When do groups start to fill

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I'm decided on private practice. Now I see all my fellow co-residents starting to interview for fellowships etc, and I'm wondering when is a reasonable time to start applying for jobs. When do groups plan out their new openings? Does it coincide with residency cycles? In a dream world, I would have something lined up like my fellowship bound co-residents come next final year of residency (can't believe it's really happening..) I ask because I shot my CV to a couple recruiters, and it's been silent ever since.
 
Not a whole lot of experience here, but my target area has already done their initial wave of hiring for summer 2018. I signed my contract almost a month ago. That said, there are 3rd years where I'm finishing my residency who still haven't figured out where they're working.

Figure out where you want to go and cold call groups to get a better idea.
 
If you know where you wanna go start contacting groups. I know a couple groups hiring for 2018 already
 
Anytime between now (early) and December (late) for fall 2018.

We needed someone "last minute" for summer 2017, and January was too late to get a resident, in our collective opinion.


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I do have a region I'd like to target. What's the best way to find the groups in a region and contact info?
 
I do have a region I'd like to target. What's the best way to find the groups in a region and contact info?
If you don't have any contacts in the area, then cold calling different hospitals is the way to go. I basically googled the specific hospital plus anesthesia, and called whatever phone numbers I found. Sometimes I was lucky and got someone in the anesthesia dept to talk to right away. Other times, the person answering the phone was of no help.
 
Ask for the main OR front desk or presurgical holding area. Then ask to speak with any anesthesiologist that might be hanging around. Going through HR doesn't get you to an anesthesiologist.


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Thank you all, will do. If any of you helpful folks are in the Great Lakes region by chance, I appreciate any other thoughts too 🙂
 
You should reach out to your programs alumni network too. This is the best/highest yield option.

Not to be understated and a potential advantage for going with a larger program (which has its disadvantages), of course. Several from my program worked the alumni angle successfully. Often it's regional, of course, but we have pockets all over the country (in sorta random spots honestly) that people have used.
 
My group starts planning about a year out, interviews 6-9 months out, finalizes the hiring needs and makes offers 5-6 months out, unless you're experienced or are a real superstar. They can get an offer a year or more out if they want.
For the most part our hiring lines up with fellowship training. People usually retire or plan to leave in July to keep their share of the annual bonus they earned the previous year. Obviously it doesn't always work out that way.


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There is no real rhyme or reason to it most of the time, at least not enough to have some global "pattern" of hiring timelines. Think about it: groups' need to hire can be driven by any number of things (retirement, illness, death, expansion of practice, change in "lifestyle needs", etc). Most of these things do not happen on any sort of repeatable or predictable schedule. Obviously, if there is an expected hiring need with enough notice, groups take into account how early they have to start recruiting to get "cream of the crop" residents. In my neck of the woods, that's usually about 12-18 months out (Jan-July of CA-2 year). Our group, for example, tends to interview people whenever we get interest from an applicant, regardless of whether we anticipate an actual need. Stuff happens, and it's always good to have a few good applicants in the can if you lose somebody suddenly or decide to take on a new clinical site. Occasionally we interview someone who is so good, that we hire them in the absence of actual need (though this is a pretty rare situation, especially for smaller groups because extra bodies on the payroll when you don't "need" them lowers everybody's bottom line).

My advice for job hunting is to start in early-to-mid CA-2 year, whether you plan on a fellowship or not. You may find a killer job that needs you right after you graduate and decide to forego fellowship. It's all about timing, and timing can be about dumb luck sometimes.
 
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