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I have worked now for about 3 years, and I am more ready than ever to jump back in to school. I hope to be enrolled for Spring 2021 semester.Hello there, (sorry in advance for the lengthy post!)
I am a 23 year old female , and I am seriously considering (at least attempting to) pursue Medicine (optimally MD).
Just so you get an idea of my background, in High School I barely studied, skipped a lot of class, and managed to still receive a diploma as I have a very good memory.
After High School I took a gap year (2015/16) overseas where I accumulated 27 credits (3.5 GPA) in religious studies from a program which is NCCRS accredited.
Then, once I returned from abroad I decided to go to a joint accelerated BSN/RN program. I chose this program on a whim, because of the joint aspect- the first year of the program were all the general ed and the pre-reqs for Nursing, which were done simultaneously to make it slightly accelerated.
For the general ed credits, The program had their own small college courses where I completed 37 credits with a 3.21 GPA. The Nursing the pre-nursing, were done in Georgian Court University in a separate cohort. There I took:
Statistics (C+), A and P I (B+) and II (B), Chem 1 for health sciences (c-), English I (A) and II (B+), Intro to Psych (D), Economics (A) and Intro to Nursing (c-)
Totalling in 30 credits with a 2.59 GPA
While I was in the program, I had an extremely difficult time focusing and bombed the whole second semester, and was diagnosed with ADHD. This wasn't much of a surprise as i had been tested multiple times as a kid, but the results were always borderline. I always had trouble focusing but it was mainly attributed to being lazy or playful, as I compensated with my memory. At this point though, I had actually put in effort to focus and still wasn't able to do so.
So, I went home for the summer (2017) because I was held back and needed to retake Chem and intro to Nursing in order to progress in the program.
Thus I got a summer intern job in a non for profit social service agency, which was largely focused around health related needs, elderly, immigrants and low income families. I thoroughly enjoyed my summer there and accepted a job there as the Office Administrator (while having a plethora of other responsibilities) instead of returning to my BSN RN program. I was very exposed to the Medical world and found myself getting more and more passionate about the medical world and helping people.
In addition, I attempted to finish my bachelors as a BS, but found a MOST schools didn't recognize the Joint part of the Nursing program, or didn't accept ones I had taken overseas as a valid accreditation (was either or with a lot of places.)
*I needed to test my ADHD medication so I took 2 online courses with Coopersmith Career Consulting, earning 6 credits for Intro to Psych and Human Growth and development.(both As with 4.0 gpa)*
During my employment I also acted as a volunteer in my own time, visiting elderly, delivering food to shut ins and hospitals, and taking people to medical appointments (sometimes accompanying them to speak to the doctor.) I also had various other volunteer jobs with other organizations in my spare time.
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I have worked now for about 3 years, and I am more ready than ever to jump back in to school. I hope to be enrolled for Spring 2021 semester.
Ideally, I would love to aim for NYU Grossman otherwise any US mid to upper tier schools in NY area. I am willing to do whatever it takes to get there.
Am i being unrealistic (you can be honest)?
1. Even if I am, what would you recommend I do to try to get as close to my goal as I can?
2. Being that I was Diagnosed with ADHD so late in the game, if I prove a strong upward trend now, will that help me at all (NYU)?
What do I do about my pre-existing credits (aside from the Georgian Court ones)-
3. If my religious study from abroad (more legit than the Gen ed) or Gen ed credits seem to be invalid in many Institutions, does that mean that they will not affect my overall GPA? ( should I not even bother trying to use them)
4. OR Should I pursue a new major (BIo or wtvr) and use my pre-existing credits (as likely only either/or may work) as electives?
5. OR Should I attempt to use all my sketchy credits (as they are not sciences) to complete my undergrad, and then pursue a post-bacc or SMP?
Given the above:
6. When selecting a pre-med program, what should I look out for in a program (or whichever type of program you recommend)?
a *ADHD programs?
b *returning after a while, don't want to screw up my GPA more while adjusting.*
7. Do my volunteering hours for the social service agency I worked for act as volunteer hours and what other extra curriculars, experience etc. should I consider?
8. When should I start prepping for MCAT, what should my timeline look like- given that I did not take the pre-reqs yet?
*i did start going over Chem basics on my own, just to prime myself for school*
In conclusion: With taking everything addressed here in to account, what do you recommend I do, to reinvent myself as a competitive student for US Med schools?
I apologize for such a lengthy post. A lot of my questions are contradict each other, to highlight the aspects I am most confused about.
If my situation is a bit too complicated, can you point me in the direction of someone that can advise me?
I hope you can help.
Thank you!
P.s. The SDR is so amazing! I got so many answers to so many questions I had on here, and found loads of helpful advice!
Ideally, I would love to aim for NYU Grossman otherwise any US mid to upper tier schools in NY area. I am willing to do whatever it takes to get there.
A lot to unpack there. But first off, your goal is to eventually get into A medical, and not focus on one of the most competitive schools in the world.
Am i being unrealistic (you can be honest)?
1. Even if I am, what would you recommend I do to try to get as close to my goal as I can?
I'm not an expert in what credits are accepted and what aren't, but on the surface, but I do know what most schools do not accept foreign credits. Hence, I suspect that you're going to have to start from near scratch. Nursing classes aren't taken that seriously by Adcoms either, in my take.
Wise @lord999 and @Mr.Smile12 can you comment?
2. Being that I was Diagnosed with ADHD so late in the game, if I prove a strong upward trend now, will that help me at all (NYU)?
Forget about NYU. That's off the table unless you're a 3,9+/517+ MCAT score candidate.
Med schools will not give you slack for your ADHD. However, there are plenty that reward reinvention.
What do I do about my pre-existing credits (aside from the Georgian Court ones)-
3. If my religious study from abroad (more legit than the Gen ed) or Gen ed credits seem to be invalid in many Institutions, does that mean that they will not affect my overall GPA? ( should I not even bother trying to use them)
This seems to be the case
4. OR Should I pursue a new major (BIo or wtvr) and use my pre-existing credits (as likely only either/or may work) as electives?
This also seems to be the case.
5. OR Should I attempt to use all my sketchy credits (as they are not sciences) to complete my undergrad, and then pursue a post-bacc or SMP?
This seems to be the best path, provided whatever credits you have are valid.
Given the above:
6. When selecting a pre-med program, what should I look out for in a program (or whichever type of program you recommend)?
One that has good advising and a track record of sending their graduates to medical school.
a *ADHD programs?
b *returning after a while, don't want to screw up my GPA more while adjusting.*
Is your ADHD under control? If not, you nee dot get it so, and also seek out accommodations.
7. Do my volunteering hours for the social service agency I worked for act as volunteer hours and what other extra curriculars, experience etc. should I consider?
yes, very much so.
You need clinical exposure (employment or volunteering). Your nursing training may or may not count. (at least 150 hrs)
You need clinician shadowing (wait until the COVID crisis is over; you're in a marathon now, not a sprint. Get about 50 hrs
You need > 150 hours of nonclinical volunteering. This seems to have been checked off.
Research is good to have, but not required, especially as a non-trad student.
8. When should I start prepping for MCAT, what should my timeline look like- given that I did not take the pre-reqs yet?
*i did start going over Chem basics on my own, just to prime myself for school*
When you get all the MCAT pre-reqs out of the way. And do NOT take the exam until you are 100% ready for it.
In conclusion: With taking everything addressed here in to account, what do you recommend I do, to reinvent myself as a competitive student for US Med schools?
You need to have the academic bonafides to demonstrate that you can handle the rigors of a med school curriculum.
Read this:
Med School Rx: Getting In, Getting Through, and Getting On with Doctoring Original Edition by Walter Hartwig
ISBN-13: 978-1607140627
ISBN-10: 1607140624