What residencies can you do right after dental school on Army HPSP

[frd88]

I just received the Army HPSP scholarship and I'll be going to Penn. I definitely want to specialize at some point. I just have a couple of questions regarding the logistics of specializing with the Army HPSP scholarship.

1. What Army residencies could I do right after dental school? I've heard that some of the residencies require at least one year of service as a gp first.

2. Is it possible to do a civilian residency and then simply pay back your four years incurred for dental school as that specialist. For instance, if I wanted to become an orthodontist, could I do a civilian orthorthodontics residency and then work for the Army for four years afterwards?

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[Bis-GMA111]

from what i've gathered, it is difficult to get a residency spot aside from GPR right out of dental school.

i've also heard that deployments really help your case if you want to do a non GPR residency

 

[hellopeople]

I just received the Army HPSP scholarship and I'll be going to Penn. I definitely want to specialize at some point. I just have a couple of questions regarding the logistics of specializing with the Army HPSP scholarship.

1. What Army residencies could I do right after dental school? I've heard that some of the residencies require at least one year of service as a gp first.

2. Is it possible to do a civilian residency and then simply pay back your four years incurred for dental school as that specialist. For instance, if I wanted to become an orthodontist, could I do a civilian orthorthodontics residency and then work for the Army for four years afterwards?

I have been told on this forum that you cannot do this with the Army. I do not know which branches do allow you this opportunity though.

 

[averagejoedds]

I have heard that Army does not allow you to do civilian residencies. The Navy and Air Force on some occasions will allow you to take civilian residency spots. This information was from various dental officers in their respective branches.

 

[vellnueve]

Can't speak for the Army or AF but the Navy does usually have a few outservice residents - particularly for Pedo/Ortho (when they're offered), OMFS, Endo, Perio, Prosth, as well as the operative dentists which are all outservice.

It depends on manpower levels and needs and changes every year.

 

[krmower]

I just received the Army HPSP scholarship and I'll be going to Penn. I definitely want to specialize at some point. I just have a couple of questions regarding the logistics of specializing with the Army HPSP scholarship.

1. What Army residencies could I do right after dental school? I've heard that some of the residencies require at least one year of service as a gp first.

2. Is it possible to do a civilian residency and then simply pay back your four years incurred for dental school as that specialist. For instance, if I wanted to become an orthodontist, could I do a civilian orthorthodontics residency and then work for the Army for four years afterwards?

There is no requirement to do a year as a GP first for any specialty. It's not a requirement that the Army has. It ends up being that way because MOST dental graduates have not completed OBLC before graduation and thus have to do it during the summer. Because of this they are not able to make the 1 July start date that ALL Army residencies begin on. The Army specialty programs select people 18 months in advance. For those officers on active duty it allows them time to get ready for the upcoming move (fit in military schools, trips, arrange for the move, deployments, etc...). For dental students it translates to working as a general dentist for a year. Again - this is not because they want you to gain a year of experience...it's just how the timing works out. The only time this is not the case is 1) If you have completed OBLC prior to graduation 2) If someone from the year prior that was selected for specialty drops out (thus their spot the summer you graduate is open).

1) Coming out of dental school you may apply for any available specialty that they designate that particular year is open to incoming graduates and direct accessions. Typically Pedo, Ortho, Endo, Oral Path, and Public Health are ones that they only let officers on active duty apply for.

2) No.

 

[thompsonae12]

When does the OBLC occur?

 

[krmower]

When does the OBLC occur?

It is offerred several times during the year. Most officers do it during the summer.

Depending on availability some people have been able to go the summer before dental school starts. Others have sometimes been able to work it in during one of their summers during dental school. Most take care of it after dental school.

 

[deleted371318]

Hi,
I will be a D1 student from this Fall and am preparing for HPSP application. Meanwhile I need your assistance for my questions.

1. Is the rate of stipend you get during the dental school (approx. $2000/month) before tax? If it is, how much will it be after tax?

2. Let's say you got into 3 yr scholarship program. At the end of the dental school, you could request to admin of whatever branch it is for 1 yr expansion. If qualified, you would be able to serve 4 year in a branch and they pay off for your all those 4 year school loans. Is it a possible scenario? Im asking this bc I already missed the 4 yr scholarship cycle and one recruiter actually told me he has seen such case before.

3. Are there any disadvantages if I apply for two of those? Like Army & AF? If there are, please tell me the reasons.

4. When I apply for 3 yr scholarship, do I also have to provide the grade I received from my D1?

5. I heard that many people choose to get into HPSP who want to specialize (except for some specialties though). Can you probably tell me the reasons for this? At this moment, I want to specialize pediatric dentistry but also wonder if it is good to go through HPSP.

6. If I will specialize, do you typically go to the specialty program after done with the required military service corresponding to the dental school years OR right after done with the dental school? Does it make any differences? Also, can you tell the major difference between the specialty program offered at one of the dental schools out there and the military one?

7. Is it optional whether to get loan repayment for my specialty program? Can I choose just not to serve for my branch to pay off my loan from the specialty program if I want to go start working as a civil dentist after the program?

8. Is it true that you still need to work as a paid doctor to get "more" ready, in order to have your own practice, even after the military service? Is its primary reason to get actual business know-how's while working as a paid doctor which are usually hard to earn during the service?

Any opinions/advice would be much appreciated and thanks in advance.

 

[drill-and-fill]

You already opened a thread to ask your questions, there's no need to hijack another thread to do the same thing.. smh

 

[deleted371318]

You already opened a thread to ask your questions, there's no need to hijack another thread to do the same thing.. smh

hey koreano it was my mistake. Im not trying to hijack or anything but just posted it by accident. Now no idea how to remove it though..

 

[coolslugs]

1) Coming out of dental school you may apply for any available specialty that they designate that particular year is open to incoming graduates and direct accessions. Typically Pedo, Ortho, Endo, Oral Path, and Public Health are ones that they only let officers on active duty apply for.

Is it still true that these specialties are only for officers already on active duty?

 

[AirborneDentist]

There is no requirement to do a year as a GP first for any specialty. It's not a requirement that the Army has. It ends up being that way because MOST dental graduates have not completed OBLC before graduation and thus have to do it during the summer. Because of this they are not able to make the 1 July start date that ALL Army residencies begin on. The Army specialty programs select people 18 months in advance. For those officers on active duty it allows them time to get ready for the upcoming move (fit in military schools, trips, arrange for the move, deployments, etc...). For dental students it translates to working as a general dentist for a year. Again - this is not because they want you to gain a year of experience...it's just how the timing works out. The only time this is not the case is 1) If you have completed OBLC prior to graduation 2) If someone from the year prior that was selected for specialty drops out (thus their spot the summer you graduate is open).

1) Coming out of dental school you may apply for any available specialty that they designate that particular year is open to incoming graduates and direct accessions. Typically Pedo, Ortho, Endo, Oral Path, and Public Health are ones that they only let officers on active duty apply for.

2) No.

Ortho is possible right out of dental school.

 

[wodehouse]

Ortho is possible right out of dental school.

It's also possible to get drafted into the NBA right out of high school, but the chances are small. I applied thinking of it like this: if I get in now or in a couple of years, it's still a 7 year journey with essentially the same end point. The upside of not getting picked is gaining the perspective from a few years of general dentistry to be sure a specialty is really what you want to do.

 

[AirborneDentist]

It's also possible to get drafted into the NBA right out of high school, but the chances are small. I applied thinking of it like this: if I get in now or in a couple of years, it's still a 7 year journey with essentially the same end point. The upside of not getting picked is gaining the perspective from a few years of general dentistry to be sure a specialty is really what you want to do.

Well, there are 3 ortho positions available for training, and 2 of them were straight out of dental school last year.

I would say your chances are as good as any, provided you have a strong record.

 

[AirborneDentist]

Is it still true that these specialties are only for officers already on active duty?

All specialties are available out of school except pedo and public health. Otherwise, you can apply for any.