I can't seem to find any open positions for a full time hospitalist in any mid/major cities. Do these exist or is it just part time or locum tenens?
What is the job outlook for IM?
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They exist, but u often have to know someone. I am doing outpatient, but I got my job when the recruiter and website said there were no openings. I bypassed the recruiter and used my connections. Same thing happened for several of the hospitalists in my group.
That's basically what I've heard. Very few jobs unless you are married to the program director meant that literally lol
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Lol what happened to primary care physician shortage? I'm looking to do IM so I hope there are jobs out there upon graduation 
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Lol what happened to primary care physician shortage? I'm looking to do IM so I hope there are jobs out there upon graduation
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Shortages are in suburban and rural areas, not major cities, where there is almost always an over saturation.
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Hey man, don't knock Idaho -- it's majestic. It's actually my dream to be a hospitalist in Idaho lol.
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It depends on what you're looking for, but job outlook for IM is phenomenal.
The rule is typically you can do what you want, where you want, for the salary you want, but you only get 2/3. While it may not be that simple anymore... when I was a 3rd year resident (6 months ago), I was getting a dozen emails a day recruiting hospitalists, typically for more rural areas. Some of them were ridiculous, like a WY gig that paid >$400k/year. Big cities obviously pay significantly less, but no one I knew had that much difficulty finding work even in the bay area, LA, etc.
Of course, if you want to work for an academic center in Manhattan/SF/Chicago, you might end up making half of what you would make in private practice in the suburbs, but that's your choice.
The rule is typically you can do what you want, where you want, for the salary you want, but you only get 2/3. While it may not be that simple anymore... when I was a 3rd year resident (6 months ago), I was getting a dozen emails a day recruiting hospitalists, typically for more rural areas. Some of them were ridiculous, like a WY gig that paid >$400k/year. Big cities obviously pay significantly less, but no one I knew had that much difficulty finding work even in the bay area, LA, etc.
Of course, if you want to work for an academic center in Manhattan/SF/Chicago, you might end up making half of what you would make in private practice in the suburbs, but that's your choice.
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The third year residents I've talked to are having no problems getting interviews and job offers. And there's tons of listings on hospitalist jobs.com and others. Not sure where this doom and gloom is coming from.
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What were some of the offers you got for big cities in terms of salary? I hear offers can be as low as 150k starting salary for a hospitalist in ny.....meanwhile ive got loans to pay off....
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That sounds about right for central NYC last I heard from someone looking there, though that was a few years ago. Even less if academic. Go out to the burbs and it's probably a fair bit higher, but my group of acquaintances is more west/Midwest bias so I can't say for sure.
SF is a little bit higher pay than what is described for NYC depending on which hospital system people end up at. Or a lot higher for some of them in the rest of the bay.
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A plastic surgeon told me once that wherever you go, the plastic surgeons will tell you it's a tough market and to look 20 miles down the road... as far as I'm concerned, people will always be getting sick and needing bigger tits and straighter noses, so I hestitate to ever believe that job opportunities are "poor" for any sort of doctor.
Offers can be pretty dismal if you're willing to accept less. That's capitalism for ya... they'll scalp you if they can. As for NYC, I've always found it funny why people have to practice in the physical city limits. I know plenty of surgeons who live in Manhattan and commute to Jersey or Long Island where they make a killing, compared to the rat race on Park Ave.
Offers can be pretty dismal if you're willing to accept less. That's capitalism for ya... they'll scalp you if they can. As for NYC, I've always found it funny why people have to practice in the physical city limits. I know plenty of surgeons who live in Manhattan and commute to Jersey or Long Island where they make a killing, compared to the rat race on Park Ave.
