What does it take to be a faculty member?

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I am actually not even in dental school yet. I start dental school in August and have been thinking about my future a lot lately.

My parents think that I may not have business acumen to succeed as a private practitioner. They suggest that I consider becoming a faculty member at a dental school in the future.

What does it take to be a faculty member? And what are some pros and cons of being one? Thanks.
 
One way is to suck up to the faculty members or don't pass the board. There was this guy from my school who couldn't pass the NERB after four tries yet is a faculty member and giving NERB review lectures. I know at other schools, non-passing students would volunteer to be a clinical instructor so that they can later advertise they taught at 'blah blah.'
 
If you don't want to worry about the business aspect, you could also consider being an associate or locum dentist, who are dentists who work for someone else.

The faculty members at our school seem to fall into a few categories:

1) Internationally trained dentists who aren't licensed outside the school-Usually have some sort of advanced training in their country of origin.
2) Retired or nearly-retired dentists who want a day off private practice to "volunteer" for $80/hr to cover the clinic floor (Same applies to nostalgic alumni who want to give back to their alma maters)
3) Dentists who need continuing education credits but don't want to spend the time or money on continuing ed courses, so they cover the clinic floor or simulation clinic one day/week
4) Academics (researchers) who have to teach as part of their faculty appointment-They have PhD's and/or specialty training, and have to split their time between research, administrative committees and teaching
5) Administrators who don't like clinical dentistry, and have to put in so many teaching hours to satisfy their appointment to faculty
6) Dentists who don't do well or hate private practice because of bad people skills or slow clinical skills-So they get stuck teaching basic classes like dental anatomy and covering the clinic floor

The general dentists who teach generally need to have about 4 years of experience before coming back to the school.

If you want to excel in a faculty position, I would suggest doing some kind of specialty or research training. You will need a more advanced academic background if you want to become a dean or high-level administrator, and will stand a better chance of getting a tenured position if you really stand out in a particular field.

Oh yes...For the last part of your question...

Pros:
-You have the opportunity to be a mentor and inspire young people
-Don't have to worry about running private practice
-Salaried position not based on productivity (research excluded)
-Researchers get to travel to "conferences" in exotic places
-You're less busy when school isn't in session
-Advancing the field through research can be exciting for certain personality types
-Being a dean is prestigious, and you have an opportunity to improve the way education works
-Once you get tenure you can do whatever you want to, and the school can't fire you

Cons:
-You don't control your salary, so pay at lower administrative levels is less than private practice
-Would likely still have to manage people below you at some point in your career
-You would still need business skills to have a high-up administrative position in the clinic
-School politics and administration can be very frustrating and degrading
-You take abuse from your superiors, coworkers who have different opinions on treatment plans, students who don't like their marks, and patients who don't like their students
-Studying topics like dental anatomy and occlusion is dead boring...Teaching them would probably be even worse
 
We have folks who
7) Like research and like teaching.

That's the best reason to go into academics.

If you don't want to worry about the business aspect, you could also consider being an associate or locum dentist, who are dentists who work for someone else.

The faculty members at our school seem to fall into a few categories:

1) Internationally trained dentists who aren't licensed outside the school-Usually have some sort of advanced training in their country of origin.
2) Retired or nearly-retired dentists who want a day off private practice to "volunteer" for $80/hr to cover the clinic floor (Same applies to nostalgic alumni who want to give back to their alma maters)
3) Dentists who need continuing education credits but don't want to spend the time or money on continuing ed courses, so they cover the clinic floor or simulation clinic one day/week
4) Academics (researchers) who have to teach as part of their faculty appointment-They have PhD's and/or specialty training, and have to split their time between research, administrative committees and teaching
5) Administrators who don't like clinical dentistry, and have to put in so many teaching hours to satisfy their appointment to faculty
6) Dentists who don't do well or hate private practice because of bad people skills or slow clinical skills-So they get stuck teaching basic classes like dental anatomy and covering the clinic floor

The general dentists who teach generally need to have about 4 years of experience before coming back to the school.

If you want to excel in a faculty position, I would suggest doing some kind of specialty or research training. You will need a more advanced academic background if you want to become a dean or high-level administrator, and will stand a better chance of getting a tenured position if you really stand out in a particular field.

Oh yes...For the last part of your question...

Pros:
-You have the opportunity to be a mentor and inspire young people
-Don't have to worry about running private practice
-Salaried position not based on productivity (research excluded)
-Researchers get to travel to "conferences" in exotic places
-You're less busy when school isn't in session
-Advancing the field through research can be exciting for certain personality types
-Being a dean is prestigious, and you have an opportunity to improve the way education works
-Once you get tenure you can do whatever you want to, and the school can't fire you

Cons:
-You don't control your salary, so pay at lower administrative levels is less than private practice
-Would likely still have to manage people below you at some point in your career
-You would still need business skills to have a high-up administrative position in the clinic
-School politics and administration can be very frustrating and degrading
-You take abuse from your superiors, coworkers who have different opinions on treatment plans, students who don't like their marks, and patients who don't like their students
-Studying topics like dental anatomy and occlusion is dead boring...Teaching them would probably be even worse
 
We have people who are mostly retired dentists. The rest of the group seems to be angry underacheivers.
 
2) Retired or nearly-retired dentists who want a day off private practice to "volunteer" for $80/hr to cover the clinic floor (Same applies to nostalgic alumni who want to give back to their alma maters)

$80 and hour!? What school is this? Most places I've heard offer like $10-20 hour for part-time clinical associate faculty. Nothing like getting $100 bucks a day working your butt off when you could be easily making >$500 a day not sweating a drop.
 
$80 and hour!? What school is this? Most places I've heard offer like $10-20 hour for part-time clinical associate faculty. Nothing like getting $100 bucks a day working your butt off when you could be easily making >$500 a day not sweating a drop.
That's what I was thinking. $80/hour for two 3-hour clinic sessions works out to $480/day which, while hardly impressive, is at least a respectable per diem.
 
so, if a lot of the faculty members are underachievers in dental school, where do top students usually end up?
 
$80 and hour!? What school is this? Most places I've heard offer like $10-20 hour for part-time clinical associate faculty. Nothing like getting $100 bucks a day working your butt off when you could be easily making >$500 a day not sweating a drop.

$10 - 20 an hour? Seriously? No wonder they're "angry"! I'm quitting my $20 an hour job to start dental school in two weeks! I would have thought they'd make a little more than that...
 
Not much IMO. A previous poster talked about angry underachievers - :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Fun aside, bad members of faculty are few. However one bad apple ....
 
Sorry I'm not dentist or even a dental student yet, but I wanted to reply to something you said in your post:

My parents think that I may not have business acumen to succeed as a private practitioner.

Do not let the people in your life limit you. Go to dental school, become a great clinician. If you love academia, and want to teach others, then by all means do it. But do not rule out your ability to own and run a successful dental practice. You may not possess the skills now, but you can learn and grow in your abilities.
 
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