What is the hardest part of Vet school?

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Just curious. Are the hours demanding? Would you actually have time to work part-time? Is the homework extensive? Do you have to keep up 'grades' like in undergraduate school?

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A lot of us in this forum are just starting vet school, but there are a lot of vet students that read the pre-vet forum though, so hopefully they'll chime in.

As far as me starting out at UTK, I'm taking 7 classes plus a week of application-based learning. The seven classes are Gross Anatomy, Physiology, Immunology, Microscopic Anatomy, Bacteriology, an ethics course, and Physical Diagnosis. They say this is 17 hours, but with 15+ tests this semester, it doesn't feel like when I took 17 hours in undergrad!

I don't plan on working as of now. I'm going to give it a semester and see what kind of free time I have. Personally, right now, I'd rather take the loans and have the time for myself and friends.

As far as the work load, I'm sure it varies class to class between schools. Anatomy/Physio are huge, important classes and will require study anywhere. As far as the others, I imagine there is variation in what takes more time at various schools. What schools are you interested in? Maybe students from those schools would be able to more directly speak to the work load there.
 
As a vet student there is A LOT you need to learn so expect to be in class for long days. For example, during winter quarter last year (my first year) we were in class from 8am to 2-4pm...that's a LONG time seating listening to people lecture. I have a hard time staying awake for that long period of time doing "nothing" so my caffeine addiction has greatly increased 😴(it's a good thing we have a coffee shop in the school!)
I do actually work part-time for a vet. I work Wednesday nights and Saturday mornings and to be honest it keeps me in touch with reality. Sometimes it's hard to see the light at the end of tunnel and going to work helps me reinforce some of the material I learn in class (esp. the importance of anatomy and endocrinology!)
At OSU, we don't really have homework. Some professors give assignments (mainly stats and pathology), but you are pretty much studying most of the time (at least I was).
You have to get passing grade in all your core courses at OSU. If you fail any core courses then you have to retake that class PLUS any core course in which you received less than a "C". So grades are important, just in a different way. If you are looking to get an internship or a residency than you need a high GPA but otherwise just do your best.
Just remember "C=DVM" 😉

Good luck with everything!
 
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More less, Iowa State.
I have a car to pay for so part time work would ne required for me. im trying my damnest to get rid of the car and trade it in for something cheaper, but i think its always a good idea to have money somewhere specially if your parents havent and arent helping with school.
 
I think the hardest part is simply the sheer volume of material thrown at you all at once. We have 21 credit hours, and are in class 8-5pm pretty much M-F, one or two days a week it looks like we may be done at 3pm.

Yeah, it's day #2 of orientation and I'm stressed ...sigh...
 
The vet school work load looks like a lot more than my nursing program was. I went to school from 8-3p M-F, but we did get an hour for lunch, so it wasn't that bad. There's a thread over on one of the medical forums about a typical day of med school...that class attendance is optional! If the posts have any truth to them then vet students have a ton more work than med students. I expect it though. I look forward to it! 😎


Kelly
 
I wonder if those of us coming from full time work lives plus school may have an easier time with vet school? (easy being relative, of course) i already work 8-5, sometimes 7-6, then have classes some nights. perhaps this will 'ease' the transition a bit to full time school life....(fingers crossed)😀
 
First year... we were in class from 9-5 almost every day. And during the first semester, almost everyone did several hours of studying once they got home and on the weekends. The first bit was pretty rough, and then you start to figure out how to play the game. Second semester was a lot better, I wasnt killing myself every night with studying, I joined the gym, maybe could have had a part time job. I think the key with the job is to wait until you figure out how the whole vet school thing works, no matter how well prepared you are its a shock, and to find a job/boss that is really flexible. You don't want to be working the night before an exam! I think for that reason a lot of the people that do have jobs have jobs in the vet hospital or with various researchers at the vet school as these people are very very understanding to the schedule (especially because a lot of them double as your professors).

As far as classes being optional, they pretty much are, at least lectures (labs are not). Penn has a thing called note service where all lectures are recorded and people take turns transcribing the notes for every class so skipping isn't that big of a deal if you are motivated enough to keep up with note service. And sometimes not going to class was way more effective than going, depending on the lecturer. There were some people in our class who you only really saw on test days and during labs. I certainly missed a couple classes too, to go skiing, to go to the Kentucky Derby, to take my dog to an agility trial, to go to the AAEP conference, etc. Not that I promote skipping class, but it takes away some of the stress since its not the end of the world if you miss a couple.

Homework? No, maybe 1 or 2 assignments, but mostly study, study, study.

Grades... are as important as you make them. C=VMD (or DVM) but you may want to do a little better than a C if you are thinking about internship and residency. I usually try to aim for a solid to high B that way if I miss, I have plenty of leeway into the C range and if I do better I get an A. They also post statistics for our class for each exam and I try to stay in the top half, not that it always happens, but its nice to know when you are on par with your peers.

So take a deep breath 🙂 Go with the flow, figure the game out, wait as long as you can to get a job, and have fun! My first year was a blast!
 
Penn has a thing called note service where all lectures are recorded and people take turns transcribing the notes for every class so skipping isn't that big of a deal if you are motivated enough to keep up with note service.
But then you aren't you subject to whatever note-taking skills the person from that day has? I would pity the fool that had to decipher my notes!
 
But then you aren't you subject to whatever note-taking skills the person from that day has? I would pity the fool that had to decipher my notes!

lol, sometimes they arent so great, but there is a liaison in charge of each class and if its not up to snuff then you are asked to fix it. all the transcripts are done by listening to the lecture from class and you have to include everything that was discussed and the lecturer usually goes over the transcript and adds/changes things. its really a great system.
 
I think the hardest part for me was getting used to a consistently higher level of stress... Sort of like finals, all the time. We had one exam a week during first semester, and often more than that second semester. I spent most of my time either studying or feeling guilty for not studying. By the middle of second semester, I finally had to learn to give myself permission to take time off. My test grades went down a hair, but I felt much more like myself, and less likely to bite peoples' heads off! I've settled nicely into the C=DVM mindset, and find that I understand the big picture better when I focus on learning the material rather than cramming minutia into my head. Unfortunately testing focuses on minutia...
 
I wonder if those of us coming from full time work lives plus school may have an easier time with vet school?
No kidding. After years of doing research 7 days a week year-round, I'm thinking... No class on weekends? Semester breaks? Holidays??!! SUMMERS OFF??!! Sweet! 😀
 
I found anatomy the hardest. Thank goodness I am done with it!

Also, the highly competitive classmates can be a bit off putting, I did an agriculture degree before vet, and everyone was a LOT more chilled out....
 
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Are the hours demanding?
8 - 5 everyday

Would you actually have time to work part-time?
yes, if u can squeeze it into ur timetable i used to work 2 hrs in a week as a biology tutor at my uni

Is the homework extensive?
no such thing as homework, juz need to prep for seminars, quizzes, assignments, prac n theory exams

Do you have to keep up 'grades' like in undergraduate school?
nope
 
Do you have to keep up 'grades' like in undergraduate school?
nope
...Unless you want to do an internship and/or residency. Those are competitive applications and grades matter.

But if you intend to go right into general practice or industry, as long as you pass all your classes you'll get the degree. You need to actually have learned the material in order to pass the licensing exam, though.
 
hardest part of vet school i learned today, on my first day....


TIME MANAGEMENT!!!!!
 
...Unless you want to do an internship and/or residency. Those are competitive applications and grades matter.

But if you intend to go right into general practice or industry, as long as you pass all your classes you'll get the degree. You need to actually have learned the material in order to pass the licensing exam, though.

i'm not sure if that applies to australian universities....
 
i'm not sure if that applies to australian universities....
If you intend to practice in Australia, then I have no idea. But if your intention is to go to school abroad and then practice in the US (whether you're originally from the US or not), then I have to imagine the same applies... If you want to get an internship/residency in the US, then your grades matter, no matter where you went to school.

Are you an Aussie? Is there such thing as internship or residency in the British system (which AU & NZ also seem to follow pretty closely)? Is there really no reason why your performance in vet school would ever matter - beyond needing to know the material for the licensing exams?
 
"What is the hardest part of vet school?"

Getting in.
 
"What is the hardest part of vet school?"

Getting in.

If your serious, you're in for a real nasty surprise. Getting in is MUCH easier then dealing with the curriculum/stress/lack of time......😱
 
If your serious, you're in for a real nasty surprise. Getting in is MUCH easier then dealing with the curriculum/stress/lack of time......😱

Technically Pennvet is right. If you can't get into vet school you won't have to deal with the curriculum/stress/lack of time issues! That said getting in just means its time to go to work. So what am I doing here when I should be reviewing....

For other Tufts students don't panic I just intend on reading those histology chapters and reviewing my biochem (and yes I am nuts 😉)
 
If your serious, you're in for a real nasty surprise. Getting in is MUCH easier then dealing with the curriculum/stress/lack of time......😱

Well, considering the average acceptance rate is less than 30%, and the average passing rate once you're in is, um, NOT, I'd say Pennvet maybe has a point.
 
If your serious, you're in for a real nasty surprise. Getting in is MUCH easier then dealing with the curriculum/stress/lack of time......😱

Chris,

I worked full-time through undergrad, finishing in 4 yrs with an extra year and a half worth of credits. My GPA was just below 3.3.

I have spent the last two years building my application. Last fall, I worked 89 consecutive days in a pre-clin facility, with not one work day falling short of 8 hrs. 74 hr weeks on average.

I've taken a few upper level bio courses since then, while maintaining full-time work as a tech, earning only A's.

I have thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours exp. in research, small animal, large animal, equine, varied animal lab settings, etc.

I have a 720q and a 610v for the GRE.

I've learned what most of us here know: It is extremely difficult (almost impossible) to maintain a full-time job, a 3.6+ gpa, and a social life. Since Undergrad, I have sucked it up and completely sacrificed the social life. At 18-22y/o, I wasn't yet ready to do that.

I will not be working while in my first 2 yrs of vet school, and therefore, I would almost bet my life that the most difficult part of vet school (for me), is getting in. Then again, it is all relative, and once I am in, every single part may be the hardest.

I am not claiming to know for sure, but I don't think that the level of difficulty will come as a surprise. I'm pretty sure that I can manipulate a flea comb. (deep breath, I'm just kidding.) 🙂
 
"What is the hardest part of vet school?"

Getting in.

That is such a lie! 🙂

I found the whole sit-around-and-wait-to-get-in part pretty stressful... but my first year of school -- complete with long hours, endless studying, and nearly failing courses -- to be much much harder than the year I spent applying / waiting to get in. Yeah, statistically speaking getting in may be harder, but actually staying in is a lot more emotionally taxing. (On the other hand, my preparation was extended throughout my undergrad years, and I came straight to vet school from undergrad, and I could've done a lot more to make myself more competitive and therefore less stressed about the whole getting-in part.)

Angelo84 -- I would recommend using your last two weeks to sleep/relax, cuz it's the last you're gonna know of such a thing till winter break! But if you gotta, you are wise to be reviewing biochem in preparation for p-chem. Histo ... eh, don't bother 😀 (Last year we didn't start histo till much later... are you guys starting it sooner this year?) Might be more beneficial to start orienting yourself with anatomy, because you really do hit the ground running. (Last year, Dr. Kumar didn't even teach the first two chapters in the syllabus; we were on our own for those.)
 
That is such a lie! 🙂

I found the whole sit-around-and-wait-to-get-in part pretty stressful... but my first year of school -- complete with long hours, endless studying, and nearly failing courses -- to be much much harder than the year I spent applying / waiting to get in. Yeah, statistically speaking getting in may be harder, but actually staying in is a lot more emotionally taxing. (On the other hand, my preparation was extended throughout my undergrad years, and I came straight to vet school from undergrad, and I could've done a lot more to make myself more competitive and therefore less stressed about the whole getting-in part.)


Eagle:

Different Strokes for different folks. You say tomato, I say potato...

Unless our experiences up to this point have been identical, there really is no way to know. But I am very used to working without breaks, and I honestly believe that getting in will be the hardest part (for me). Regardless, there will be no surprise, as constant hard work throughout is well anticipated.
 
pennvet, I can see where you are coming from. My undergrad days were spent similar to yours, work-school-work on monday, school-work-school on tues.... etc. I started vet school yesterday, had class from 8-5, came home and thought 'i don't have to go to work? i have ALL night to study? this is great!' even today I got home a 6 and thought 'i can make dinner, start studying at 8 and go to bed by 11!!' i'm sure it is going to get MUCH harder, but I can appreciate your thoughts. I'll get back to you in a year and let you know if I feel the same way. Plus, i LOVE the classes and studying is FUN! yeah- this will probably go away soon, but oh well! lalala... time to go study again.
good luck!
 
Chris,

I worked full-time through undergrad, finishing in 4 yrs with an extra year and a half worth of credits. My GPA was just below 3.3.

I have spent the last two years building my application. Last fall, I worked 89 consecutive days in a pre-clin facility, with not one work day falling short of 8 hrs. 74 hr weeks on average.

I've taken a few upper level bio courses since then, while maintaining full-time work as a tech, earning only A's.

I have thousands upon thousands upon thousands of hours exp. in research, small animal, large animal, equine, varied animal lab settings, etc.

I have a 720q and a 610v for the GRE.

I've learned what most of us here know: It is extremely difficult (almost impossible) to maintain a full-time job, a 3.6+ gpa, and a social life. Since Undergrad, I have sucked it up and completely sacrificed the social life. At 18-22y/o, I wasn't yet ready to do that.

I will not be working while in my first 2 yrs of vet school, and therefore, I would almost bet my life that the most difficult part of vet school (for me), is getting in. Then again, it is all relative, and once I am in, every single part may be the hardest.

I am not claiming to know for sure, but I don't think that the level of difficulty will come as a surprise. I'm pretty sure that I can manipulate a flea comb. (deep breath, I'm just kidding.) 🙂
Well in undergrad, I worked full time (three jobs) was in school full time, had a pretty good social life and pulled just under a 3.6 total in 4 years and one quarter. That can be done. In vet school I did not work (except for the random volunteering, maintained my social life with my husband (as much as possible, that is where the time management comes in), studied my a$$ off and graduated with just under a 3.4. Trust me vet school is much more difficult (just because of the amount of material, not the difficulty level.) You constantly have to study and are never really "caught up".

But then again I am finding residency even harder than vet school, so they don't lie when they say that it is a constant learning experience. I do love what I do though so it is worth it.

Good Luck, You sound like you have a good chance🙂
 
oh god, i think vet school is a bit less stressful in *some* ways. undergrad, i worked and had a full course load...getting my pre-reqs post-bacc i took classes, worked, volunteered *and* freelanced...so i think that it's great to have a schedule where i'm home at a normal hour and i don't have to be somewhere on weekends...that said, i agree with the post about studying all the time and then feeling guilty not studying! i eventually learned just to relax a bit so i had time to spend with my husband, hanging out with people...etc...but i guess it's stressful in a different way all its own.
 
"What is the hardest part of vet school?"

Getting in.

After less than a week of vet school -- I can laugh at this with a whole new level of appreciation.
 
and I honestly believe that getting in will be the hardest part (for me).

While I'm in the camp that barely remembers getting accepted, since it was quickly blown out of the water by the stress of school, I have to admit there are those rare classmates that still seem to be able to pull A's and hardly study. I don't know how they manage, but it can be done...

Just keep in mind that once you are accepted, you are no longer the best of the best. You're surrounded by other "best-of-the-bests", so now the majority of you are average or below average. Most of us enter vet school never having experienced a C on a transcript, or failing a test, or working your butt off and still getting a below average grade. There's no way to really prepare for that kind of stress, but like I said, most people just get good at deciding where new priorities lay once you're in vet school.
 
I almost find threads like this to be unhelpful. I don't want any of you to take this the wrong way. I'm not complaining, I'm just simply providing a point of view. What I mean is, since I've been on the path, I've heard a million times how vet school is so tough and draining. Well, yeah. I understand that it's vital that people should know what they're getting into but it's almost discouraging to hear it ad nauseam. Of course, nobody is twisting my arm to read this thread but somehow I feel compelled to read. I guess that makes me a masochist. 😳
 
Haha just wait until you're mired in first year curriculum and a second year comes up to you and says "Don't worry, this is nothing. Just wait until next year!" My first instinct was to jump over the couch back and strangle her 😀. I couldn't sleep a few days before classes started because we got this "The train has already left the station" talk....and then first year wasn't as bad as I had imagined. Of course now that everyone keeps telling me I'm entering the "hard year" I'm going to have another few sleepless nights! :scared:
 
Haha just wait until you're mired in first year curriculum and a second year comes up to you and says "Don't worry, this is nothing. Just wait until next year!" My first instinct was to jump over the couch back and strangle her 😀. I couldn't sleep a few days before classes started because we got this "The train has already left the station" talk....and then first year wasn't as bad as I had imagined. Of course now that everyone keeps telling me I'm entering the "hard year" I'm going to have another few sleepless nights! :scared:

The third year I'm living with said that every year she was told it would be the hardest year. And so far, each has been successively harder (after, of course, being told that getting in was the hardest part).
 
I almost find threads like this to be unhelpful. I don't want any of you to take this the wrong way. I'm not complaining, I'm just simply providing a point of view. What I mean is, since I've been on the path, I've heard a million times how vet school is so tough and draining. Well, yeah. I understand that it's vital that people should know what they're getting into but it's almost discouraging to hear it ad nauseam. Of course, nobody is twisting my arm to read this thread but somehow I feel compelled to read. I guess that makes me a masochist. 😳
if you dont like threads like this, dont read it. if i have a question, i am going to ask regardless. I am writing to understand and know how others perceive their vet school experience. and youre right, no one is twisting your arm to read this, go skip dee dee doo out.
 
if you dont like threads like this, dont read it. if i have a question, i am going to ask regardless. I am writing to understand and know how others perceive their vet school experience. and youre right, no one is twisting your arm to read this, go skip dee dee doo out.

Yes, Mam!!
 
I went to lunch with my big bro yesterday and he said, enjoy the first month because after that you have a test or two every week, which prepares you for second semester where that's the norm. He also said to email him or call if I'm having a bad day and he'd try to turn it into a bearable one with some advice. How nice is that?
 
if you dont like threads like this, dont read it. if i have a question, i am going to ask regardless. I am writing to understand and know how others perceive their vet school experience. and youre right, no one is twisting your arm to read this, go skip dee dee doo out.

Dude, you sound evil....and that angular circus-mirror picture of you is pretty scary, too. You should work on trying to be a nicer person, it will make you feel better in the long run.

Everytime that this board evokes emotion (in me or anyone else), I can't help but be reminded of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back." We are pretty lame, and I am seriously debating whether this board is even helpful (given all the negative posts.) It is annoying, at best.
 
Dude, you sound evil....and that angular circus-mirror picture of you is pretty scary, too. You should work on trying to be a nicer person, it will make you feel better in the long run.

Everytime that this board evokes emotion (in me or anyone else), I can't help but be reminded of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back." We are pretty lame, and I am seriously debating whether this board is even helpful (given all the negative posts.) It is annoying, at best.

Some people might say if you want a positive atmosphere (which btw, I think board is mostly that), only contribute positive comments to threads.
 
but it's almost discouraging to hear it ad nauseam.

I can understand this- we do tend to post more about the negative aspects of school, but to be fair, this thread is asking "What is the hardest part of vet school?"

Maybe I'll start a "What's the coolest thing you've gotten to do in vet school?" thread 😉
 
Dude, you sound evil....and that angular circus-mirror picture of you is pretty scary, too. You should work on trying to be a nicer person, it will make you feel better in the long run.

Everytime that this board evokes emotion (in me or anyone else), I can't help but be reminded of "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back." We are pretty lame, and I am seriously debating whether this board is even helpful (given all the negative posts.) It is annoying, at best.
i am not evil. and in all honesty, you must know me to fully know if i am a nice person, and why don't you try being a little more mature in response to your "angular circus-mirror picture of you is pretty scary, too", that was pretty high school ish if you ask me. go work on your people skills and take your negativity elsewhere if you're such an 'adult' for lack of better words. 🙂
 
Though you must admit Miss Vet that being rude to those people that you are asking for help is not a wise idea. People will not be apt to reply to your threads in the future.
 
Though you must admit Miss Vet that being rude to those people that you are asking for help is not a wise idea. People will not be apt to reply to your threads in the future.
i am not being rude to anyone on this thread.
What are you talking about?
What is wrong with some of these people?
Those who wrote to me, were negative and their immature comments were not asked for nor needed. So direct that attention to them, not me. My thread was asking a simple question, therefore, I was the one asking for 'help' and a question.
So, if you are going to respond to this thread, PLEASE refer to the question. The question was not, 'Let's see how many people can be rude'.
I don't think i am being rude at all. Some of the comments left were NOT needed nor expected.
So if any rude comments are going to be left, PLEASE DO NOT respond to my thread. They are all strictly educational and in no way connected to high school nonsense.

Thank You and END the negativity
 
Well, I didn't want you to take my comment wrong but I think you did. All I was saying was that on this track you are going to hear a million times how hard it is. You're going to hear it from the doctors that have been through it, the students that are going through it, the pre-health committees at your school, and even your hairdresser whose cousin's best friend's uncle failed out because he couldn't hack it. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't ask the question at all. So, anyway...enjoy.
 
Well, I didn't want you to take my comment wrong but I think you did. All I was saying was that on this track you are going to hear a million times how hard it is. You're going to hear it from the doctors that have been through it, the students that are going through it, the pre-health committees at your school, and even your hairdresser whose cousin's best friend's uncle failed out because he couldn't hack it. I wasn't saying that you shouldn't ask the question at all. So, anyway...enjoy.
I thought you were being negative about it. If you werent, then accept my apologies.

el fin.
 
The third year I'm living with said that every year she was told it would be the hardest year. And so far, each has been successively harder (after, of course, being told that getting in was the hardest part).

I'd agree with your roommate. When I got into vet school, I knew it'd be hard. First year (especially the first semester) knocked me on my butt. The second years had been telling us that 2nd year was harder, but somehow it ended up being harder than I imagined yet again. All bets are off for 3rd year. At least I can "see" clinics (we start in Feb / March).

Also, although 2nd year was harder than 1st, I enjoyed it more. We had more of our clinical classes, like Exotics, Food Animal, Oncology, Cardiology, Orthopedics... Our teachers were more outstanding in 2nd year and studying was more fun (if you can use that word with studying) because I could see its application.

Good luck to everyone starting a new year!
 
Some people might say if you want a positive atmosphere (which btw, I think board is mostly that), only contribute positive comments to threads.

My comments are all positive. I don't see how they could be misinterpreted as being negative.
 
i suddenly remember another sucky part about vet medicine is the smell...

i juz did a grey hound dissection in the post mortem lab today and the smell juz stays with u the whole day. its the worse smell ever, smells of death, blood, decay, body fluids and formalin and god knows wat. the smell doesnt juz linger in ur clothings but at the back of ur throat as well so everytime u take a deep breathe or have ur meals u can "taste" the PM lab

the bigger the animal, the stronger the smell...i gagged a couple of times at the smell.

the animals sometimes do a post mortem **** as well which is incredibly smelly and messy. the smell of the carcass is bad enough but with the feces its like x10 worse
 
pennvet, I can see where you are coming from. My undergrad days were spent similar to yours, work-school-work on monday, school-work-school on tues.... etc. I started vet school yesterday, had class from 8-5, came home and thought 'i don't have to go to work? i have ALL night to study? this is great!' even today I got home a 6 and thought 'i can make dinner, start studying at 8 and go to bed by 11!!' i'm sure it is going to get MUCH harder, but I can appreciate your thoughts. I'll get back to you in a year and let you know if I feel the same way. Plus, i LOVE the classes and studying is FUN! yeah- this will probably go away soon, but oh well! lalala... time to go study again.
good luck!

i take it all back. 😛

with 4 cumulative exams/finals in the next two weeks... i wanna die. vet school is hard hard hard!! :scared:
 
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