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I'm writing to get some input from someone other than my immediate family.

I'm a non-traditional applicant with strong clinical research experience and decent stats (3.27 undergrad, 3.71 post-bacc, ~3.5 science, 33 MCAT), as well as some excellent volunteer work and a year's worth of experience as a medical assistant. I have the advantages of the strong support of my letter-writers, and legacy at no less than four medical schools. I'm not an ideal MD applicant but I think I have a shot at getting into a decent MD program.

At the same time, my father is a podiatrist with a very successful practice in northern California and he wants nothing more than for me to take it over one day. I've spent a lot of time at his practice and I love it. I can see myself being very happy there, and it seems like the path to get there would be relatively smooth.

If you got in to both an MD program and a DPM program, and you had a promise for a successful podiatry practice in an ideal location but no similar assurance for a medical specialty, which would you choose? Sorry if this is a weirdly specific thing to ask. I just need to hear from someone other than my parents on this, so I seriously appreciate your opinions.
 
RachelElizabeth said:
I'm writing to get some input from someone other than my immediate family.

I'm a non-traditional applicant with strong clinical research experience and decent stats (3.27 undergrad, 3.71 post-bacc, ~3.5 science, 33 MCAT), as well as some excellent volunteer work and a year's worth of experience as a medical assistant. I have the advantages of the strong support of my letter-writers, and legacy at no less than four medical schools. I'm not an ideal MD applicant but I think I have a shot at getting into a decent MD program.

At the same time, my father is a podiatrist with a very successful practice in northern California and he wants nothing more than for me to take it over one day. I've spent a lot of time at his practice and I love it. I can see myself being very happy there, and it seems like the path to get there would be relatively smooth.

If you got in to both an MD program and a DPM program, and you had a promise for a successful podiatry practice in an ideal location but no similar assurance for a medical specialty, which would you choose? Sorry if this is a weirdly specific thing to ask. I just need to hear from someone other than my parents on this, so I seriously appreciate your opinions.
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It seems that you're basically guaranteed a certain level of success with the security of your father's practice. If you take that out of the equation, and the obvious fact that you'd make your parents extremely happy, you simply have to do what you believe will ultimately make YOU the happiest in the long run.

You don't want to ever look back with regrets, so you must place your happiness as your priority, and only you can answer that question.
 
This post made me think of the quote from Step Brothers

"- Because he said he wanted to join the family business.
- But you're a medical doctor.
- Believe me, I've told him that."

Anyways, if you can see yourself being happy in practice, I would jump at that opportunity like crazy! Why dabble in maybes or possibilities when you said yourself that you would be happy there!

The only drawback that I could foresee happening is your father's practice might be a burden after Pod school. I don't know what type of practice he has - what his "avg patient" is. Is he in surgery three days a week or zero? Based on your other post, he does very well for himself financially, so he probably has a good scope of practice. I guess this is just a long winded way of saying, even though you like your dad's practice, I'd shadow some other pods in town to see how their practices run - just in case the scope of your father's practice isn't exactly what you want. That being said, you could always try to change his practice once you work there...

Overall, DPM all the way. What does your cardiologist mom suggest?
 
I'm with PADPM, take the family practice out of the equation and decide which career will make you happy. It's not like you'll be hurting for a job coming out as an MD, and it sounds like you'll do great with podiatry as well. It's also not assured going into MD school that you will get the residency you want either... you may be a family doctor, obgyn, or whatever else. Would you be happier being a podiatrist, or being another kind of doctor. Whatever you'll be happier with in the end is what you should do. If it comes down to you equally liking both, then go Podiatry! Everyone's happy.
 
I also had stats competitive enough for an MD program but would have taken me probably a few tries to get in. I didn't get in the first cycle, but I knew I wanted to be working with my hands and to be performing surgical procedures. Naturally, the next step for me was to start podiatry school and I love it here 🙂
 
Wow, thanks to all of you for the honest, supportive answers! You all make really good points.

PADPM and sorham -- if I take the prospect of my father's practice out of the equation, I start leaning towards MD. There are just more options for practicing and more opportunities for research, and I'd like to be able to conduct research for at least a few years. At the same time, the MD path scares me because it's so insane and competitive. The thought of competing for internships, residencies, research funding, and jobs scares the crap out of me. I'm just worried that I'll end up stuck with something I don't want, or living somewhere I don't want to be. I've spent a total of six years living in St. Louis, where I have no family and no real support system, and now I know how important it is to have family within reach.

MaxillofacialMN -- I totally agree that a relatively sure bet sounds SUPER appealing, and I love how his practice is set up. He has two other pods with him in a huge office. He does office visits and in-office procedures three days a week and surgery 1.5 days a week. His patient population is pretty well balanced. And! A new pod is going to be joining their practice soon and his "thing" is wound care, so most of the really persistent wounds are going to go to him (wound care was always my least favorite part of podiatry). On top of that, the practice is located in the southern part of the bay area, which happens to be gorgeous. It seems silly to give all that up. I honestly don't know what to do. My mom isn't being super helpful on this. She says don't limit your options if you aren't sure, but she also readily admits that my dad has a much better deal than she does. MD specialists are getting squeezed and it's only going to get worse.

AttackNME -- thanks for the input, it sounds like you made the right choice!

I just keep going back on forth on this. I know I don't have to make a decision anytime soon, but there's yet another complicating factor that's making things hard. My dad is buddies with the dean at NYCPM, who said I might be able to get in for THIS SEPTEMBER if I get an application in right away. Starting this fall instead of waiting out the year-long application cycle sounds pretty awesome... I don't know though. Thoughts?

And seriously I am SO GRATEFUL that you all are so open to talk about this stuff.
 
PADPM said:
It seems that you're basically guaranteed a certain level of success with the security of your father's practice. If you take that out of the equation, and the obvious fact that you'd make your parents extremely happy, you simply have to do what you believe will ultimately make YOU the happiest in the long run.

You don't want to ever look back with regrets, so you must place your happiness as your priority, and only you can answer that question.
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This is the best advice anyone can give you.

In another post you mentioned that your father makes in the order of 400K per year, which is more than your mother makes as a Cardiologist. Those are some nice numbers to walk into, especially if you know (think) you will be happy in the medical field.

Again, though, only you can make the decision that you feel will make you the happiest in the long run.

Good luck!
 
Is your father offering to hand over his practice to you without having to buy into it? A $400,000 net practice in the Bay Area? Talk about a golden egg.

Oh my God take the deal!
 
Rachel could your father hire me in a decade if I do decide to go through with Podiatry

joking, just do what your want to do
 
Rachel,

1) First of all, by the way you write and your thought process and maturity, I HOPE you choose podiatry. Our profession could use more like you.

2) You mentioned that your father works "with" 2 other DPM's and that they just hired another young doc to take care of the majority of the wound care. How is this practice structured? Is your father the sole owner? Is he a partner/equal partner, senior partner? Are the other docs associates?

3) You are at LEAST 7 years away from joining his practice. During that time, IF these other docs are presently associates, will they become partners/shareholders in the practice? If that's the case, then that MAY change your "complete" security in the future. Although your future will still certainly be secure, if your father has partners and isn't the sole (no pun intended) decision maker, it may have an impact on your salary and future shares in the company.

4) As the practice grows during the next 7 years, there may be a need to add an additional doctor or doctors. What will be their role prior to you getting there or AFTER you get there? I think it's safe to say you're not going to simply walk in and "take over" as the boss's daughter!!!

Obviously, the opportunity can be incredible, but there are also other factors many forget to consider. It's rare that a practice is that successful and a son/daughter has the ability to simply walk in and take over. These types of practices usually have other doctors as partners, shareholders or associates which makes the situation a little more complicated.
 
PADPM said:
Rachel,

1) First of all, by the way you write and your thought process and maturity, I HOPE you choose podiatry. Our profession could use more like you.

2) You mentioned that your father works "with" 2 other DPM's and that they just hired another young doc to take care of the majority of the wound care. How is this practice structured? Is your father the sole owner? Is he a partner/equal partner, senior partner? Are the other docs associates?

3) You are at LEAST 7 years away from joining his practice. During that time, IF these other docs are presently associates, will they become partners/shareholders in the practice? If that's the case, then that MAY change your "complete" security in the future. Although your future will still certainly be secure, if your father has partners and isn't the sole (no pun intended) decision maker, it may have an impact on your salary and future shares in the company.

4) As the practice grows during the next 7 years, there may be a need to add an additional doctor or doctors. What will be their role prior to you getting there or AFTER you get there? I think it's safe to say you're not going to simply walk in and "take over" as the boss's daughter!!!

Obviously, the opportunity can be incredible, but there are also other factors many forget to consider. It's rare that a practice is that successful and a son/daughter has the ability to simply walk in and take over. These types of practices usually have other doctors as partners, shareholders or associates which makes the situation a little more complicated.
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These things...they work themselves out! LOL!

Good points from PADPM as usual (Rachel take the deal!).
 
I don't know how to say this without seeming like a jerk, but nepotism in an office has many ways of playing out.

If done correctly and respectfully it can really be a marvel for the right combination of father/mother and son/daughter. I've seen many situations where things worked out beautifully for all involved, and just as many situations where business relationships deteriorated rapidly when these situations were introduced.

PADPM is spot on. These things should be considered and explored BEFORE any firm commitments are made. The most successful type of this situation I saw was a classmate who eventually ended up working with his Dad, but man did he earn it. Top grades, top residency, and super nice guy. His Dad treated him like any new doc in a practice and he really worked his tail off to "earn" his keep. Now they are business partners and it's working out superbly for them. I just saw them at a recent conference I lectured at, and both independently expressed to me how well things were going and how happy everyone was with the outcome.
 
Kidsfeet said:
I don't know how to say this without seeming like a jerk, but nepotism in an office has many ways of playing out.

If done correctly and respectfully it can really be a marvel for the right combination of father/mother and son/daughter. I've seen many situations where things worked out beautifully for all involved, and just as many situations where business relationships deteriorated rapidly when these situations were introduced.

PADPM is spot on. These things should be considered and explored BEFORE any firm commitments are made. The most successful type of this situation I saw was a classmate who eventually ended up working with his Dad, but man did he earn it. Top grades, top residency, and super nice guy. His Dad treated him like any new doc in a practice and he really worked his tail off to "earn" his keep. Now they are business partners and it's working out superbly for them. I just saw them at a recent conference I lectured at, and both independently expressed to me how well things were going and how happy everyone was with the outcome.
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Yes, yes, very important considerations.

Would Lowell Weil Sr. & Jr. be a good example?
 
Yes, the Weils are apparently a great example. But I always wondered why Harold Schoenhaus's daughter (yes, Dr. Schoenhaus has a daughter who is a DPM), never went into practice with her dad. Considering that many consider him one of the pioneers and considering his successful practice, it's interesting that his daughter didn't enter his practice.

Interestingly, Schoenhaus and Weil Sr. are good friends, and with ALL the residencies in the country, Weil Jr. did Graduate in Philly many years ago when Schoenhaus was in charge. Although the program was 3 years, Weil Jr. left after the 2nd year to go work for his dad, and I'm not sure Schoenhaus was thrilled. That program no longer exists, and I believe Schoenhaus is working with the residents at Presby.
 
PADPM said:
But I always wondered why Harold Schoenhaus's daughter (yes, Dr. Schoenhaus has a daughter who is a DPM), never went into practice with her dad. Considering that many consider him one of the pioneers and considering his successful practice, it's interesting that his daughter didn't enter his practice.
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Word on the street at the time was that her husband/fiancee was looking at practicing in Florida and she preferred to get out of Philly and move to a warmer climate. That was the rumor mill about that situation at the time. I agree though, rather an odd outcome for sure.

I believe Harold does indeed work with the residents at Presby.
 
What about you PADPM, are your kids considering a medical career? Do any other attendings have kids considering (or already in) a medical career?

My eldest daughter says she wants to be an orthodontist (hallelujah!) but she's only nine so it doesn't mean a whole lot at this point.
 
My daughter says she wants to grow up to be a princess (she's almost 8), and my son says he wants to grow up to be The Hulk (he's 4). Our youngest doesn't know yet. She's one and a half. 😀
 
Great points, everyone. This is exactly why I posted here.

Ankle Breaker -- I love your username, btw -- you're spot on about feeling the pressure to get going. I graduated in 2008 and I'm starting to get really antsy, and the prospect of starting sooner rather than later is very appealing. That said, I don't want to do anything rash. I haven't decided but I'm thinking I'll probably wait and apply to both MD and DPM programs and see what happens.

PADPM, Kidsfeet, NatCh -- The situation is obviously more complex than can be fully expressed in an online forum. I'm aware that it isn't a perfect practice. My father started the practice and later made one other pod (one of the nicest guys I've ever met) an equal partner. I get along great with him. The third pod is a younger woman who I don't love but we've always managed to be civil to one another. She is an independent contractor and has no say in how the practice is run. The fourth pod will be brought in as an independent contractor as well, with the chance to be made a partner further down the line contingent upon his performance. I've never met this man, but my dad seems to like him.

I never expected my dad to just hand over the keys, so to speak. He's spent years building his practice and he respects his patients too much to let anyone take over without proving themselves. I'm also not entirely sure I want to walk out of residency right into a practice I might be tied to for the rest of my working life. All that said, the year I spent as a medical assistant was in his office and I really liked it. He and I work really well together. I wish we could get along that well outside the office! And his patients seemed to trust me. I didn't go a day without being asked whether I was going to follow in my father's footsteps and take over one day (he and I look a lot alike, it's hard not to figure out that we're related).

I'm aware that it isn't exactly a sure thing, but it's been my father's dream for a while and he has expressed that he'd do whatever he can to help make it happen if I am interested. My mother, on the other hand, is very close to retiring so I would have no such assurance as an MD, even if I ended up in cardiology. Even though I know it isn't a sure thing, I'm very attracted to the stability the DPM route might offer, and the lifestyle!

ANYWAY! I might be going to the Western with my dad next weekend, assuming we can get a cat-sitter. Will any of you be there?
 
RachelElizabeth said:
I might be going to the Western with my dad next weekend, assuming we can get a cat-sitter. Will any of you be there?
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No I won't watch your cat for you...

You know Rachel, based on nothing more than what you've written in your four posts on this site I get the feeling you're going to succeed no matter what you decide to do.
 
Kidsfeet said:
My daughter says she wants to grow up to be a princess (she's almost 8), and my son says he wants to grow up to be The Hulk (he's 4). Our youngest doesn't know yet. She's one and a half. 😀
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On being a parent:
1. Your daughter already is a princess (your princess) whether she knows it or not.
2. Your son is already a superhero (your superhero) whether he likes it or not.
3. Your youngest has a princess and a superhero for guidance so she has nothing to worry about.
 
Thanks NatCh, that's very nice of you to say! I've been very lucky and I've had a lot of support. So you'll be going to the Western? Also, is your avatar the Naftin mascot?
 
Hey Rachel,

There is no doubt that you are in a very fortunate situation. Many people on this forum would LOVE to be in the situation you are in. But with that said, go with your gut feeling. Both routes will give you the opportunity to be an GREAT doctor. Only you can really know what route is best for you. But I love podiatry and the more I learn about it, the more assured I am that I picked the right field. I'm soooooo glad you're coming to visit WesternU. What day are you coming? I'm a first year student and look forward to meeting you. If you have any questions feel free to message me. Good Luck
 
TimmyT -- It sounds like you definitely made the right choice! And, I'm really sorry for the confusion on this, I actually meant the Western Foot and Ankle Conference (http://www.thewestern.org/). Maybe I'll convince my dad that we should swing by Western U, though! It would be nice to meet some current podiatry students and see the campus...
 
NatCh said:
On being a parent:
1. Your daughter already is a princess (your princess) whether she knows it or not.
2. Your son is already a superhero (your superhero) whether he likes it or not.
3. Your youngest has a princess and a superhero for guidance so she has nothing to worry about.
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LOL very true!

After seeing the Royal Wedding, she wants to be a REAL Princess, not just my Princess!
My son wants to be a scientist and "invent The Hulk" for real!!
The youngest is the BOSS of the house dontcha know!

Back to the topic. Many I've known have been in this very fortunate position and have blown it. The OP doesn't seem like one of those people.
 
Here is an idea. Go to medical school. Work hard. Match ORS. FEllow in F/A. You get the best of both worlds. You give yourself the MD just in case you determine you like something better than F/A and you can still work F/A if it is for you. Simple choice. Go MD. My stats were not competitive for md. I'm not really a FP type of guy. I shadowed a ew and was bored out of my mine. I love being in the OR. Having a 3.2-3.4 and 26 mcat, I would not have gotten into MD and DO is designed for primary care, although surgery is an option. I chose podiatry due to the certainity of doing F/A surgery over maybe being a osteopathetic surgeon but probably a osteopathetic primary care physician.
 
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And after those 100 years, you can get a job!
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more like 4+5+1 =10 medical with the option to change at any point and do another field like gas/rad (3 yr residency just like podiatry) or 7 of podiatry and you must now love a specialty within f/a. 3 yrs of residency is nothing compared to getting the best job for you.
 
RachelElizabeth said:
TimmyT -- It sounds like you definitely made the right choice! And, I'm really sorry for the confusion on this, I actually meant the Western Foot and Ankle Conference (http://www.thewestern.org/). Maybe I'll convince my dad that we should swing by Western U, though! It would be nice to meet some current podiatry students and see the campus...
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The chair of the Western Conference this year is also the Dean of Curriculum here at WesternU. If you get a chance to speak with Dr. Labovitz, take it!

I know some of us from WesternU may go to the conference but we have a final on the following Monday so I don't know how many of us will actually show up. If I end up going, I'll shoot you a pm.

Oh and don't worry about TimmyT, he's easily confused:laugh:
 
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more like 4+5+1 =10 medical with the option to change at any point and do another field like gas/rad (3 yr residency just like podiatry) or 7 of podiatry and you must now love a specialty within f/a. 3 yrs of residency is nothing compared to getting the best job for you.
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Are you seriously suggesting that after finishing a residency in a medical specialty it's easy to just switch specialties?

If you don't know that you will love podiatry throughout, you shouldn't be going through it to begin with imho.
 
Okay, take the stick out of your butt dude and read..

I was suggesting before you match. Most medical students decide something different than what they thought when they started out. You can choose gas, surgery, what ever as long as you match while in school. Even after you are done with a residency, you can still get another resdency. Hence why we have double board certifcations. Kidsfeet, keep your comments regarding me and my decisions to yourself! I will choose and do whatever path I please and could give two monkey di***s what you feel.
 
RATM2010 said:
more like 4+5+1 =10 medical with the option to change at any point and do another field like gas/rad (3 yr residency just like podiatry) or 7 of podiatry and you must now love a specialty within f/a. 3 yrs of residency is nothing compared to getting the best job for you.
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Just to reiterate what YOU wrote.

You do realize that not every medical student gets the residency they really want. It's the reason I didn't go into allopathic medicine tbh. My brother never considered being an anesthesiologist, but he didn't match with his first EIGHT choices. Going back after the fact is virtually unheard of, and reapplying for the match can be a very frustrating endeavor. I have heard of people doing this after their internship year, but after that, it gets harder and harder to just switch as you suggest. It is possible, but very unlikely.

This has nothing to do with my commenting on your personal beliefs. I think that all perspectives need to be explored. I don't care what you do, who you are, or the choices you make. This is a public forum, and I felt compelled to comment on what you said as I think you are incorrect in your information. That's all. It's not personal, so how about you don't attack me next time.
 
RATM2010 said:
Okay, take the stick out of your butt dude and read..

I was suggesting before you match. Most medical students decide something different than what they thought when they started out. You can choose gas, surgery, what ever as long as you match while in school. Even after you are done with a residency, you can still get another resdency. Hence why we have double board certifcations. Kidsfeet, keep your comments regarding me and my decisions to yourself! I will choose and do whatever path I please and could give two monkey di***s what you feel.
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I am shocked at how frequently podiatrists are disrespected on this forum, podiatrists who take time out of their busy schedules to help pre-pods/pod students by posting here. I wonder if you would say this to Kidsfeet if you met him in person, knowing how small our community is and how important networking is.
 
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I am shocked at how frequently podiatrists are disrespected on this forum, podiatrists who take time out of their busy schedules to help pre-pods/pod students by posting here. I wonder if you would say this to Kidsfeet if you met him in person, knowing how small our community is and how important networking is.
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I'm here to help. Those that appreciate it are the ones that I do it for. Those that don't...oh well. They'll learn. Even if it's the hard way.

Of course s/he wouldn't. This person has no idea who I am, or if s/he ever met me. The Internet persona we chose sometimes has little correlation with who we really are most of the time. I'm a hard ass. But I've been around a good bit, met a lot of people and am politically active. I also work my tail off to provide for my family. I make no apologies for any of that. What you see with me is what you get. Retorts like the one provided make me laugh more than anything else. Ah to be young again!!
 
arez10 said:
I am shocked at how frequently podiatrists are disrespected on this forum, podiatrists who take time out of their busy schedules to help pre-pods/pod students by posting here. I wonder if you would say this to Kidsfeet if you met him in person, knowing how small our community is and how important networking is.
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RATM2010 said:
Okay, take the stick out of your butt dude and read..

I was suggesting before you match. Most medical students decide something different than what they thought when they started out. You can choose gas, surgery, what ever as long as you match while in school. Even after you are done with a residency, you can still get another resdency. Hence why we have double board certifcations. Kidsfeet, keep your comments regarding me and my decisions to yourself! I will choose and do whatever path I please and could give two monkey di***s what you feel.
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Contrast this reply to those of the OP's and see why the OP makes such a good impression.
 
RATM2010 said:
Okay, take the stick out of your butt dude and read..

I was suggesting before you match. Most medical students decide something different than what they thought when they started out. You can choose gas, surgery, what ever as long as you match while in school. Even after you are done with a residency, you can still get another resdency. Hence why we have double board certifcations. Kidsfeet, keep your comments regarding me and my decisions to yourself! I will choose and do whatever path I please and could give two monkey di***s what you feel.
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No you cannot. Everyone has limited medicare funding. I believe the limit is 7 years of residency...correct me if I'm wrong. No program director will let you take a residency spot if you don't come with funding.(~$100,000/resident/yr).

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janV88 said:
No you cannot. Everyone has limited medicare funding. I believe the limit is 7 years of residency...correct me if I'm wrong. No program director will let you take a residency spot if you don't come with funding.(~$100,000/resident/yr).

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There are PGY-9 Neurosurg. residents.

I also know a plastic surgeon that went back and did his surgery training after completing his IM residency.
 
zane870 said:
There are PGY-9 Neurosurg. residents.

I also know a plastic surgeon that went back and did his surgery training after completing his IM residency.
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I did some searching and it's a little more complicated than what I had originally thought.

Basically there is a limit to how much funding. A few MD's who went back and did a 2nd residency are having problems. It's not that you DON'T get any funding at all, you just get less. Depending on the program, this MAY be a problem. There's a lot of discussion about this in the Gen Residency Forum but basically it CAN be difficult to do a 2nd residency.

Here's a link in case people are interested: http://206.82.221.137/showthread.php?p=9458227

Here is a more relevant thread: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=593791
 
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janV88 said:
No you cannot. Everyone has limited medicare funding. I believe the limit is 7 years of residency...correct me if I'm wrong. No program director will let you take a residency spot if you don't come with funding.(~$100,000/resident/yr).

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Yes you can. I have a attending at my hospital now currently in pathology and has completed a ER residency. Get your facts straight please JanV88.

PS: Sorry, I did not read your previous post. It is rare and difficult,but not impossible.
 
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I am shocked at how frequently podiatrists are disrespected on this forum, podiatrists who take time out of their busy schedules to help pre-pods/pod students by posting here. I wonder if you would say this to Kidsfeet if you met him in person, knowing how small our community is and how important networking is.
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Arez10, did you not read his reply. He was not helping. He was being judgental about me and my career goal, non of which I asked his opinion on. That post came off as arrogant and disrespectful. I could give a whoot about his job title. Man to man means disrespect gets disrespect. Arez10,do you bow down and kiss the feet of very attending you pass. i think not. I have no problem with kidsfeet and actually agree with most things he has to say except his last post about me.

PS: I would say anything i post on here directly to anyone's face. i mean that.
 
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Yes you can. I have a attending at my hospital now currently in pathology and has completed a ER residency. Get your facts straight please JanV88.

PS: Sorry, I did not read your previous post. It is rare and difficult,but not impossible.
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Agreed. That's exactly what I was getting at. It's not as easy as just deciding to pursue a 2nd residency of your choice.
 
RATM2010 said:
Arez10, did you not read his reply. He was not helping. He was being judgental about me and my career goal, non of which I asked his opinion on. That post came off as arrogant and disrespectful. I could give a whoot about his job title. Man to man means disrespect gets disrespect. Arez10,do you bow down and kiss the feet of very attending you pass. i think not. I have no problem with kidsfeet and actually agree with most things he has to say except his last post about me.

PS: I would say anything i post on here directly to anyone's face. i mean that.
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Not to belabor the point, but I wasn't the only one that had issues with your reply to my post. Now you are taking a shot at Arez10. If you truly would make that comment to someone's face, you have much to learn. Those that speak out that way on rotations and during externships tend to be the one's who then blame "the system" when things don't work out for them in my experience. I'm not suggesting that this will happen to you, or that I'm describing you at all, but you would be surprised how small our community really is. If you are really from where you say you are from, may I suggest the utmost caution with how you express yourself if you return there. It's a small place and people there love the new guy.
 
RATM2010 said:
Arez10, did you not read his reply. He was not helping. He was being judgental about me and my career goal, non of which I asked his opinion on. That post came off as arrogant and disrespectful. I could give a whoot about his job title. Man to man means disrespect gets disrespect. Arez10,do you bow down and kiss the feet of very attending you pass. i think not. I have no problem with kidsfeet and actually agree with most things he has to say except his last post about me.

PS: I would say anything i post on here directly to anyone's face. i mean that.
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Sorry, I've read and re-read the posts in question, and disagree. Even IF the post was PERCEIVED as arrogant and disrespectful, there are more diplomatic ways to handle the situation, especially at this time in your training.

As a word of advice, you'd better drop the macho/mano vs. mano thing. If you pull that stuff as a resident or even an attending, you will experience significant road blocks in your career.

There's no problem with disagreeing. However, there are ways to communicate that are acceptable when you're a professional and ways that can cause significant harm to your career and reputation. So I'd re-think the whole process in the future before you fly off the handle, I've seen it ruin a LOT of potentially promising careers.
 
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