What do you call the Doc that deal with Sports Related Injury

[deleted421268]

Just curious, what do you call them??? Also what is the differences between a PMR Doc, Ortho Surgeon, and non surgical sports medicine physician??. Which one of these Docs say for example travel with teams and accompanies football teams when they have a game say at any level like high school. What does it take to become any of these???

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[N2Medicine]

Just curious, what do you call them??? Also what is the differences between a PMR Doc, Ortho Surgeon, and non surgical sports medicine physician??. Which one of these Docs say for example travel with teams and accompanies football teams when they have a game say at any level like high school. What does it take to become any of these???

Check out this website I just found:

http://nflps.org/team-physicians.php

It is a website for NFL Physicians. That page has the names of the physicians for each team. If you click on one, it will show you what certifications they have and what their specialty is. That should help you out a little bit.

As for your other questions, they would be best answered by a medical student or a resident.


EDIT:

Apparently a fellowship in American Sports Medicine is quite popular for NFL physicians.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Just curious, what do you call them??? Also what is the differences between a PMR Doc, Ortho Surgeon, and non surgical sports medicine physician??. Which one of these Docs say for example travel with teams and accompanies football teams when they have a game say at any level like high school. What does it take to become any of these???

Sports medicine physician. Also, IDK of any high schools, or even colleges, that have a physician that goes to the games except as a volunteer. There is often some kind of EMT around, or a volunteer doc.

PMR is a more rehabilitation related field. Ortho fixes the breaks and tears and then they go to PMR. They encompass most of the "sports medicine" physicians that I know of except for a couple neurologists and internists.

 

[CeeEstee0]

I have also heard/read about doctors doing a fellowship in Sports Medicine, after completing a residency in IM, FM, or EM.

http://www.amssm.org/FellowshipsPositions.html

This is a list I found with a quick google search. Good luck!

 

[deleted421268]

Check out this website I just found:

http://nflps.org/team-physicians.php

It is a website for NFL Physicians. That page has the names of the physicians for each team. If you click on one, it will show you what certifications they have and what their specialty is. That should help you out a little bit.

As for your other questions, they would be best answered by a medical student or a resident.


EDIT:

Apparently a fellowship in American Sports Medicine is quite popular for NFL physicians.

Do all these team physicians work part time with the team or is this full time??? What route is the best to land this type of job or is ideal out of all the different scenarios.

 

[mmmcdowe]

Do all these team physicians work part time with the team or is this full time??? What route is the best to land this type of job or is ideal out of all the different scenarios.

It is often a part time job and often not paid outside of the standard fees for services rendered, though I believe the NFL has several full time doctors not specific to a single team. Typically, you get their business and you get to say you're the team doc for a professional sports team (which is of course good for your business) and maybe a few season tickets or something, but typically a single sports team isn't enough patients to occupy a physicians time. This is most true with orthopedic surgeons, which is where my sports med experiences have been, but I guess I could see it being less true for those who are more focused on rehabilitation stuff.

The best route to such a job is to be a top sports medicine physician at a top hospital with nearby professional teams. Oh, and be really into sports. I don't mean to pop your bubble, but realize that that only a tiny fraction of sports medicine docs are affiliated with the pro ball teams. It's a goal to strive for, but I wouldn't go into it if you wouldn't be happy doing "regular old sports med"

 

[PTPoeny]

D-I schools will often have an athletic department doctor, not a team doctor. These doctors are FM trained with sports med fellowships because they deal with a lot more than just the sports related injuries. They have to manage all of the student athletes meds to ensure they meet doping requirements.

Orthopods do surgery. PM&R is all about various modalities of therapy. Sports med docs are fellowship trained after FM, IM, EM, PM&R or Peds.

 

[deleted421268]

D-I schools will often have an athletic department doctor, not a team doctor. These doctors are FM trained with sports med fellowships because they deal with a lot more than just the sports related injuries. They have to manage all of the student athletes meds to ensure they meet doping requirements.

Orthopods do surgery. PM&R is all about various modalities of therapy. Sports med docs are fellowship trained after FM, IM, EM, PM&R or Peds.

How much do these Docs earn that work for D-1 school teams???

 

[I'm No Superman]

How much do these Docs earn that work for D-1 school teams???

Is that important?

😉

My neighbor does this however, and makes 1,000,000+

 

[deleted421268]

Sports med docs are fellowship trained after FM, IM, EM, PM&R or Peds.

So if one were to take sports medicine specilization in Peds, they would be working with children athletes/injuries, vs in IM Adult athletes/injuries. What are the salaries and work hours of sports Med fellowship in FM, IM, and Peds???

 

[LuckyMD2b]

Just curious, what do you call them??? Also what is the differences between a PMR Doc, Ortho Surgeon, and non surgical sports medicine physician??. Which one of these Docs say for example travel with teams and accompanies football teams when they have a game say at any level like high school. What does it take to become any of these???

The main difference between orthopedic sports medicine and primary care sports medicine is the ability to perform surgery.

Primary care sports specialists may provide side line coverage at the high school or college level, but at Division I and professional level the doctors on the sideline are orthopedic surgeons.

Most sports docs do not spend the majority of their time covering athletic events. And a small minority are covering professional teams. Orthopedic sports specialists are primarily performing arthroscopic surgery of the knee and shoulder: ACL reconstruction, meniscal injuries, shoulder instability surgery and rotator cuff repairs; they may perform general orthopedic procedures as well. Primary care sports medicine is mainly an office based specialty treating non operative musculoskeletal problems, performing joint injections, prescribing physical therapy, and referring patients who need surgery to their orthopedic partners.

Hope this helps

 

[deleted421268]

The main difference between orthopedic sports medicine and primary care sports medicine is the ability to perform surgery.

Primary care sports specialists may provide side line coverage at the high school or college level, but at Division I and professional level the doctors on the sideline are orthopedic surgeons.

Most sports docs do not spend the majority of their time covering athletic events. And a small minority are covering professional teams. Orthopedic sports specialists are primarily performing arthroscopic surgery of the knee and shoulder: ACL reconstruction, meniscal injuries, shoulder instability surgery and rotator cuff repairs; they may perform general orthopedic procedures as well. Primary care sports medicine is mainly an office based specialty treating non operative musculoskeletal problems, performing joint injections, prescribing physical therapy, and referring patients who need surgery to their orthopedic partners.

Hope this helps

Thanks this helps, what are the Pros and Cons of being primary care sports physician vs pros and cons of Orthopedic Surgeon???

 

[AgDoc84]

From my personal opinion and experience primary sports medicine can be just as important if not more on the sideline than an orthopedic surgeon. Of course the surgeons are needed for the comprehensive treat,emt of the orthopedic injuries, but we have to keep in mind that not all sports injuries are orthopedic in nature. Especially in football or other collision type sports, there is a chance of all sorts of other injuries. I worked with a team many many years ago and had a player go down with complaint of 10/10 back pain. There were no signs of neuro problems and fingers and toes all were fine. Finally our primary doc looked him over amd decided to get him to the ER for torn ureter. For sideline it's not about comprehensive treatment to me so much as the ability to recognize and begin to stabilize any problem that comes up.

 

[PTPoeny]

The main difference between orthopedic sports medicine and primary care sports medicine is the ability to perform surgery.

Primary care sports specialists may provide side line coverage at the high school or college level, but at Division I and professional level the doctors on the sideline are orthopedic surgeons.

Most sports docs do not spend the majority of their time covering athletic events. And a small minority are covering professional teams. Orthopedic sports specialists are primarily performing arthroscopic surgery of the knee and shoulder: ACL reconstruction, meniscal injuries, shoulder instability surgery and rotator cuff repairs; they may perform general orthopedic procedures as well. Primary care sports medicine is mainly an office based specialty treating non operative musculoskeletal problems, performing joint injections, prescribing physical therapy, and referring patients who need surgery to their orthopedic partners.

Hope this helps

Your second point that most sports med docs are not with teams is completely accurate. However, I'm sorry, but an orthopod (surgeon) on the sidelines is just silly. The expertise of the orthopod is in the OR and evaluating whether or not someone needs to go to the OR. The primary care sports med docs specialize in evaluating sports injuries in a non-OR setting. The sideline is a non-OR setting; I could see an argument for the ER trained sports med doc being most useful but not an orthopod.

Besides, the department doc is also the one that is going to manage which meds someone gets for asthma or pneumonia or mono and the orthopods just aren't trained to do that sort of stuff.

 

[I'm No Superman]

However, I'm sorry, but an orthopod (surgeon) on the sidelines is just silly.

Just wanted to say that my father is an orthopod and he or one of his partners are on the sidelines of every home college football game.