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For non-trad students who have decided to go for a full Post-bacc (meaning they have not taken any of the pre-req science courses in undergrad study) or have already completed their post bacc, please state the answers to the following:

1. What was/is the duration of the post-bacc program?
2. What classes were taken in each semester? Please provide feedback on the specific courses as well.
3. Do you work full/part-time ? If full-time, how much time did you spend studying if you took more than 1 class a semester?
4. How many hours of volunteering/shadowing were you able to do weekly?.

If you have completed your post-bacc and have applied to medical school or have already been accepted, please answer the following:

5. At what point during your post-bacc studies did you start studying for the MCAT?
6. Do you have any tips/course sequence recommendations that you would like to share?

Thanks for your time, really appreciate it.
 
Partial postbac, since I had general chemistry and physics already done from my undergrad.

1. 3 years long, I'm two years in, about to apply.
2. Summer 2011 I took two quarters of a&p, then 2011-2012 school year I took organic chemistry with lab. Summer of 2012 I finished the a&p sequence. 2012-13 school year I took biochemistry. I also took English literature fall 2012. I'm planning on taking biology the 2013-14 school year.
3. Work full time. Took one class a semester except for that one semester of English lit plus biochemistry. Lit was a joke, so it was all biochemistry for me!
4. Volunteer 2-3 hr per week. No shadowing, but I'd done that before organic, because I wanted to make sure it was worth the trouble. Anyone who says you need more than 80 hours total is probably full of it.
5. I started studying at a low level towards the end of organic, and finished towards the end of biochemistry a year later.
6. Biochemistry helped for the mcat, so did a&p. In fact, I took the mcat with those classes but without general biology and scored a 13 on the bs section.

Good luck
 
Partial postbac, since I had general chemistry and physics already done from my undergrad.

1. 3 years long, I'm two years in, about to apply.
2. Summer 2011 I took two quarters of a&p, then 2011-2012 school year I took organic chemistry with lab. Summer of 2012 I finished the a&p sequence. 2012-13 school year I took biochemistry. I also took English literature fall 2012. I'm planning on taking biology the 2013-14 school year.
3. Work full time. Took one class a semester except for that one semester of English lit plus biochemistry. Lit was a joke, so it was all biochemistry for me!
4. Volunteer 2-3 hr per week. No shadowing, but I'd done that before organic, because I wanted to make sure it was worth the trouble. Anyone who says you need more than 80 hours total is probably full of it.
5. I started studying at a low level towards the end of organic, and finished towards the end of biochemistry a year later.
6. Biochemistry helped for the mcat, so did a&p. In fact, I took the mcat with those classes but without general biology and scored a 13 on the bs section.

Good luck

Hey, thanks for your input. Question about the a&p classes you took during the summer..were these courses condensed into a 5 week schedule? If so, did you feel overwhelmed with all the studying you must have had to do?
 
Hey, thanks for your input. Question about the a&p classes you took during the summer..were these courses condensed into a 5 week schedule? If so, did you feel overwhelmed with all the studying you must have had to do?

Courses were condensed but I did not feel overwhelmed. Where I'm doing my pb a&p is a health sciences major course that doesn't even count for bio majors. I took it to see if I'd like medicine, and finished it because a certain state school has an anatomy requirement. Fortunate for me they dumbed it down just enough to be easy for a class but just rigorous enough for mcat 🙂
 
For non-trad students who have decided to go for a full Post-bacc (meaning they have not taken any of the pre-req science courses in undergrad study) or have already completed their post bacc, please state the answers to the following:

My story is a bit different than what you're asking as I do a Post Bacc, and Community College. I have taken some sciences in undergrad, Gen Chem and Bio I and II, but still need Physics, Gen Chem II, Organic I and II and Biochem. I still wanted to reply to give a different persective.

1. What was/is the duration of the post-bacc program? It is a 2 -3 year program It used to be a certificate granting program, but they have made it a Bachelors. It's a neat program. They do internships which allow for shadowing, and also independent study which varies from 1-6 credit hours, which I plan to use as a time to get into a research lab.

2. What classes were taken in each semester? Please provide feedback on the specific courses as well. I take one class a semester. Now I take one class Gen Chem II, it's an 8 week accelerated program. I take summers off to work OT to save $ for an MCAT prep course. In the fall, I will take an accelerated O.Chem 1 and 2. So the semester which is originally 16 weeks, the two courses will be divided into 8 weeks a piece. So I'm knocking both out this fall. But this is done at another school. They are the only one's who do this to my knowledge in my area. Those will be my only courses in the fall. In the spring, I will take Physics I, Law and Medicine and Topics of US Healthcare. I have a degree plan, but I pick and choose, so I can't really tell you exactly term by term. They have unique sciences such as "Bones, Bodies and Disease". Eukaryotic and Cell Molecular, Neuroanatomy, Neuroscience, etc. These are off the top of my head....

3. Do you work full/part-time ? If full-time, how much time did you spend studying if you took more than 1 class a semester? I work full time as an ER nurse. I work three days a week 7A-7P. Mostly work TH, FR, SAT.off Sun-Wed, so I use those days to study. The fall my classes are TU, TH, so I will work Mon, Fri, Sat., or maybe FR, SAT, SUN...still debating. I love church a lot, we will see.

4. How many hours of volunteering/shadowing were you able to do weekly?. I haven't "shadowed" because I am a RN, but if you include that, then 36 hours a week. I will be following my primary who is D.O, so that way I can be competitve for osteopathic schools as well.

The bottom doesn't apply to me just yet!!. 🙂 Still deciding on which version I will take.

If you have completed your post-bacc and have applied to medical school or have already been accepted, please answer the following:

5. At what point during your post-bacc studies did you start studying for the MCAT?
6. Do you have any tips/course sequence recommendations that you would like to share?

Thanks for your time, really appreciate it.
Hope this makes sense!
 
Great set of questions. I can tell you are definitely a non-trad post-bacc student. Good for you, and welcome aboard. Your questions are below in italics format, mine answers are below them

1. What was/is the duration of the post-bacc program?

Horrendously long. I started in 2004 and got accepted in 2012. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I got my BS Degree in 4 years, I did a double major and double minor, worked 20 hours a week for college work study program, plus I was very active in campus ministry, visited nursing homes, play guitar for charitable events, etc. I don't know how I did it, but pulling post-bacc was far more difficult.

2. What classes were taken in each semester? Please provide feedback on the specific courses as well.

I stuck to the basic requirements and that was it. I saw so need to take more than what MD schools required. For those schools who I felt were being unreasonable, I did not apply to them. My CV was plenty long as to what i brought to the table. My pre-reqs in my mind were more than sufficient for them to make a determination. And i was right.

3. Do you work full/part-time ? If full-time, how much time did you spend studying if you took more than 1 class a semester?

that's why my post-bacc was so darn long . I worked full time in a high-paying, demanding corporate job that sucked the life out of me. I registered for classes and dropped courses a few times. I had to repeat courses, threw alot of money at the school I attended (a state school), and was given alot of latitude by the Dean as a non-degree seeking student, getting over-rides to full classes and labs, etc Pulling a full time corporate job was thankless while doing post-bacc. Plus I had a family, house mortgage, had to entertain alot as a professional, etc. In some ways Post-Bacc was harder b/c I was juggling a thankless corporate monster that always wanted more, while I had to keep quiet about going to school. My bosses knew i was going to school but they made it impossible for me by sending me on trips often, ribbing me about going back to school at my age, and teasing me. they were *******s. Guess who is laughing now?

Medical school is "harder" in the sense of the volume of information and the stress. But all I do now is study and go to classes.
Post-Bacc was much harder b/c I had to be an adult and be part of society. MD school is surreal: you unplug from society, don't work a real job (if any), you don't keep up with current events, don't socialize much...it's like being a monk living in a cave. It is unrealistic in my opinion.

4. How many hours of volunteering/shadowing were you able to do weekly?.
Over the course of my life. I think that is why schools accepted me, other than meeting their requirements. Unlike many medical school applicants, I did not do volunteer work to prove something. I did it b/c it came from within. It was innate. I did it b/c of me, not to complete a tick off a list. By the time I applied to MD schools, I had a wealth of community involvement, activism, go-get 'em stuff, that my response to MD schools that did not accept me was "it's your loss". When I did choose a school, registered and went to and from classes my first semester, I was stopped by one of the physician professors in the school library. He was on my interview committee. He told me he was very impressed with my community activism, maturity and pushed for me b/c he wanted me to influence the younger students. Initially I was flattered. In time I came to see his wish as a burden. In a matter of months I adopted the attitude that if the young students wanted to get to know me, I was here for the asking. But i was not going to go out of my way to disciple, mentor nor influence them. They would have to seek it and demonstrate why I should invest time in them. I am not in MD school for them; I am here for me

If you have completed your post-bacc and have applied to medical school or have already been accepted, please answer the following:

5. At what point during your post-bacc studies did you start studying for the MCAT?


day one. But it was haphazard for reasons already stated above. I sat down in earnest 3 months prior to my MCAT. It did the job for me.

6. Do you have any tips/course sequence recommendations that you would like to share?

I lived and swear by Exam Krackers. Those bozos are pretty funny and right on the money.
I used to listen to the Audio Osmosis recordings over and over in the gym, while driving, at the grocery store, or walking the dog.

But that's just what worked from me and it probably will not work for you since we are all very different.

keep at it. You'll get it all figured out eventually. It is not easy. And I have no regrets whatsoever. Life is grand.
We are waiting for you

salut!
 
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Great set of questions. I can tell you are definitely a non-trad post-bacc student. Good for you, and welcome aboard. Your questions are below in italics format, mine answers are below them

1. What was/is the duration of the post-bacc program?

Horrendously long. I started in 2004 and got accepted in 2012. On the opposite side of the spectrum, I got my BS Degree in 4 years, I did a double major and double minor, worked 20 hours a week for college work study program, plus I was very active in campus ministry, visited nursing homes, play guitar for charitable events, etc. I don't know how I did it, but pulling post-bacc was far more difficult.

2. What classes were taken in each semester? Please provide feedback on the specific courses as well.

I stuck to the basic requirements and that was it. I saw so need to take more than what MD schools required. For those schools who I felt were being unreasonable, I did not apply to them. My CV was plenty long as to what i brought to the table. My pre-reqs in my mind were more than sufficient for them to make a determination. And i was right.

3. Do you work full/part-time ? If full-time, how much time did you spend studying if you took more than 1 class a semester?

that's why my post-bacc was so darn long . I worked full time in a high-paying, demanding corporate job that sucked the life out of me. I registered for classes and dropped courses a few times. I had to repeat courses, threw alot of money at the school I attended (a state school), and was given alot of latitude by the Dean as a non-degree seeking student, getting over-rides to full classes and labs, etc Pulling a full time corporate job was thankless while doing post-bacc. Plus I had a family, house mortgage, had to entertain alot as a professional, etc. In some ways Post-Bacc was harder b/c I was juggling a thankless corporate monster that always wanted more, while I had to keep quiet about going to school. My bosses knew i was going to school but they made it impossible for me by sending me on trips often, ribbing me about going back to school at my age, and teasing me. they were *******s. Guess who is laughing now?

Medical school is "harder" in the sense of the volume of information and the stress. But all I do now is study and go to classes.
Post-Bacc was much harder b/c I had to be an adult and be part of society. MD school is surreal: you unplug from society, don't work a real job (if any), you don't keep up with current events, don't socialize much...it's like being a monk living in a cave. It is unrealistic in my opinion.

4. How many hours of volunteering/shadowing were you able to do weekly?.
Over the course of my life. I think that is why schools accepted me, other than meeting their requirements. Unlike many medical school applicants, I did not do volunteer work to prove something. I did it b/c it came from within. It was innate. I did it b/c of me, not to complete a tick off a list. By the time I applied to MD schools, I had a wealth of community involvement, activism, go-get 'em stuff, that my response to MD schools that did not accept me was "it's your loss". When I did choose a school, registered and went to and from classes my first semester, I was stopped by one of the physician professors in the school library. He was on my interview committee. He told me he was very impressed with my community activism, maturity and pushed for me b/c he wanted me to influence the younger students. Initially I was flattered. In time I came to see his wish as a burden. In a matter of months I adopted the attitude that if the young students wanted to get to know me, I was here for the asking. But i was not going to go out of my way to disciple, mentor nor influence them. They would have to seek it and demonstrate why I should invest time in them. I am not in MD school for them; I am here for me

If you have completed your post-bacc and have applied to medical school or have already been accepted, please answer the following:

5. At what point during your post-bacc studies did you start studying for the MCAT?


day one. But it was haphazard for reasons already stated above. I sat down in earnest 3 months prior to my MCAT. It did the job for me.

6. Do you have any tips/course sequence recommendations that you would like to share?

I lived and swear by Exam Krackers. Those bozos are pretty funny and right on the money.
I used to listen to the Audio Osmosis recordings over and over in the gym, while driving, at the grocery store, or walking the dog.

But that's just what worked from me and it probably will not work for you since we are all very different.

keep at it. You'll get it all figured out eventually. It is not easy. And I have no regrets whatsoever. Life is grand.
We are waiting for you

salut!

wow, thanks for sharing. How difficult is it for you to manage some family time with all the studying you have to do? I'm sure they are supportive, but do you sometimes feel bad that you're not spending as much time with them now as before?

Also, it might be early, but do you have a preference yet on what medical specialty to go into?

Thanks again
 
wow, thanks for sharing. How difficult is it for you to manage some family time with all the studying you have to do? I'm sure they are supportive, but do you sometimes feel bad that you're not spending as much time with them now as before?

All the time, and it plagued me my first semester. However, they also knew I had no choice given the previous career's toll on me/us. I was miserable and so were they watching me.
Given the way Corporate America chews, spits and grinds people just for sport, it just wasn't an option anymore. You have to work in that setting to understand how detrimental, toxic and unloving it is to yourself and your family to sell your soul to Corporate America. You/they deserve better. I had to reinvent myself somehow. So it was either this or "Auto Universe" (quote from "Devil Wear's Prada")

Also, it might be early, but do you have a preference yet on what medical specialty to go into?
Thanks again

I have a few ideas, and I also have a few job offers from medical groups that used to be part of my client portfolio base. They keep in touch with me. But that's a ways from now though.

When people ask me: "what type of doctor you want to be?", my answer is straight forward without missing a beat: "the best damn doctor I can be".

I would be happy with that, to be honest.
 
1. What was/is the duration of the post-bacc program?

18 months (3 semesters + 2 summers)

2. What classes were taken in each semester? Please provide feedback on the specific courses as well.

Spring 2011: Bio 1, Chem 1, algebra, med terminology
Summer 2011: Genetics
Fall 2011: Bio 2, Organic 1, Physics 1
Spring 2012: Chem 2, Organic 2, Physics 2
Summer 2012: Biostats, Biochem

3. Do you work full/part-time ? If full-time, how much time did you spend studying if you took more than 1 class a semester?

PT (25-30 hrs/wk)

4. How many hours of volunteering/shadowing were you able to do weekly?.

3-6 hrs/wk between the two activities

If you have completed your post-bacc and have applied to medical school or have already been accepted, please answer the following:

5. At what point during your post-bacc studies did you start studying for the MCAT?

I started casually studying summer 2011 (10 months), then got hardcore 5 months prior.

6. Do you have any tips/course sequence recommendations that you would like to share?

I hadn't taken a math course since calc in high school (about 9 years). As lame as I felt, it really helped to take that algebra course. I regularly found myself helping a couple of other non-trads w/ basic algebra in Physics.

Good luck!
 
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