What is a consultant?

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I may seem really dumb but what exactly does a medical "consultant" do? I hear people talking about, going into it, but have never known exactly what the job entails. How much do they get paid? What is the work like? hours? I mean consultants in a consulting firm, not like specialty consults at the hospital. lol.

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It could be a few things.

I've most commonly seen it refer to a physician who is taking consults (short for "consultations" I suppose) for his specialty, and I'm guessing this is the one you are referring to. For example, when somebody is admitted to the hospital to have their gall bladder removed, they may be on the surgery service, meaning that the surgery team is the primary team responsible for their care. If something comes up that the surgeons need help with, say, difficult to control diabetes, they may then "consult (internal) medicine," in which case whoever is handling (internal) medicine consults that day will come, see the patient, and answer the question the primary team is asking (i.e.-"how do we manage this patient's diabetes?"). I'll leave questions about hours, pay, work structure, etc to those who know more than me about this.

At the Mayo Clinic a "consultant" is the attending physician, AKA "attending." This is the fully trained doctor who supervises residents or sees patients by himself/herself without residents/fellows/others. It was explained to me that this terminology is preferred because it reinforces the idea that the residents are in charge and the attending is just there to consult with.

And of course, a "consultant" could be somebody that the hospital has hired to do something - like an IT consultant who comes in to install a new electronic medical record system.
 
adcadet, i don't think you read the OP's question right.

to the OP - i think a lot of consultants work for drug companies and help run trials or work for/with lawyers. i'm honestly not sure what the salary is like. hopefully someone here knows.
 
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It could be a few things.

I've most commonly seen it refer to a physician who is taking consults (short for "consultations" I suppose) for his specialty, and I'm guessing this is the one you are referring to. For example, when somebody is admitted to the hospital to have their gall bladder removed, they may be on the surgery service, meaning that the surgery team is the primary team responsible for their care. If something comes up that the surgeons need help with, say, difficult to control diabetes, they may then "consult (internal) medicine," in which case whoever is handling (internal) medicine consults that day will come, see the patient, and answer the question the primary team is asking (i.e.-"how do we manage this patient's diabetes?"). I'll leave questions about hours, pay, work structure, etc to those who know more than me about this.

At the Mayo Clinic a "consultant" is the attending physician, AKA "attending." This is the fully trained doctor who supervises residents or sees patients by himself/herself without residents/fellows/others. It was explained to me that this terminology is preferred because it reinforces the idea that the residents are in charge and the attending is just there to consult with.

And of course, a "consultant" could be somebody that the hospital has hired to do something - like an IT consultant who comes in to install a new electronic medical record system.

The Mayo clinic def'n is the European use of the word (particularly in English training programs, the "consultant" is the senior physician in a given group).
 
wow, none of you have been over to the med-business forums. very impressed by your dedication to medicine 🙂

this is old hat to any md from the boston area as they get actively recruited by McKinsey, Boston Consulting, Deloitte, Ernst&Young, et al during medical school, but basically medical consulting is working in corporate healthcare. from what I understand this means roughly a 4 day on the road speaking with clients/potential accounts, 1 day at corporate headquarters kind of deal.

the reason you're a 'consultant' is because you work for a corporation (ie. McKinsey) that is consulted by other corporations (ie. Blue Cross) to help them with major strategic/operational needs, or an organizational deficiency (Ford, for example, is a non-medical company did this in the 80s with Lee Iacocca vs Henry Ford). if you prefer medical analogies, basically you're part of a corporate 'doctor' that helps sick corporations get better, or healthy corporations learn how to become healthier or prevent from becoming sick.

this is an older post from a user who was apparently a consultant prior to entering medical school:

As a partner, you are responsible for sales and keeping clients happy. You woo them with dinners, baseball games, strip clubs, etc. You'll pretty much do anything to keep that $40 million account. If someone junior screws up and jeopardizes the account, you get rid of him. If you have competent senior managers overseeing the day-to-day work, it's not that much work. If you have many existing or prospective clients scattered across the country, you may be in one city on Monday and a different city on Wednesday, week in, week out. You can expect to be on the road 100% of the time. It's not all bad. You stay in nice hotels, drive nice rentals, eat nice dinners, and you get to enjoy the nightlife of that city. The money is great. Partners can make between $300k to $1 million at large firms.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Making partner is not easy at all and there's no guarantee at all like there is if you finish residency and become an attending. If you think you've got what it takes to be partner, then consulting is attractive alternative, but very few ever make it. It's a highly political process. If you don't make partner, just quit and start your own consulting firm. The CEO of my old firm did that and retired before 40 with probably $20 million in the bank.

and in regards to your question about salary,

If you're smart enough to do MD/PhD, you'll probably make more than $100k easy. More than $150k is really tough. You'll have to go pretty far in consulting before you make more than that. More than $150k is usually senior managers who are one level away from partner (it depends on the city too).

these are the threads if you're interested. personally, it sounds like it could really get under my skin. medicine itself has a lot of ass kissing, and this seems like a whole nother level. but if you've got business in your heart and no room left for medicine, maybe you'd find it a match.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=365192
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=71845
http://www.mckinsey.com/aboutus/careers/

ad, thanks for explaining to us what a hospital consultant is 🙂
 
ad, thanks for explaining to us what a hospital consultant is 🙂
I didn't want to insult anyone, but newenglandgal doesn't list much in her profile other than "medical student" and with only 21 posts I was guessing she was pretty junior. And hey, it's a fair question if you haven't been on the wards much. I still don't know if she was asking about somebody on a medical consultation service (which might make sense as she's posting in the IM forum) or somebody doing business consulting work (then why didn't she post in the business forum?).
 
I still don't know if she was asking about somebody on a medical consultation service (which might make sense as she's posting in the IM forum) or somebody doing business consulting work (then why didn't she post in the business forum?).

I mean consultants in a consulting firm, not like specialty consults at the hospital. lol.

i think she posted in the wrong forum
 
i think she posted in the wrong forum
With her clarification edit, yes, you're right. Please ignore my little lecture earlier.
 
One example are medicine attendings who work as part-time consultants for healthcare insurance companies, reviewing patient charts and deciding how many additional days to reimburse or when to terminate a patient's benefits.
 
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