What would this count as?

[coolcucumber91]

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This is probably a dumb question, but would shadowing researchers (not doctors) testing a Parkinson's patient do a series of activities to gather data about her motor neurons, etc. considered clinical experience, since she is a patient. We're not treating her though. Also, what about going to a lab and watch the researchers use and EEG on a patient to gather data? Or would these all go under research hours (the researchers are in my lab) and not mentioned individually?

 

[gmcguitar4]

I would say none of this is research/clinical exp/or even shadowing.

For research YOU have to be collecting data/analyzing it... and for clinical YOU have to be interacting with the patients.

For shadowing you need a physician to follow, not a researcher.

 

[ppfizenm]

This is probably a dumb question, but would shadowing researchers (not doctors) testing a Parkinson's patient do a series of activities to gather data about her motor neurons, etc. considered clinical experience, since she is a patient. We're not treating her though. Also, what about going to a lab and watch the researchers use and EEG on a patient to gather data? Or would these all go under research hours (the researchers are in my lab) and not mentioned individually?

I think Lizzy M said if you can smell patients it's considered shadowing. I don't know what you application is lacking in but this sounds like clinical research actually so put it in where your application needs it.

 

[gettheleadout]

If you're not assisting the researchers in some way or being trained I would not consider this research involvement nor volunteering of any sort, and as they are not providing care it cannot be considered physician shadowing either. While the experience may be interesting and beneficial, not everything you do can or should be listed on your application.

 

[LizzyM]

If you can smell patients, it is a clinical experience. However, a person with a chronic disease is not a "patient" during their every moment. (If it were so you could babysit kids with asthma and call in clinical volunteering.) In your case, it sounds like you are observing clinical research. You might add a description of this activity when you describe your lab work if it informed your work or put it in context.