What Kind of Support Would You Like from KOL's?

[drusso]

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With 3/4 of the survey responders endorsing that the specialty has gotten worse how can KOLs better support the field? Advocacy, social media and public awareness, research, journal clubs, etc?

 

[Ducttape]

KOLs can stop doing KOL stuff and reduce all the marketing of these dubious interventional spine procedures that are not backed by rigorous scientific research.


and wear skechers or chuck taylors...

 

[Agast]

KOLs seem to mostly be propped up by industry and have not independently done anything remarkable or ground breaking. It’s weird seeing the same names and faces over and over. Anyone “new” is just more of the same posturing. I’d like to see more work on public health policy.

 

[epidural man]

With 3/4 of the survey responders endorsing that the specialty has gotten worse how can KOLs better support the field? Advocacy, social media and public awareness, research, journal clubs, etc?

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They could do a lot of great things!

First - they could define why THEY are a key opinion leader, and who decided THEY are the key opinion leader, and define why their opinion is more "key" than mine, and who elected them a leader? This would be a good start.

Second, they could push to the fullest extent with extreme enthusiasm functional recovery pain programs (Intensive outpatient pain program) and rarely mention any interventions.

If they did that, perhaps I would be more inclined to listen to their "key" opinion.

 

[DOctorJay]

If you haven't been in the field practicing for at least a decade, you don't have any "key" opinions and I don't consider you a "leader".

I want to listen to people who have a firm grasp of the literature AND a certain level of experience to parse out what truly matters and helps patients.

Tim Lamer and Tim Maus are my idea of KOLs.

 

[cowboydoc]

If you haven't been in the field practicing for at least a decade, you don't have any "key" opinions and I don't consider you a "leader".

I want to listen to people who have a firm grasp of the literature AND a certain level of experience to parse out what truly matters and helps patients.

Tim Lamer and Tim Maus are my idea of KOLs.

Truth! The young, flashy KOLs have a lot of similarities to the 25 year old "Life Coaches."

 

[BobBarker]

The KOL’s have to have completely delegated huge segments of their practice or the practice is just secondary to the KOL stuff. There is no way to run a successful practice and be gone all of the time.

 

[BobBarker]

Then there is the complete lack of family life the KOL has. No way to go to soccer cause you are at WVSIPP even though you practice in Kansas.

 

[nvrsumr]

My first boss was paid by a fentanyl sublingual company to travel and give lectures that no one attended. He was their biggest prescriber.

Still in federal jail with the ceo of company.

Even had a research dept and ran trials. But really sham and back door payments again from other companies

Aughts kol.

 

[buddababa]

My first boss was paid by a fentanyl sublingual company to travel and give lectures that no one attended. He was their biggest prescriber.

Still in federal jail with the ceo of company.

Even had a research dept and ran trials. But really sham and back door payments again from other companies

Aughts kol.

is this the guy in kansas?

 

[pinstriped1992]

My first boss was paid by a fentanyl sublingual company to travel and give lectures that no one attended. He was their biggest prescriber.

Still in federal jail with the ceo of company.

Even had a research dept and ran trials. But really sham and back door payments again from other companies

Aughts kol.

Sounds like Subsys

 

[CleanUp]

I personally don’t get the appeal of being a KOL. True leaders, in my mind, exist in academia doing research. Or, they’re seeing patients in the community and sharing tips and insights (like many here). It must be an ego thing because financially like others have pointed out unless you’re a handful of “top” KOLs the financial payout just isn’t there. From lectures at night, traveling on the weekends, blocking off clinic, etc I just don’t see the financial return. I mean, imagine if they just picked up a few more shifts in the OR or stayed later in the ASC.

Maybe I’m jaded here but the 4 hour weekend course doesn’t take into account the prep time, meetings, travel etc. Must be ego.

To be clear I have nothing wrong with the Seattle Science Foundation set up that relies on Zooms, presentations, and applicable Q&A sections.

 

[BobBarker]

Yes, SSF is great.

 

[callmeanesthesia]

We should make SDN KOLs. We could hand out profile badges. Drusso would be the regen KOL. Lobel can be the kypho/OP KOL, Taus can be the Intracept KOL, etc.

 

[drusso]

We should make SDN KOLs. We could hand out profile badges. Drusso would be the regen KOL. Lobel can be the kypho/OP KOL, Taus can be the Intracept KOL, etc.

Reporting for duty...

 

[epidural man]

I’ll ask it again.

Who decides that another practicing pain physician’s opinion is more “key” than mine?

The word leader implies followers. Who are these “leaders” leading? Who chose them as the leader?

 

[Taus]

I’ll ask it again.

Who decides that another practicing pain physician’s opinion is more “key” than mine?

The word leader implies followers. Who are these “leaders” leading? Who chose them as the leader?

I just presumed it was the ones who show other docs which new procedures will make them the most money….

 

[Ducttape]

they are choosing themselves.

you know. the whole false prophets deal...

 

[K-hole]

They are like politicians. They have the ability to spew bs at a fast pace and so people put them in positions of “leadership” because they seem smart.

 

[cowboydoc]

Reporting for duty...

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Is that Ronnie in the background?