 217 on Step 1. I want to be in NYC for my pediatrics residency. I would like to have some choice in my residency location. Right now I have no research publications or presentations. I will be taking Step 2 CK at the end of my 3rd year so my questions are...

What score should I aim for on Step 2 CK to give me a good chance at matching into a top 3 Pediatrics residency in NYC? Should I focus on research at all or just Step 2?

To be honest, with that step score and no research, it would be a stretch to expect to get into in a top THREE peds residency. You can certainly still match peds though

Refer here: 2018 Match Outcomes
 
217 is pretty low... do you have anything at all on your application, even if not research? A top program may be out of reach regardless of score - but you could probably match a decent peds residency in ny if you show a good improvement. I’d aim for at least a 240 - charting the outcomes says 243 is the mean step 2 ck for matched peds applicants.

To be honest, with that step score and no research, it would be a stretch to expect to get into in a top THREE peds residency. You can certainly still match peds though

Refer here: 2018 Match Outcomes

Thank you for the responses! I was wondering then, what is a reasonable expectation. Can I get to a top 10? If so, what Step 2 score would help with that?
 
Thank you for the responses! I was wondering then, what is a reasonable expectation. Can I get to a top 10? If so, what Step 2 score would help with that?

I don't know that there's a step 2 score high enough to get you in alone. It's more than just Step. You need to have a stellar application to get into a top program. That includes step, strong academic standing, research, extracurriculars, and professional orgs (AOA, gold humanism, etc). Not to say that you need all of these but you need have checked at least some of these boxes.

As it stands now, you'd be fighting a very steep uphill battle. You're a quarter of the way through 3rd year with no realistic amount of time to start a new project given clinicals and you're applying in less than a year. Top programs are something you prep for since day 1, intentionally or unintentionally.

The best you can do at this point is kill clinicals and step 2 and get very strong letters of rec from head honchos. Also, start looking into applying for aways in January/February to places that you're interested - doesn't guarantee you'll get the away but if you can secure a decent externship, you can at least show them that you're clinically sound. The caveat here is that you need to really shine when you go. If you know you're not the strongest student then apply to 2nd and 3rd tier programs where you can still get a strong letter.

Finally, there's a new tool that the AAMC just published: Residency Explorer - Plug in your stats and experiences so far and it will show you how you compare against the majority of programs' applicants. It will give you a better idea of where you fall in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Thank you for the responses! I was wondering then, what is a reasonable expectation. Can I get to a top 10? If so, what Step 2 score would help with that?

As @teeayejay said - your step 1 score isn’t the only thing holding you back; it sounds like you have a mediocre app otherwise as well. Top residencies in any field are going to be looking for top applicants, who will have research/volunteering/etc. in addition to top board scores. You could try an away at a program or two in the hopes of increasing your chances there, but your app still needs to be competitive.
 
The score itself isn't as important as much as the improvement, that being said going from 217 to 240s is very doable, just work smart and diligently and you will get there.
 
Are you trying to get into a top 10 peds residency in NYC? Or a top 10 peds residency in the whole country? It is probably not that hard to get into a top 10 peds residency in NYC since NYC has so many programs.
 
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