What’s it take to get an EM Residency?

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Homer Doughnuts

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Hi all, I am starting Med-School this August and I really want to do EM. I know that I’m getting the horse in front of the cart on this one but I just wanted to ask what it takes to get a competitive EM residency. I know that EM a field that a lot of people want to go into so what should I do in medical school to stand out during the match. And finally the inevitable question, what kind of USMLE scores do you need for EM? Thanks a lot, any advice is greatly appreciated.
 
Please see the FAQ above.
 
1. Get good grades (study is optional)
2. Do an EM rotation in your 4th year (early)
3. Apply
4. Try to have common sense. If you don't now, try to cultivate it.

I am not being sarcastic. Everybody has to do exactly the same thing. If you color within the lines better, though, and are an all right person (or, at least, not a total pain in the ass), you'll be "competitive" at "competitive" programs.
 
Apollyon said:
1. Get good grades (study is optional)
2. Do an EM rotation in your 4th year (early)
3. Apply
4. Try to have common sense. If you don't now, try to cultivate it.
5. Read the FAQ. This and similar questions are easily the most commonly asked questions here.
 
Although in the OP's defense we have never really addressed what to do if you are interested in EM from day 1.

[size=+1]I'm an MS-1. How do I get into a great EM residency?[/size]

So we've already addressed what to in years MS3 and 4, but what if you are some sort of sick trauma junkie from day 1? Here is a short list:

#1. Talk to attendings in the ED. They may have info on what research is going on that you can get involved in, when you can shadow, etc.

#2. Get involved in your Emergency medicine Interest Group (hence forth EMIG). They will help you develop other contacts and besides you learn to do fun stuff.

#3. Join ACEP and SAEM. AAEM if you wish. Absolutely join EMRA. Through their publications you can see what the important current issues in EM are and what type of research is going on.

#4. Do research. I mean really - most schools have some type of requirement anyway. Try to find something that will be published (with your name on it).

#5. Go to national meetings. You get to talk to Program Directors, schmooze, get in tight with attendings at your home program, and have fun. This one is really optional but most people say it's worth it for the fun alone.

#6. Do other medical things besides EM. Really, you have to make an informed decision anyway so you have to decide if the grass is really greener on the other side.

#7. Get good grades. They don't have to be great, but failing is a red flag for any specialty. AOA and Honors are always a feather in your cap.

I think that really describes what you can do in years 1 and 2 to be set up to be a stellar EM applicant. I doubt anyone does ALL of these things, of the list I would say most do 1,3,6,and 7. No doubt some of my peeps will come along and add to the list...

Casey
 
And please add it to the FAQ
 
Not to start a specialty flame war but I am wondering why you recomend joining SAEM at all (I have seen no real benefit since I joined last year) and what EMRA publications are you talking about. I get an ehhhh newsletter from them every few months or so and thats it. Why do you feel AAEM is only worth a, "if you want" rec. I feel AAEM is the best bang for the buck as a med student as you get JEM AND free registration to their Scientific Assembly.
Again let's not get into the fight going on right now on the emed-l serve. Just wanted to find out what I am missing with SAEM and/or share what your missing with AAEM.
 
It's pretty much just a matter of opinion, I don't have anything specific in mind. I've found both the EMRA newsletter and the website to be very helpful, but you certainly don't have to be a member to use the website. I think that membership in all three organizations helps show your interest come interview time. As far as AAEM is concerned, I just don't think it's very high up on the radar screen for PDs but again that's just my opinion. Remember these are recs for how to become an UBER applicant, and are not something that everyone must do!
 
drkp said:
Not to start a specialty flame war but I am wondering why you recomend joining SAEM at all (I have seen no real benefit since I joined last year) and what EMRA publications are you talking about. I get an ehhhh newsletter from them every few months or so and thats it. Why do you feel AAEM is only worth a, "if you want" rec. I feel AAEM is the best bang for the buck as a med student as you get JEM AND free registration to their Scientific Assembly.
Again let's not get into the fight going on right now on the emed-l serve. Just wanted to find out what I am missing with SAEM and/or share what your missing with AAEM.

The best, if not somewhat "sucking up" answer as to which to join, is that by joining all of the organizations you show an interest in EM and are certain to include the favorite organization of whoever reads your CV.

- H
 
Homer Doughnuts said:
I know that I’m getting the horse in front of the cart on this one

Isn't that where it's supposed to be?
 
Thanks a lot Seaglass that was some great advice. I really appreciate it.
 
USMLE I- 242
USMLE II- 235 (didn't take until Feb.)
Class rank- probably top 1/3, I really don't know
clinical in third year- honors in psych (that probably hurt me)
Pass in the rest (we don't have high pass)
Away in ER- high pass at albuquerque
Applied to 33
Turned down 8 interviews
Interviewed at 13
Ranked 12
Matched at #9

I was a little disappointed, but with the 98% positions filled in the match this year, I count myself lucky to have the opportunity to practice ER medicine.
 
Desperado said:
Wow!!! # 9!!! That honors in psych definitely hurt you.

This may be a dumb question, but why would an honors in psych hurt you when applying for a EM residency? (or were you being sarcastic?)
 
Future Doc B said:
This may be a dumb question, but why would an honors in psych hurt you when applying for a EM residency? (or were you being sarcastic?)
Yes, sarcasm. If you can tell the difference between us being serious vs. us not-being-serious, you may have the right personality for EM.
 
Sessamoid said:
Yes, sarcasm. If you can tell the difference between us being serious vs. us not-being-serious, you may have the right personality for EM.

so...now you're being serious...right?

Do I get in? 🙂
 
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