What is a good number of IIs for an acceptance?

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"Interviews 3, a doctor you will be"... statistically speaking.

But no number of interviews guarantees matriculation or acceptance.

I have five IIs...but no love from my state school - although a new one is opening up this year :/
 
One is all you theoretically and hypothetically need young gromothy. I have had one interview and got accepted. I have been doing some serious research though on very very reliable sources that say the correlation coefficient between attractiveness/10 and acceptances post-interview is near .903.

so based on very scientifically sound logic, me and @Healer@1994 are both 10/10's

/dun goofing
 
One is all you theoretically and hypothetically need young gromothy. I have had one interview and got accepted. I have been doing some serious research though on very very reliable sources that say the correlation coefficient between attractiveness/10 and acceptances post-interview is near .903.

so based on very scientifically sound logic, me and @Healer@1994 are both 10/10's

/dun goofing
I can't really argue. I am a beautiful human being :laugh:
 
Is he still around, I havent seen him post in a while. I wonder which baller school he will be attending.
Lol I don't think he is.

Edit: Just checked my PM. he never responded to me lol. For some reason I thought he responded

Edit: Oh wait, he did! I had sent him PMs on 2 different occasions.

Bottom line...I'm pretty sure if someone asked, he'd probably not tell them.
 
I know a guy who interviewed at 12 schools last year and only got into one. And that's about what I would've expected if you told me he would've interviewed at 12. On the other hand, I know a guy who went 8 for 8. There's no magic formula.
 
40% of matriculants in 2015 attended 2 interviews or less. Nearly half of matriculants had a only received a single acceptance offer

Thank you! I've been waitlisted at one school so far. I have 4 more interviews to go. Just completed one recently. I haven't received any love from my state school - UNR, although Vegas opened up. Here's to hoping for some luck in the next four.
 
I've realized that you never stop feeling anxious, no matter the amount of II you receive... It's not until you get that first (and possibly only) acceptance that you can finally breathe a sigh of relief.

Exactly my feelings!!! I just need to know that I will be an MD.
 
Exactly my feelings!!! I just need to know that I will be an MD.
I've realized that you never stop feeling anxious, no matter the amount of II you receive... It's not until you get that first (and possibly only) acceptance that you can finally breathe a sigh of relief.

It doesnt go away. I dont think it will until I am at the white coat ceremony.
 
Unless you have a terrible personality, seems like 3 IIs should get you in, so long as you were realistic in your school list.
 
I have a friend who interviewed at 7 schools last year... and was waitlisted or rejected from all of them and is re-applying this cycle. It's giving me nightmares because she herself and the rest of us all thought that she'd be fine with that many interviews.
 
You are by definition realistic about your school list if you have received three IIs over a cycle.

Probably. I always wonder if a person who was on the lower end of a top-tier applicant might get many interviews at top tier schools and not get in due to not throwing in more than one safety schools?
 
Probably. I always wonder if a person who was on the lower end of a top-tier applicant might get many interviews at top tier schools and not get in due to not throwing in more than one safety schools?
It's possible, but it's very unlikely you get rejected from multiple schools post rejection without some serious ii performance issues. Especially this early in the cycle.
 
I have a friend who interviewed at 7 schools last year... and was waitlisted or rejected from all of them and is re-applying this cycle. It's giving me nightmares because she herself and the rest of us all thought that she'd be fine with that many interviews.
I don't think the app is her issue if she received 7 interviews. IMHO.
 
Are IIs often misleading? Like maybe you are already ranked lower than the majority of their other interviewees but they still sent you an II anyway....in which case they know they would WL/reject you...but in the rare chance that you amaze them with an astonishing performance on your interview day then they would accept you? So basically you're already a doomed WL/reject with an II but they just wanted to give you that tiny chance to amaze them.
 
Are IIs often misleading? Like maybe you are already ranked lower than the majority of their other interviewees but they still sent you an II anyway....in which case they know they would WL/reject you...but in the rare chance that you amaze them with an astonishing performance on your interview day then they would accept you? So basically you're already a doomed WL/reject with an II but they just wanted to give you that tiny chance to amaze them.
I mean why would schools do all the work and expend all the resources to reject you? Later in the cycle waitlist is a possibility. But it doesn't make a lot of sense to invite people you want to reject.
 
Here is an example. During a recent ii I sat with a few candidates. 3/5 of them were social talked to each other were polite and followed social Norma to be expected from all professionals. One of them had difficulty keeping conversation, eye contact or even answer questions I would ask them. It was obvious that the person was terribly shy. The other candidate made a clearly inappropriate political comment to the dean, and was acerbic, curt, rude and a general know-it-all condescending to other students. Which candidates do you think will be marked negatively if these characteristics' continued to be displayed during the interview?
 
Here is an example. During a recent ii I sat with a few candidates. 3/5 of them were social talked to each other were polite and followed social Norma to be expected from all professionals. One of them had difficulty keeping conversation, eye contact or even answer questions I would ask them. It was obvious that the person was terribly shy. The other candidate made a clearly inappropriate political comment to the dean, and was acerbic, curt, rude and a general know-it-all condescending to other students. Which candidates do you think will be marked negatively if these characteristics' continued to be displayed during the interview?

I don't know...my interview settings were different. Everyone behaved and the dean didn't really walk around or observe. I think you're placing too much emphasis on the pre-interview settings. If the guy that was being rude was inappropriate then yea of course...but these are rare situations...most interviewees behave. It's the private interviews that matters and we can't observe that.
 
I don't know...my interview settings were different. Everyone behaved and the dean didn't really walk around or observe. I think you're placing too much emphasis on the pre-interview settings. If the guy that was being rude was inappropriate then yea of course...but these are rare situations...most interviewees behave. It's the private interviews that matters and we can't observe that.
The terribly shy person has difficulty picking up social cues. Probably will during the interview as well. The rude person may behave, but that person asked a ridiculously political question during q and a from the dean. That person in all liklihood does not realize that they can rub people the wrong way or that medical school interview q and a are not the place to ask politically charged questions.
 
The terribly shy person has difficulty picking up social cues. Probably will during the interview as well. The rude person may behave, but that person asked a ridiculously political question during q and a from the dean. That person in all liklihood does not realize that they can rub people the wrong way or that medical school interview q and a are not the place to ask politically charged questions.

What was the question?
 
the stories of people with 3+ IIs and then all rejections/waitlists scares the fck out of me

i have a hard time believing that those stories are just because the person was a terrible interviewer since i have simply never met anyone like that on the trail thus far
 
the stories of people with 3+ IIs and then all rejections/waitlists scares the fck out of me

i have a hard time believing that those stories are just because the person was a terrible interviewer since i have simply never met anyone like that on the trail thus far
I have to agree...especially for schools with something like 25-30% post interview acceptance rate I have a hard time believing that 75% of people were awful, awkward, terrible interviewers. The opinion on here sometimes seems to sway too hard toward "the interview is just to make sure that you're able to hold a conversation"

Then again I am not the one doing the interviewing so maybe people that seem normal outside of the interview freeze up and forget how to speak
 
I have to agree...especially for schools with something like 25-30% post interview acceptance rate I have a hard time believing that 75% of people were awful, awkward, terrible interviewers. The opinion on here sometimes seems to sway too hard toward "the interview is just to make sure that you're able to hold a conversation"

Then again I am not the one doing the interviewing so maybe people that seem normal outside of the interview freeze up and forget how to speak
Exactly. though tbh ive been on the other side of the table, interviewing people, and could make a laundry list of things i would dock points for. (hard to engage with, not excited about the school, roundabout answers, rambling etc.)

but points from that list wouldnt be representative of someone who just needed to hold a conversation
 
Exactly. though tbh ive been on the other side of the table, interviewing people, and could make a laundry list of things i would dock points for. (hard to engage with, not excited about the school, roundabout answers, rambling etc.)

but points from that list wouldnt be representative of someone who just needed to hold a conversation
That's the thing, if people are arrogant enough or don't possess the maturity to self assess for social interactions issues how do you expect those people to hit all the important pieces like being excited about the school and such. Seems like some people might get weeded out.
 
the stories of people with 3+ IIs and then all rejections/waitlists scares the fck out of me

i have a hard time believing that those stories are just because the person was a terrible interviewer since i have simply never met anyone like that on the trail thus far

Same...I feel that what the other adcoms on here have said is true...not all IIs are on equal rankings. Person A gets a II and she's stellar and is probably already accepted if she doesn't show up on interview day dressed as a pumpkin....Person B gets an II at same school and may had been their lower tier applicant who's given a chance where he must be stellar to get accepted.
 
That's the thing, if people are arrogant enough or don't possess the maturity to self assess for social interactions issues how do you expect those people to hit all the important pieces like being excited about the school and such. Seems like some people might get weeded out.
having said that tho, looking at the notes my interviewers make on their sheets. 99% of the time it is literally a regurgitation of my answers to their questions. but at that level im certainly just thinking too far into it. some interviewers were kind enough to say things like "those are excellent answers/ideas/thoughts" but for the most part they've just been conversational with 1 person writing down things that come up.
 
having said that tho, looking at the notes my interviewers make on their sheets. 99% of the time it is literally a regurgitation of my answers to their questions. but at that level im certainly just thinking too far into it. some interviewers were kind enough to say things like "those are excellent answers/ideas/thoughts" but for the most part they've just been conversational with 1 person writing down things that come up.
Most of my interviewers barely write any notes. One marked on my passion , the other regurgitated that I would be a great fit for the school. Idk. It makes no sense to me to invite people to reject. It's costly to do That for the school.
 
Most of my interviewers barely write any notes. I had a weird off tangent discussion about usmle and mcat correlations with one.
i think it depends on how the office runs things. mine had little printed out questions with boxes for them to fill out like an assignment lol

tbh it really made me feel like i was on the better side of the interviewing table.
 
Here is an example. During a recent ii I sat with a few candidates. 3/5 of them were social talked to each other were polite and followed social Norma to be expected from all professionals. One of them had difficulty keeping conversation, eye contact or even answer questions I would ask them. It was obvious that the person was terribly shy. The other candidate made a clearly inappropriate political comment to the dean, and was acerbic, curt, rude and a general know-it-all condescending to other students. Which candidates do you think will be marked negatively if these characteristics' continued to be displayed during the interview?
Observing other people at my pre-interview was fascinating. Like you said, it was really easy to spot the 1-2 who were going to shoot themselves in the foot. If you don't have that person at your interview....then it's probably you 😳
 
I know a guy who interviewed at 12 schools last year and only got into one. And that's about what I would've expected if you told me he would've interviewed at 12. On the other hand, I know a guy who went 8 for 8. There's no magic formula.
Out of curiosity, why did you expect that of him? Bad social skills?
 
i think it depends on how the office runs things. mine had little printed out questions with boxes for them to fill out like an assignment lol

tbh it really made me feel like i was on the better side of the interviewing table.
Hahah. One of my mmi the interviewer went rogue and off script . I wonder how that is going to impact me.
 
Exactly. though tbh ive been on the other side of the table, interviewing people, and could make a laundry list of things i would dock points for. (hard to engage with, not excited about the school, roundabout answers, rambling etc.)

but points from that list wouldnt be representative of someone who just needed to hold a conversation

The school I interviewed at when I called for feedback that my interviewer gave me solid remarks but they chose to waitlist me since it was early in the cycle and wanted to look at other candidates. Everything in my app was solid...Not very hepful feedback if you ask me. A girl form my date got accepted with lower stats and she was terribly shy and awkward. So it does make me very confused??
 
i have 4 more interviews to look forward too so i'm hoping i'm not one of the n=1 horror stories
 
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