What type of schooling did you do to become a psychiatrist?

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*Primarily Looking for answers from anyone who majored in psychology to become a psychiatrist, but any answers from any type of psychiatrist is fine*

I'm currently in college majoring in psychology to become a child/adolescent psychiatrist. Many people have told me to major in pre-Med but I know I won't excel in that major because of the difficult science courses, so I decided to do something I'm more interested in, psychology.

Anyways, as I'm looking through med school admission requirements, I see most of them require science courses. How am I going to get into any med school w/o the proper science courses if I don't want to major in pre-med and deal with the science classes?

What type of schooling did you go through to become a psychiatrist?
 
How am I going to get into any med school w/o the proper science courses if I don't want to major in pre-med and deal with the science classes?
You don't have to major in pre-med to take the courses. You do have to have taken the courses to qualify for med school. No way around that.
 
*Primarily Looking for answers from anyone who majored in psychology to become a psychiatrist, but any answers from any type of psychiatrist is fine*

I'm currently in college majoring in psychology to become a child/adolescent psychiatrist. Many people have told me to major in pre-Med but I know I won't excel in that major because of the difficult science courses, so I decided to do something I'm more interested in, psychology.

Anyways, as I'm looking through med school admission requirements, I see most of them require science courses. How am I going to get into any med school w/o the proper science courses if I don't want to major in pre-med and deal with the science classes?

What type of schooling did you go through to become a psychiatrist?

I majored in a foreign language / culture discipline. IMO, there is no better undergrad major for medicine in general, or psychiatry in particular, than immersion in a foreign culture and language, a major that requires discipline, listening skills, and empathy.

I am not sure what a "pre-med" major is. Lots of traditional students major in biology, or chemistry, I guess, but that is not necessary. And regardless, one has to take the pre-reqs, either as part of a degree program, or as electives, or in a post bacc setting.

I did not decide to apply to med school until a couple of years after college. So I did a formal post bacc program to take the med school pre reqs.
 
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Major doesn't matter, but your GPA will matter. All medical schools require science classes and you'll need them to do well on the MCAT, which is also a necessity. The first wo years of medical school is all science classes that are significantly harder (in terms of volume of information only) than anything I had to do in undergrad as engineering major.

Bare minimum you need: Gen Chem (2 semesters), Physics (two semesters), Biology (two semesters), and Organic Chemistry (two semesters). Not just any physics or bio but the "pre-med" courses. I'd also recommend taking biochemistry so it won't all be new to you in medical school. You need two semesters of English courses as well.

I majored in biomedical engineering. I had to take an extra semester of English and an extra semester of Orgo after college. The post bac programs are good because they give you everything you need and maybe a masters, which can help your app.
 
*Primarily Looking for answers from anyone who majored in psychology to become a psychiatrist, but any answers from any type of psychiatrist is fine*

I'm currently in college majoring in psychology to become a child/adolescent psychiatrist. Many people have told me to major in pre-Med but I know I won't excel in that major because of the difficult science courses, so I decided to do something I'm more interested in, psychology.

Anyways, as I'm looking through med school admission requirements, I see most of them require science courses. How am I going to get into any med school w/o the proper science courses if I don't want to major in pre-med and deal with the science classes?

What type of schooling did you go through to become a psychiatrist?

Becoming a psychiatrist means becoming a physician, so you have to do all those hard science classes that all the other future doctor people have to do to get admitted. We don't get a pass on the science classes. Certainly you can major in whatever you want, including psychology, but you've got to take and do well in a lot of science classes. Medical schools also look at both your science gpa and your overall gap in making admission decisions. So, fortunately or unfortunately, you've got to be able to do well in some tough science classes to be a psychiatrist. Being pre-med and being a non-science major is doable, but it will cut into some of your elective options. Does your college have a premed advisor? They can help you put together a sequence of courses. The big thing is to be mindful of the sequential courses -- for example, you need one year to general chemistry followed by one year or organic chemistry, which means you want to get the general chemistry year done by your sophomore year at the latest assuming you're planning on graduating in 4 years and applying to med school as a senior. Also look into summer school options.
 
This is the same author that gave us the hit-single http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/psychiatry-or-nursing.1161946/#post-16929117 just a week or so ago.

Kayhend you need to stop posting, and start reading.

With no background, family, friends or mentors helping or guiding me, I was able to learn absolutely everything I would ever need to know about not only the differences between Psychology and Psychiatry, the process to gaining admission to graduate school versus medical school, and the professional outcomes of both. I did all of this by searching this very website, and the hardest part was finding this website. You already got past the hard part. If i can do it, you can do it.
 
I'm CLEARLY asking for other people to comment on what type of schooling they went through. Please do not come on here being rude when I'm just asking a question. YES I did post previous posts, SO WHAT? If you're tired of me posting just skip over my threads and go on with your life because I CLEARLY don't care!
 
I'm CLEARLY asking for other people to comment on what type of schooling they went through. Please do not come on here being rude when I'm just asking a question. YES I did post previous posts, SO WHAT? If you're tired of me posting just skip over my threads and go on with your life because I CLEARLY don't care!

Everyone who becomes a PSYCHIATRIST had the same minimum schooling: a. All medical school science class requirements (minimum bio, chem including organic, and physics) b. a passable MCAT score (information learned from those science class requirements) and c. graduating from medical school.

After that, everyone who is a psychiatrist can have all sorts of different routes whether its traditional (straight to med school) or non-traditional (10 years working as a lawyer before a career change for example).

To answer the question "How am I going to get into any med school w/o the proper science courses if I don't want to major in pre-med and deal with the science classes?" YOU CANNOT. Its silly to think you can get into medical school if you won't do the REQUIREMENTS. Its silly to think that you can get into medical school if you won't do the pre- med (i.e. pre-medical school work). Pre-med is BY DEFINITION "before med." If you can't do that, you can't do med.
 
I'm CLEARLY asking for other people to comment on what type of schooling they went through. Please do not come on here being rude when I'm just asking a question. YES I did post previous posts, SO WHAT? If you're tired of me posting just skip over my threads and go on with your life because I CLEARLY don't care!

Although there are certainly some of us (in psychiatry) who had the field as a goal before or during college / pre-med, the majority of us discovered psychiatry during medical school. (I am one of the few who decided to attend med school after college, and I had to go back and take the pre reqs).

The point, as others have made but you don't seem to understand: you go through the hell of pre-med classes, MCAT, etc., because your goal is to become a physician, first. There are no short cuts to med school, and as a result, no short cuts to psychiatry. There is no path to psychiatry that doesn't first go through the undergrad meat grinder of the pre reqs, MCAT, extracurriculars, etc.

I wish you good luck, but you need a lot more than luck to make it. My guess is that for every undergrad student who fancies himself "pre med," only about 1 in 10 actually make it...the hurdles are very high. How do I get to that 1 in 10 number? For every 10 freshman pre-meds, at least half to 2/3 drop the idea in the first couple of semesters after they bomb out (meaning they make less than Bs) in the science courses, or they decide they hate it too much to continue.

Organic Chem is the ultimate back breaker for many pre-meds, and the problem is that because of the sequencing of the other pre-reqs you have to take, it is unlikely you will even take the first O-chem until junior year...that is pretty deep into college to discover you really don't have what it takes. If you have been majoring in "pre med" up to this point, you have kind of screwed yourself for jobs after college, and maybe even other professional or grad school options if you have a poor GPA.

Of the remainder who stay the course and apply (say 4 of the original 10), at least half of them are tilting at windmills and will never make it - these are the people who apply multiple cycles with substandard grades and weak MCAT scores and never get in. And finally, of the ones who have the "right stuff" on paper (minimum 3.7 GPA, 32 MCAT), only about half of them get accepted to med school. So even if you get to the application stage and have the grades, and a decent MCAT, it is STILL difficult to get accepted to medical school.

Finally, there are some factors beyond your control, like the state you are a resident of when applying to med school. Some states are much more competitive admissions-wise than others...and some have a much lower hurdle. Read up on it...you should be spending the bulk of your time on SDN on the pre-allo forums to learn about the med school admissions game - that is where I learned the ropes. Beyond what you have already been told here, you are wasting your time asking the same question over and over on this forum.
 
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Get a degree that will give you a well rounded experience. Living life will be more useful than a "degree" in doing psychiatry. In addition to the pre-req's, learn to be a critical thinker and develop pattern recognition skills.

I second this. I was a psychology major, but originally was a chemistry major. I changed because I found actually thinking about things critically to be more enjoyable than memorizing stuff. Someone once told me that psychiatry is basically, "applied philosophy" and that's not too far off. Develop those thinking skills, because they're very important for psychiatry and medicine in general. Too many doctors follow algorithms and never think critically about things. It's a travesty.
 
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