What should a tutor cover for verbal reasoning?

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Do you think a large grammar review including adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives is necessary? I can see where it might be helpful to some extent but this tutor recommends paying over $100 an hour and meeting 3 hours every week. So far we've had about 2 meetings. No pretest was given. Do you think this is likely or unlikely to be worth it? (I might ask to meet on a less frequent basis.)

Right now I'm getting crummy scores on VR after going through about every MCAT book published on that topic (prior to getting tutor). A tutor is necessary. Just wondering if this curriculum is on the right track or not?
 
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Do you think a large grammar review including adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives is necessary? I can see where it might be helpful to some extent but I am also paying over $100 an hour and meeting 3 hours every week. Do you think this is likely or unlikely to be worth it? (I might ask to meet on a less frequent basis.)

Right now I'm getting crummy scores on VR after going through about every MCAT book published on that topic (prior to getting tutor). A tutor is necessary. Just wondering if this curriculum is on the right track or not?

Unless you cannot read/write/speak english fluently, doing this would be a huge waste of time. A good tutor, especially one charging you that much $$, should be able to identify where your weaknesses lie and then come up with a study plan to help you improve. Focus on practicing your reading comprehension and critical thinking skills instead of improving your grammar.
 
Do you think a large grammar review including adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives is necessary? I can see where it might be helpful to some extent but this tutor recommends paying over $100 an hour and meeting 3 hours every week. So far we've had about 2 meetings. No pretest was given. Do you think this is likely or unlikely to be worth it? (I might ask to meet on a less frequent basis.)

Right now I'm getting crummy scores on VR after going through about every MCAT book published on that topic (prior to getting tutor). A tutor is necessary. Just wondering if this curriculum is on the right track or not?

No, totally useless. VR isn't about grammar and writing conventions. It's about reading a piece and being able to read and understand what is being said even outside of the text.
 
Back in the old days in small group teaching one exercise that seemed to help folks would be to give out several VR passages between each session, along with question stems, but with the answers removed. Between sessions the student's homework would be to come up with their own best (correct) answer and a second best (wrong) answer, that would be good enough for someone to fall for, for each question stem. This exercise can help you get a sense of how to decode question writer intentions. Writing multiple choice verbal reasoning questions is a kind of art, and the more you understand how it works the better. Also, the exercise gives a good starting point for discussion in tutorial.
 
Do you think a large grammar review including adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives is necessary? I can see where it might be helpful to some extent but this tutor recommends paying over $100 an hour and meeting 3 hours every week. So far we've had about 2 meetings. No pretest was given. Do you think this is likely or unlikely to be worth it? (I might ask to meet on a less frequent basis.)

Right now I'm getting crummy scores on VR after going through about every MCAT book published on that topic (prior to getting tutor). A tutor is necessary. Just wondering if this curriculum is on the right track or not?

What if the tutor plans to get into MCAT passages after I have the grammar down solid? Am I still getting sold unnecessary instruction?
 
What if the tutor plans to get into MCAT passages after I have the grammar down solid? Am I still getting sold unnecessary instruction?

Firstly, you might ask your tutor to give you their rationale for taking you through a grammar curriculum in preparation for a verbal reasoning exam. It may be that grammatical understanding can provide a useful tool for orientation if you are unaccustomed to complex sentences, but my own sense is that the actual process of communicating in language doesn't work that way. As an MCAT teacher my own approach has always been to encourage people to make the reading experience more direct and personal, less analytic, because reading is a kind of magic.

A book is made from a tree. It is an assemblage of flat, flexible parts (still called "leaves") imprinted with dark pigmented squiggles. One glance at it and you hear the voice of another person, perhaps someone dead for thousands of years. Across the millennia, the author is speaking, clearly and silently, inside your head, directly to you. Writing is perhaps the greatest of human inventions, binding together people, citizens of distant epochs, who never knew one another. Books break the shackles of time ― proof that humans can work magic. Writing is a kind of magic. - Carl Sagan

Grammar consists of the rules that speakers of a language apply subconsciously to govern the relationships of the sound patterns making up expression. For a fluent speaker, grammar works beneath the surface. It's not the content of an expression. Grammar isn't the author's intention. In the phenomenology of language the content is its referential, expressive and appellative dimensions, the sense of referring to external reality, expressing an internal state or point of view, or of posing a command or urging an action. This is what verbal reasoning is about. How deeply can you interact with the writing? Can you break through to understand the different levels of meaning, but grammar isn't an object of author's intention, except in some kinds of poetry and experimental fiction. Grammar refers to the rules underlying the language itself, which are a given. While there may be a discipline that involves working to improve grammatical understanding to exercise the cognitive skills underlying verbal reasoning in general, I am not aware of it. My own feeling is that to focus on grammatical rules is only going to add a layer of distracting content to an already stressful process.

In my opinion, you need to find a process, with a tutor or without, that enables you to practice and reflect on performance in such a way that leads to improvement. Try analyzing the questions you miss and asking yourself why, and try to improve your direct connection to the author in your reading. Imagine the passages you read were written for you. It's hard to see how studying grammar is relevant, but nobody here is privy to your tutor's strategy. For my part, I have never heard of such an approach.
 
Such treatment of grammar is not only unhelpful, but probably counterproductive. It teaches you to focus too much on how words are formed and how sentences are constructed, not on the message that the author is conveying.
 
Don't waste your time with a tutor. I spent the same amount of money on one, and it did absolutely nothing, and I'm out a couple of hundred dollars. Verbal isn't something that can be taught. You just have to get good on it on your own, to be honest.
 
Firstly, you might ask your tutor to give you their rationale for taking you through a grammar curriculum in preparation for a verbal reasoning exam. .

Tutor claims it's necessary to really understand adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives well. He said that it's impossible for him to explain why an answer is correct without using those exact terms. I suspect that IT IS possible to explain the answers without using complicated jargon or words like, "gerund" "adverb phrase" etc. English is my 1st and most fluent language. I was born and grew up here in the USA. On the other hand, the tutor had English as his 2nd language (possibly relevant to his approach). He's also very advanced, I think he's a higher up at an ivy league school (again since that could be relevant to why he's approaching VR this way). Still he wants to meet 3 hours a week at a rate of over $100 an hour. I REALLY want help but suspect this is a rip off.
 
Tutor claims it's necessary to really understand adverb phrases, gerunds, appositives, participles, and infinitives well. He said that it's impossible for him to explain why an answer is correct without using those exact terms. I suspect that IT IS possible to explain the answers without using complicated jargon or words like, "gerund" "adverb phrase" etc. English is my 1st and most fluent language. I was born and grew up here in the USA. On the other hand, the tutor had English as his 2nd language (possibly relevant to his approach). He's also very advanced, I think he's a higher up at an ivy league school (again since that could be relevant to why he's approaching VR this way). Still he wants to meet 3 hours a week at a rate of over $100 an hour. I REALLY want help but suspect this is a rip off.

Dump this tutor ASAP! there is another verbal tutor who advertises his services on the classifieds section and has plenty of positive reviews. check him out instead. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=895125
 
Listen, while I may not be the best person to answer this question giving my own verbal struggles:

You do not have the time nor the money to make this strategy worthwhile. Get rid of that tutor immediately. He/she does not have a clue about the MCAT Verbal. Actually before getting rid of that particular tutor ask him/her the basis for his/her approach. Wish I could really help, but I am just as bad at verbal, but I am sure that this tutor's approach is not the problem. Later.
 
Give the guy a timed VR section and see how he does. Serious.

From what you've said, it seems the guy doesn't fully grasp what the section is looking for. You're wasting money in the mean time.
 
Hey guys;
I was originally registered for 4/27 then switched to 4/26 then to 6/20 and I am applying this cycle. I have been using BR and EK 101 for verbal I finished the first 9 tests on EK with a 7 average!! I also finished the TPR verbal. any advice? I am thinking of getting a tutor for verbal, any advice on this too?? I even went back to my English college professor and she found it hard too!!! please help I want to apply this year. I am fully dedicated to this test, I am not working or anything, only MCATTT!!
 
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